M
McCorkindale
IF, IF the WLM or Mail 2011 is so great- why do people hate itRoy Smith said:
so much ?
so much ?
R
relic
We're all a bunch of haters.McCorkindale said:IF, IF the WLM or Mail 2011 is so great- why do people hate it
so much ?
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Nil
I'm not aware that "people hate it so much", at least not until thisIF, IF the WLM or Mail 2011 is so great- why do people hate it
so much ?
latest broken version was released.
R
Roy Smith
Why don't you try the new version of WLM and then tell me why it'sIF, IF the WLM or Mail 2011 is so great- why do people hate it
so much ?
disliked so much. But that wasn't what I was talking about. I was
referring to Windows Mail which came with Vista.
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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.5
Friday, October 22, 2010 5:39:31 PM
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Valorie *~
Superior how? What's to learn? It's fine if you have one email address andFrank said:Big mistake! WLM is far superior to WM. Maybe you just didn't bother
learning how to use it.
one or two NSPs. If you have more it's a Royale PIA. The bells and
whistles don't interest me.
Anyone not happy with WLM can keep WM if they like it. Not everyone gives aA quick
Not really. You'll see the first complaint posted and re-posted numerous
times.
We did so I loved WM from my
Good for you.
hoot about all the stuff that comes with WLM.
V
Valorie *~
Install it under Programs (x86) or get the dll for 64-bit if your W-7 is 64Sunlight said:"Valorie *~" wrote in message
You can also move WindowsMail to W-7 and remove WindowsLiveMail. A quick
Google will show that many people hate WLM. We did so I loved WM from my
Vista PC to my W-7 PC.
..............
I have tried to install Windows Mail to Win-7 but in vane.
bit. Then install it under regular programs. It works fine either place.
32-bit under Programs (x86) or under regular programs if you add the proper
64-bit dll.
I agree. It really stinks. They ruined a good email/Usenet client. I hatedWLM 2011 is a complete disaster !!! How could Microsoft
did that to its customers? Shame... disgusting...
it and will not use it.
S
Sunny
I have 4 email addresses in WLM, no problems using any of them.Valorie *~ said:Superior how? What's to learn? It's fine if you have one email address
and one or two NSPs. If you have more it's a Royale PIA. The bells and
whistles don't interest me.
(And I don't use any of the "bells and whistles".)
L
Lee Waun
Email works fine. It is a failure as a newsreader.Sunny said:I have 4 email addresses in WLM, no problems using any of them.
(And I don't use any of the "bells and whistles".)
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Nil
Does the quote demarkation problem exist for email, or just in theEmail works fine. It is a failure as a newsreader.
newsreader part of the program? I can't check for myself because I
uninstalled WLM 2011.
S
skeeter
just nntp.Does the quote demarkation problem exist for email, or just in the
newsreader part of the program? I can't check for myself because I
uninstalled WLM 2011.
L
Lee Waun
I was very happy with WLM 2009. Thought it was great. So I thought thatNil said:I'm not aware that "people hate it so much", at least not until this
latest broken version was released.
2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a real mistake to install
so yes I do hate 2011.
D
Don
"Lee Waun" wrote in message
2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a real mistake to install
so yes I do hate 2011.
I am with you on that one, I installed this morning and so far I am not too
happy with it.
Don
I was very happy with WLM 2009. Thought it was great. So I thought thatNil said:I'm not aware that "people hate it so much", at least not until this
latest broken version was released.
2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a real mistake to install
so yes I do hate 2011.
I am with you on that one, I installed this morning and so far I am not too
happy with it.
Don
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Worn Out Retread
"Don" wrote in message
"Lee Waun" wrote in message
2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a real mistake to install
so yes I do hate 2011.
I am with you on that one, I installed this morning and so far I am not too
happy with it.
They have totally messed up the news reader. One can't sort properly,
threads don't open automatically when the first message is opened.
The sorting is so bad that it should be labeled "shuffle" instead.
