WLM 2011

[Lee Waun]

I downloaded the new WLM 2011 and found I hated it. I really liked the
older 2009 version and I just could not uninstall the newer 2011 version
so I downloade Thunderbird and I'll it as it is more like the older
outlook express that I did like years ago.

 

[Jeff Layman]

I downloaded the new WLM 2011 and found I hated it. I really liked the
older 2009 version and I just could not uninstall the newer 2011 version
so I downloade Thunderbird and I'll it as it is more like the older
outlook express that I did like years ago.

Welcome to the TB club. I, like you, tried WLM with Win7, but found it
too unreliable, as it frequently failed to post. IMO it wasn't as good
as OE6 under XP. And if MS isn't going to fix the "show previous post"
issue (ie it doesn't show anything, even a ">" for previous text), that
makes it unusable. Remember also that MS has no interest in Usenet news
now - it prefers its own forums where it has full control.

TB isn't perfect, but it is better than WLM.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

Welcome to the TB club. I, like you, tried WLM with Win7, but found
it too unreliable, as it frequently failed to post. IMO it wasn't as
good as OE6 under XP. And if MS isn't going to fix the "show
previous post" issue (ie it doesn't show anything, even a ">" for
previous text), that makes it unusable. Remember also that MS has no
interest in Usenet news now - it prefers its own forums where it
has full control.

TB isn't perfect, but it is better than WLM.

Me three. What I really wanted was OE6, but the closest proximity I
could find is TB 2. It has the added advantage of being available in a
portable version.

I find myself sticking to older versions with a lot of programs.

 

[housetrained]

good - you may be able to help me. I am thinking of using TB but:
Can you have more than one hotmail address at the same time?
Can you make your own stationery & signatures?
Had a quick look but could not find out so I uninstalled it. TIA
--

John the West Ham Fan

(e-mail address removed)
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[Char Jackson]

good - you may be able to help me. I am thinking of using TB but:
Can you have more than one hotmail address at the same time?
Can you make your own stationery & signatures?
Had a quick look but could not find out so I uninstalled it. TIA

60 seconds with Google tells me the answers are yes, yes, and yes.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

good - you may be able to help me. I am thinking of using TB but: Can
you have more than one hotmail address at the same time? Can you make
your own stationery & signatures? Had a quick look but could not find
out so I uninstalled it. TIA

I don't know about hotmail, but I have multiple POP3/SMTP accounts with
the same server. You can make your own signatures (as I have here), but
I don't know about stationery. I'm a text only guy.

I'm really a newbie when it comes to Thunderbird. I suggest subscribing
to the
mozilla.support.thunderbird group on the news.mozilla.org server. That's
where
I go for answers.

 

[Sunny Bard]

I am thinking of using TB but:
Can you have more than one hotmail address at the same time?

Yes, either all delivered into a single inbox, or kept separate.

Can you make your own stationery

Dunno, why would you want to? html formatted email is evil.

signatures?

Out of the box, you can have one signature per identity, and multiple
identities per account. If you want random sigs, or to select sigs from
your own list, there are extensions for that.

 

[housetrained]

Thanks everyone - when more time is available I'll give definitely give TB a
try.

--

John the West Ham Fan

(e-mail address removed)
<><

 

[Lemon Saucy]

I downloaded the new WLM 2011 and found I hated it. I really liked the
older 2009 version and I just could not uninstall the newer 2011 version
so I downloade Thunderbird and I'll it as it is more like the older
outlook express that I did like years ago.

Don't use it for newsgroups until they (the people at Microsoft) fix the
plain text reply posting which is broken. Instead try Thunderbird for
newsgroups - it's free for the download.

LS

 

[Jack]

Don't use it for newsgroups until they (the people at Microsoft) fix the
plain text reply posting which is broken.

What's broken? It works fine here.

 

[Valorie *~]

I downloaded the new WLM 2011 and found I hated it. I really liked the
older 2009 version and I just could not uninstall the newer 2011 version so
I downloade Thunderbird and I'll it as it is more like the older outlook
express that I did like years ago.

You can also move WindowsMail to W-7 and remove WindowsLiveMail. A quick
Google will show that many people hate WLM. We did so I loved WM from my
Vista PC to my W-7 PC.

 

[Valorie *~]

Me three. What I really wanted was OE6, but the closest proximity I
could find is TB 2. It has the added advantage of being available in a
portable version.

I find myself sticking to older versions with a lot of programs.

From what I see a lot of the changes in W-7 were not for the better. Now MS
doesn't even give us an email/Usenet client. WLM is installed by HP before
they sell their PCs. Have you tried moving OE6 to your W-7 PC? It would
have to go into the (x86) folder.

 

[Valorie *~]

good - you may be able to help me. I am thinking of using TB but:
Can you have more than one hotmail address at the same time?
Can you make your own stationery & signatures?
Had a quick look but could not find out so I uninstalled it. TIA

Copy WindowsMail from a friend's Vista PC and move it to your W-7 PC. I
used a flash drive. Maybe MS will smarten up and add WM to W-7 in the
future.

