WLM 2011 Bundled on new Laptop


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Lee Waun

I just brought home a new HP Laptop with win7 64 bit preinstalled on it.
The hardware is pretty impressive however it had WLM 2011 bundled on it
which I agree has the worst newsreader there is on it.
But this didn't worry me as I planned to just uninstall it and then
install WLM 2009 which I do really like.

So I uninstalled WLM 2011 and then went to install the 2009 version and
it won't install. It said I have a newer version so the older version
won't install.

This is really maddening. However I decided to try Thunderbird out and
for the first time ever I have it running well enough I plan to keep it
on this machine. Perhaps if I get good enough with this program I'll
take WLM off my destop machine too.
 
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Tavares

Think the best newsreader is WLM 2011, a little bit slower then Outlook
Express, you have to get used to it, but it's very easy to use. The negative
points are that 2011 will be a bad year for the americans...

"Lee Waun" escreveu na mensagem
I just brought home a new HP Laptop with win7 64 bit preinstalled on it.
The hardware is pretty impressive however it had WLM 2011 bundled on it
which I agree has the worst newsreader there is on it.
But this didn't worry me as I planned to just uninstall it and then
install WLM 2009 which I do really like.

So I uninstalled WLM 2011 and then went to install the 2009 version and
it won't install. It said I have a newer version so the older version
won't install.

This is really maddening. However I decided to try Thunderbird out and
for the first time ever I have it running well enough I plan to keep it
on this machine. Perhaps if I get good enough with this program I'll
take WLM off my destop machine too.
 
D

Drew

I just brought home a new HP Laptop with win7 64 bit preinstalled on it.
The hardware is pretty impressive however it had WLM 2011 bundled on it
which I agree has the worst newsreader there is on it.
But this didn't worry me as I planned to just uninstall it and then
install WLM 2009 which I do really like.

So I uninstalled WLM 2011 and then went to install the 2009 version and
it won't install. It said I have a newer version so the older version
won't install.

This is really maddening. However I decided to try Thunderbird out and
for the first time ever I have it running well enough I plan to keep it
on this machine. Perhaps if I get good enough with this program I'll
take WLM off my destop machine too.
I used to use Wlm 2009 but did not like version 2011.I refused to be
forced to update my other live features to 2011 as I liked what I had.
Unfortunately they do not allow you to "mix and match". It was at that
point that I switched to Thunderbird and have gotten used to it fairly
easily. There are many features that I prefer to wlm but extremely minor
details of wlm 09 that I miss. I will stay with Tbird until I find
something better in my opinion. Besides it is free and does what is needed.
 
C

Char Jackson

Think the best newsreader is WLM 2011, a little bit slower then Outlook
Express, you have to get used to it, but it's very easy to use.
I don't think you'll get much agreement here. The general consensus
around here is that WLM 2011 (v15) is the worst, not the best.
 
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Lee Waun

I don't think you'll get much agreement here. The general consensus
around here is that WLM 2011 (v15) is the worst, not the best.
I wrote I think WLM 2011has the worst newsreader. Learn to read what
posters write.
 
T

Tavares

I have nothing to complain about WLM 2011, it's just my opinion, don't want
to force you to change anything, WLM 2011 (v.15) it's perfect, if you like
thunderbird or other it's ok for me.

"Char Jackson" escreveu na mensagem

Think the best newsreader is WLM 2011, a little bit slower then Outlook
Express, you have to get used to it, but it's very easy to use.
I don't think you'll get much agreement here. The general consensus
around here is that WLM 2011 (v15) is the worst, not the best.
 
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Thip

Lee Waun said:
I just brought home a new HP Laptop with win7 64 bit preinstalled on it.
The hardware is pretty impressive however it had WLM 2011 bundled on it
which I agree has the worst newsreader there is on it.
But this didn't worry me as I planned to just uninstall it and then
install WLM 2009 which I do really like.

So I uninstalled WLM 2011 and then went to install the 2009 version and it
won't install. It said I have a newer version so the older version won't
install.

This is really maddening. However I decided to try Thunderbird out and for
the first time ever I have it running well enough I plan to keep it on
this machine. Perhaps if I get good enough with this program I'll take WLM
off my destop machine too.
Same thing here. Just Google how to peel 2011 off (it comes with the whole
bundle, Messenger, etc.), then install 2009. It's not as hard as they make
it seem.
 
J

James Silverton

I wrote I think WLM 2011has the worst newsreader. Learn to read what
posters write.
I bought a new machine this year with Office Professional and it took me
only one week to decide to get Thunderbird. WLM is a misbegotten travesty.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not* (e-mail address removed)
 
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Lee Waun

I bought a new machine this year with Office Professional and it took
me only one week to decide to get Thunderbird. WLM is a misbegotten
travesty.
Yup they must have purposely broke the newsreader to try to get people
to abandon the groups. Is TB got a good future ahead of it?
 
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Lee Waun

Same thing here. Just Google how to peel 2011 off (it comes with the
whole bundle, Messenger, etc.), then install 2009. It's not as hard
as they make it seem.
I did google that and even did these registry key things they said and
nothing worked. I decided to just switch before I damaged the OS.

I also don't like that ribbon they put on the 2011 version. If 2009 is
not available which it isn't on this machine unless I reformat the HD
and install a brand new OEM copy of win7 I have to just learn this new
program which is getting better the more I use it. For now I will just
learn this TB instead.
 
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Char Jackson

I wrote I think WLM 2011has the worst newsreader.
Yes, I know you did, and I agree with you, but I was responding to
(and quoting!) Tavares, not you. How did you miss that?
Learn to read what posters write.
Ironic advice. :)
 
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Lee Waun

Yes, I know you did, and I agree with you, but I was responding to
(and quoting!) Tavares, not you. How did you miss that?