Just found another thing, a signature can't be added when replying.
In short, the previous version had some annoyances which this version turned
into complete bugs and added a few more.
"Lee Waun" wrote in message
I was very happy with WLM 2009. Thought it was great. So I thought thatNil said:I'm not aware that "people hate it so much", at least not until this
latest broken version was released.
2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a real mistake to install
so yes I do hate 2011.
I am with you on that one, I installed this morning and so far I am not too
happy with it.
They have totally messed up the news reader. One can't sort properly,
threads don't open automatically when the first message is opened.
The sorting is so bad that it should be labeled "shuffle" instead.
Just found another thing, a signature can't be added when replying.
In short, the previous version had some annoyances which this version turned
into complete bugs and added a few more.
N
Nil
And the worst thing about it is that it doesn't deal with quotedI was very happy with WLM 2009. Thought it was great. So I
thought that 2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a
real mistake to install so yes I do hate 2011.
I am with you on that one, I installed this morning and so far I
am not too happy with it.
They have totally messed up the news reader. One can't sort
properly, threads don't open automatically when the first message
is opened.
The sorting is so bad that it should be labeled "shuffle" instead.
Just found another thing, a signature can't be added when
replying.
In short, the previous version had some annoyances which this
version turned into complete bugs and added a few more.
material at all. Look above - you have 4 people's comments that all run
together with no indication about who said what. Did "Don" say
everything above? Is that acceptable to you? I sure as hell wouldn't
want my words attributed to someone else.
Please dump WLM 2011. It's even worse for your readers than it is for
you. It should not be used on Usenet.
R
R. C. White
?Hi, Retread.
Many of the other comments and complaints in this thread are valid, but this
one is not:
post. Some prior versions had that problem, and 2011 still has trouble with
line-feeds in Sigs, but it otherwise handles Sigs pretty well. It even let
me add the Signature icon, with drop-down menu to select from several Sigs,
to my QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) for this Compose window.
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta
"Worn Out Retread" wrote in message
"Don" wrote in message
"Lee Waun" wrote in message
2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a real mistake to install
so yes I do hate 2011.
I am with you on that one, I installed this morning and so far I am not too
happy with it.
They have totally messed up the news reader. One can't sort properly,
threads don't open automatically when the first message is opened.
The sorting is so bad that it should be labeled "shuffle" instead.
Just found another thing, a signature can't be added when replying.
In short, the previous version had some annoyances which this version turned
into complete bugs and added a few more.
Many of the other comments and complaints in this thread are valid, but this
one is not:
WLM 2011 inserts Sigs in Replies just fine - look at the bottom of thisJust found another thing, a signature can't be added when replying.
post. Some prior versions had that problem, and 2011 still has trouble with
line-feeds in Sigs, but it otherwise handles Sigs pretty well. It even let
me add the Signature icon, with drop-down menu to select from several Sigs,
to my QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) for this Compose window.
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta
"Worn Out Retread" wrote in message
"Don" wrote in message
"Lee Waun" wrote in message
I was very happy with WLM 2009. Thought it was great. So I thought thatNil said:I'm not aware that "people hate it so much", at least not until this
latest broken version was released.
2011 would be good too. However it is broken and a real mistake to install
so yes I do hate 2011.
I am with you on that one, I installed this morning and so far I am not too
happy with it.
They have totally messed up the news reader. One can't sort properly,
threads don't open automatically when the first message is opened.
The sorting is so bad that it should be labeled "shuffle" instead.
Just found another thing, a signature can't be added when replying.
In short, the previous version had some annoyances which this version turned
into complete bugs and added a few more.
R
R. C. White
?Hi, Skeeter - and Nil.
Sorry, but there's no ">" indicator for quotes in email Replies, either.
:>(
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta
"skeeter" wrote in message
Sorry, but there's no ">" indicator for quotes in email Replies, either.