 

[Lee Waun]

"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message

Welcome to the TB club. I, like you, tried WLM with Win7, but found it
too unreliable, as it frequently failed to post. IMO it wasn't as
good as OE6 under XP. And if MS isn't going to fix the "show previous
post" issue (ie it doesn't show anything, even a ">" for previous text),
that makes it unusable. Remember also that MS has no
interest in Usenet news now - it prefers its own forums where it
has full control.

TB isn't perfect, but it is better than WLM.

Me three. What I really wanted was OE6, but the closest proximity I
could find is TB 2. It has the added advantage of being available in a
portable version.

I find myself sticking to older versions with a lot of programs.

Actually I ended up taking thunderbird off the machine as I could not get
it to filter out frank and alias. The message filters didn't seem to show
any easy to use kill file filters so I put wlm back on this machine. I
prefer wlm 2009 but can't find any download on microsoft. All I find is this
2011 version which I don't like but I have figured out most of it but I
can't get it to quote when I reply to newsgroup posts. Have to do it
manually.

But at least my kill filters make this an alias and frank free experience.

 

[Lee Waun]

"Jack" wrote in message

Don't use it for newsgroups until they (the people at Microsoft) fix the
plain text reply posting which is broken.

What's broken? It works fine here.


How do you get it to quote without doing it by hand?

I left your response unquoted.

 

[Jeff Layman]

On 19/10/2010 08:16, Lee Waun wrote:
(snip)

Actually I ended up taking thunderbird off the machine as I could not
get it to filter out frank and alias. The message filters didn't seem to
show any easy to use kill file filters so I put wlm back on this
machine. I prefer wlm 2009 but can't find any download on microsoft. All
I find is this 2011 version which I don't like but I have figured out
most of it but I can't get it to quote when I reply to newsgroup posts.
Have to do it manually.

But at least my kill filters make this an alias and frank free experience.

You can always glance at the "From" column and make your own mind up.
Very, very occasionally, when they remember to take their meds, Frank
and Alias can come up with useful posts.

 

[Jeff Layman]

What's broken? It works fine here.

That's because you're using an old version (14.0.8089.726). When MS
updated that they screwed up the reply delimiter (>), so when you get
multiple replies in a newsgroup posting it is impossible to tell who
posted what!

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message





Actually I ended up taking thunderbird off the machine as I could
not get it to filter out frank and alias. The message filters didn't
seem to show any easy to use kill file filters so I put wlm back on
this machine. I prefer wlm 2009 but can't find any download on
microsoft. All I find is this 2011 version which I don't like but I
have figured out most of it but I can't get it to quote when I reply
to newsgroup posts. Have to do it manually.

But at least my kill filters make this an alias and frank free
experience.

Frank and Alias who? The filters are crude and awkward, but they can be
made to work. My killfile, pioneered by Alias and Frank, is up to over
50 entries.

 

[news.aioe.org]

"Jeff Layman" wrote in message

What's broken? It works fine here.

That's because you're using an old version (14.0.8089.726). When MS
updated that they screwed up the reply delimiter (>), so when you get
multiple replies in a newsgroup posting it is impossible to tell who
posted what!

--

Jeff


Hi Jeff:

AFAICT, your above reply is not marked off with the character '>'. This, to
all intents and purposes, breaks the thread. While WLM 2011 works with HTML
posting, I am doing this in plain text. The news server I am using accepts
only plain text posts and replies, so the news reader must be able to handle
working in plain text. AFAICT, plain text replies are broken in WLM 2011 so
far to date. 'Using the latest version I could get my hands on: Version 2011
(Build 15.4.3502.0922).

Thanks,
LS

 

[Jeff Layman]

"Jeff Layman" wrote in message


That's because you're using an old version (14.0.8089.726). When MS
updated that they screwed up the reply delimiter (>), so when you get
multiple replies in a newsgroup posting it is impossible to tell who
posted what!

[Hi Jeff:

AFAICT, your above reply is not marked off with the character '>'. This,
to all intents and purposes, breaks the thread. While WLM 2011 works
with HTML posting, I am doing this in plain text. The news server I am
using accepts only plain text posts and replies, so the news reader must
be able to handle working in plain text. AFAICT, plain text replies are
broken in WLM 2011 so far to date. 'Using the latest version I could get
my hands on: Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922).

Thanks,
LS]

I'm not sure what's going on with your WLM 15.4.3502.922. Your reply to
my mail is in pale grey as I read it in Thunderbird and didn't show at
all in this reply (I copied and pasted the above text between the [ ]
so you could see it. If you look at the posts before your reply, you
will see that they are all indented with >>>, >>, and > from my last
post. I always try to post (and read) in plain text.

If you look at the the reply from Dave "Crash" Dummy to my reply to the
Original Post from Lee Waun yesterday, what do you see? Are there any >?