Ironic advice. :)
OKAY I STAND CORRECTED. SORRY!!!
 
K

Ken Blake

Think the best newsreader is WLM 2011, a little bit slower then Outlook
Express, you have to get used to it, but it's very easy to use.

Each to his own, of course, but almost everyone here will disagree
with you.

*You* may find it easy to use, but we all find that reading posts of
people who use it extremely difficult because Windows Live Mail 2011
can not correctly quote.

In fact, it's so bad that many of us will killfile people who use it.
 
W

...winston

"Lee Waun" wrote in message I also don't like that ribbon they put on the 2011 version. If 2009 is
not available which it isn't on this machine unless I reformat the HD
and install a brand new OEM copy of win7 I have to just learn this new
program which is getting better the more I use it. For now I will just
learn this TB instead.

If WLM 2011 is removed properly, WLM 2009 will install on Win7 - no need to
'reformat the HD and install a brand new OEM copy of win7'.

Links to all available versions of WLM 11 and 09 full and web installers
(all links are on the Microsoft servers, not third party hosting sites)

2011:
Direct download to Microsoft server for the installer executable file
Full Version Installer – English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe
Web Version Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe
- Note: Direct download links above are for the English language installer.
For a different country replace the ‘en’ with the local language code.

Microsoft Windows Live Web Site (web version installer)
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials
Microsoft Windows Live Worldwide Downloads(web version installer)
http://explore.live.com/worldwide-downloads
Microsoft Download Center(web version installer)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=59fbc955-a9cc-4fb1-84dc-db88e9882ed3


2009:
Direct download to Microsoft server for the installer executable file
Full Version Installer English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-all.exe
Web Version Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-web.exe
Note: Direct download links above are for the English language installer.
For a different country replace the ‘en’ with the local language code.

Microsoft Windows Live Web Site links(web version installer)
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-xp
Microsoft Download Center(web version installer)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=00ed0c6b-152f-49eb-88c8-278267802f57


All versions permit the user to uncheck applications from being installed
(when not accepting the default, i.e. choose the custom option)
 
N

Nil

It's impossible to distinguish your words from Lee Waun's, and your
signature is improperly delineated.

WLM 2011 is possibly the worst newsreader ever created. Certainly the
worst one that Microsoft has ever produced.
 
P

Paul

Tavares said:
I have nothing to complain about WLM 2011, it's just my opinion, don't
want to force you to change anything, WLM 2011 (v.15) it's perfect, if
you like thunderbird or other it's ok for me.
Other posters don't have much in the way of requirements. Lots and lots
of different news readers are used here, with no comment from any other
respondent.

However, when someone uses WLM 2011, and it screws up the quoting, that's
when the complaints begin to fly.

So sure, you're free to use whatever newsreader you want... as long
as it doesn't spoil the experience for others, or make extra work for
them (correcting the quoting, fixing a signature blocking some text etc).

If WLM 2011 was just a little more conformant with what other newsreaders
can do, we wouldn't have a word to say about it. V.15 is the worst of the
lot, and one previous version worked a little better than the current one
does.

Paul
 
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Thip

Lee Waun said:
I did google that and even did these registry key things they said and
nothing worked. I decided to just switch before I damaged the OS.

I also don't like that ribbon they put on the 2011 version. If 2009 is not
available which it isn't on this machine unless I reformat the HD and
install a brand new OEM copy of win7 I have to just learn this new program
which is getting better the more I use it. For now I will just learn this
TB instead.
No! Not the registry! It has to do with uninstalling via Programs and
Features. Highlight WLM and go to "Uninstall/Change." Check everything
and uninstall.

I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. My house burned down Thursday and I think
I'm still a bit shocky. I Googled for my solution but ended up finding it
on an MS site.
 
T

Tavares

Hello again, so it's good to practice english just for the experience. A
good thing that the group works fine in the way of answering questions
related to Windows 7, I supose most people who can use windows 7 version
have enough resources to go with WLM 2011. The manual quoting in WLM 2011,
turns the text not so confusing to read. I hope i'm not spoiling your time,
it's a great honour to contact you.



"Paul" escreveu na mensagem
I have nothing to complain about WLM 2011, it's just my opinion, don't
want to force you to change anything, WLM 2011 (v.15) it's perfect, if you
like thunderbird or other it's ok for me.
Other posters don't have much in the way of requirements. Lots and lots
of different news readers are used here, with no comment from any other
respondent.

However, when someone uses WLM 2011, and it screws up the quoting, that's
when the complaints begin to fly.

So sure, you're free to use whatever newsreader you want... as long
as it doesn't spoil the experience for others, or make extra work for
them (correcting the quoting, fixing a signature blocking some text etc).

If WLM 2011 was just a little more conformant with what other newsreaders
can do, we wouldn't have a word to say about it. V.15 is the worst of the
lot, and one previous version worked a little better than the current one
does.

Paul
 
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Lee Waun

No! Not the registry! It has to do with uninstalling via Programs
and Features. Highlight WLM and go to "Uninstall/Change." Check
everything and uninstall.

I'm sorry I wasn't more specific. My house burned down Thursday and I
think I'm still a bit shocky. I Googled for my solution but ended up
finding it on an MS site.
I d
id unistall it first from there before I tried to install 2009. It still
says I have anewerversion installed then quits.
 
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BobbyM

I d
id unistall it first from there before I tried to install 2009. It still
says I have anewerversion installed then quits.
You probably need to uninstall every bit of Windows Live (that is, every
program associated with it) before trying to install the older version
or any part of an older version. Once you have the older version
installed, you can then reinstall only the parts of the newest version
that you want.
 

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