:>(
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta
"skeeter" wrote in message
just nntp.Does the quote demarkation problem exist for email, or just in the
newsreader part of the program? I can't check for myself because I
uninstalled WLM 2011.
C
Char Jackson
Unless you're doing some manual manipulation, it appears to be?Hi, Retread.
Many of the other comments and complaints in this thread are valid, but this
one is not:
WLM 2011 inserts Sigs in Replies just fine - look at the bottom of this
post. Some prior versions had that problem, and 2011 still has trouble with
line-feeds in Sigs, but it otherwise handles Sigs pretty well. It even let
me add the Signature icon, with drop-down menu to select from several Sigs,
to my QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) for this Compose window.
RC
inserting the sig at the top of the post rather than the bottom where
it belongs, so I don't think I would say it does a fine job of that.
Above, you even say, "look at the bottom of this post", but your sig
didn't end up at the bottom of the post. It ended up at the bottom of
your contribution, but since you top posted, the rest of the post
falls below your sig. That's not proper client behavior.
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Nil
Yes, it adds sigs, but it's NOT at all fine. It seems to have includedWLM 2011 inserts Sigs in Replies just fine - look at the bottom of
this post.
all the previously quoted material as part of the sig... which means it
therefore gets eliminated from any subsequent follow-ups.
Geez, this program shows itself to be more and more broken the more I
look at it.
R
R. C. White
?Hi, Char.
The answer is much simpler - and more embarrassing - than that. I simply
forgot to click the Sig icon before clicking Send.
And I almost always top-post. And I try to stay out of top/bottom post
arguments.
Let's try it on this one...
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta
"Char Jackson" wrote in message
inserting the sig at the top of the post rather than the bottom where
it belongs, so I don't think I would say it does a fine job of that.
Above, you even say, "look at the bottom of this post", but your sig
didn't end up at the bottom of the post. It ended up at the bottom of
your contribution, but since you top posted, the rest of the post
falls below your sig. That's not proper client behavior.
The answer is much simpler - and more embarrassing - than that. I simply
forgot to click the Sig icon before clicking Send.
And I almost always top-post. And I try to stay out of top/bottom post
arguments.
Let's try it on this one...
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta
"Char Jackson" wrote in message
Unless you're doing some manual manipulation, it appears to be?Hi, Retread.
Many of the other comments and complaints in this thread are valid, but
this
one is not:
WLM 2011 inserts Sigs in Replies just fine - look at the bottom of this
post. Some prior versions had that problem, and 2011 still has trouble
with
line-feeds in Sigs, but it otherwise handles Sigs pretty well. It even let
me add the Signature icon, with drop-down menu to select from several Sigs,
to my QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) for this Compose window.
RC
inserting the sig at the top of the post rather than the bottom where
it belongs, so I don't think I would say it does a fine job of that.
Above, you even say, "look at the bottom of this post", but your sig
didn't end up at the bottom of the post. It ended up at the bottom of
your contribution, but since you top posted, the rest of the post
falls below your sig. That's not proper client behavior.
J
Jack
If you'd simply configure it to bottom post, it would get the sig right.R. C. White said:?Hi, Char.
The answer is much simpler - and more embarrassing - than that. I simply
forgot to click the Sig icon before clicking Send.
And I almost always top-post. And I try to stay out of top/bottom post
arguments.
Let's try it on this one...
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 beta
"Char Jackson" wrote in message
Unless you're doing some manual manipulation, it appears to be
inserting the sig at the top of the post rather than the bottom where
it belongs, so I don't think I would say it does a fine job of that.
Above, you even say, "look at the bottom of this post", but your sig
didn't end up at the bottom of the post. It ended up at the bottom of
your contribution, but since you top posted, the rest of the post
falls below your sig. That's not proper client behavior.
Top-posting was only 'acceptable' in the microsoft.public groups. Now that
they have been abandoned, it's time to learn correct netiquette and bottom
post.
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