Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.

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Doum

Sure. I personally think a lot of software can be replaced with Open
Source versions but, if not, no sense in fighting it. If someone came to
me and told me he was heavily into PC Games (for example) I would suggest
Windows. Really not much of an option there. You might consider running
the Windows software in a virtual machine under Linux so you would be
secure on the Internet (not so much for games, though). But that's just a
suggestion.
Some softwares need all the power they can get from the hardware, it
wouldn't be wise to add another layer of software between the program and
the hardware especially if the software directly access the hardware.
 
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Doum

A troll? Yes. Over-priced? Most definitely. Under-powered?
Debatable. But it's a scenerio I'm seeing more and more.

A friend, who's been using Windows for 20+ years, just replaced his 5
year old Sony Viao notebook (Windows XP) with a 15" Mac notebook after
test driving a friend's for a day. He had been considering W7 machines
up to then. He's so happy with the performance that he's eventually
going to replace his 4 year old Vista desktop with a Mac, too. He said
it's worth the extra money not to have to deal with Windows' "problems."


Stef
I agree that under-powered is debatable since MAC hardware is really
becoming closer to PC hardware, same processors, busses, graphic chips,
etc.
 
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Doum

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC), Robin T Cockslee

Linux just does everything I need[...]

Your needs must be very rudimentary.
That's true of a lot of people actually.

Although what's still unaddressed is just what am I supposed to be
missing exactly? I've got copies of Windows 7 and Snow Leopard and no
interest in running either one of them. Linux simply does not look bad
next to them (despite all the lies to the contrary).
Isn't it amazing how, when you ask these WinTrolls what exactly Windows
does that Linux doesn't, they only come up with snide nothing? Just
Microsoft FUD, they don't even know why they are parroting it anymore.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/

http://www.cakewalk.com/

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/

These are a few examples.
 
J

JEDIDIAH

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC), Robin T Cockslee

Linux just does everything I need[...]

Your needs must be very rudimentary.

That's true of a lot of people actually.

Although what's still unaddressed is just what am I supposed to be
missing exactly? I've got copies of Windows 7 and Snow Leopard and no
interest in running either one of them. Linux simply does not look bad
next to them (despite all the lies to the contrary).
Isn't it amazing how, when you ask these WinTrolls what exactly Windows
does that Linux doesn't, they only come up with snide nothing? Just
Microsoft FUD, they don't even know why they are parroting it anymore.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/

http://www.cakewalk.com/

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/

These are a few examples.
...examples of things you don't even use?

Lemmings are great for whining about expensive payware software that
they are far too cheap to buy themselves and haven't even bothered to
pirate or learn to operate properly.
 
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One Shot - One Kill

Alias said:
Course, as usual, you don't share what "softwares" you use in Windows that
doesn't have comparable programs in Linux.
iTunes. for synching my ipod touch with my photos and music library.
 
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Doum

RonB <[email protected]> écrivait @news.eternal-
september.org:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:48:07 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC), Robin T Cockslee

Linux just does everything I need[...]

Your needs must be very rudimentary.

That's true of a lot of people actually.

Although what's still unaddressed is just what am I supposed to be
missing exactly? I've got copies of Windows 7 and Snow Leopard and no
interest in running either one of them. Linux simply does not look bad
next to them (despite all the lies to the contrary).

Isn't it amazing how, when you ask these WinTrolls what exactly Windows
does that Linux doesn't, they only come up with snide nothing? Just
Microsoft FUD, they don't even know why they are parroting it anymore.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/

http://www.cakewalk.com/

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/

These are a few examples.
...examples of things you don't even use?
I do use them
Lemmings are great for whining about expensive payware software that
they are far too cheap to buy themselves and haven't even bothered to
pirate or learn to operate properly.
I am ready to pay for quality products that I use. A hardware multitrack
audio recorder used to cost thousands of dollars. Those softwares can do
a lot more, video and audio editing and synchronizing, DVD authoring for
less than $1000, it's a pretty good deal.

Take a look at Native-Instruments Komplete 7 bundle at $600 and try to
imagine how much would cost all the included instruments in hardware,
more than a few hundred thousands. Tell me there's an equivalent in Linux
and that I've been ripped off.

I thought I would be getting a bunch of suggestions for "great" Linux
open source softwares to replace those, doesn't look good so far!
 
O

One Shot - One Kill

Alias said:
iTunes? LOL! You deserve Windows. Does Apple give you audio in FLAC?
the audio is in mp3 format. like most people in the world I do not give a
shit about flac. it is about as useful as an old betamax player.

and yes I use iTunes along with a few hundred million other people. don't
worry though - those grapes were probably sour anyway.
 
Z

Zootal

I am ready to pay for quality products that I use. A hardware
multitrack audio recorder used to cost thousands of dollars. Those
softwares can do a lot more, video and audio editing and
synchronizing, DVD authoring for less than $1000, it's a pretty good
deal.

Take a look at Native-Instruments Komplete 7 bundle at $600 and try to
imagine how much would cost all the included instruments in hardware,
more than a few hundred thousands. Tell me there's an equivalent in
Linux and that I've been ripped off.

I thought I would be getting a bunch of suggestions for "great" Linux
open source softwares to replace those, doesn't look good so far!
You will not find many equivalents of large commercial one-off packages
available for linux, nor should you expect to. Consider the thousands and
thousands of hours of development time it takes to make such packages - who
would waste their time making an open source equivalent for something like
this that has such a small audience?

Office packages? Sure. Open Office has become quite mature, and if you want
basic home/school/office/internet/etc., Linux works great. If you want to
explore how an operating system works by investigating and coding in cpu
schedulers, i/o schedulers, memory management algorithms, linux is it
because you can't even get to that stuff in Windows. Games? Wine is quite
functional, and many games work fine under Linux, others don't.

If you want complex one-off stuff, stick to the OS that the makers of such
packages cater to, which is usually Windows or Mac.
 
H

Huseyin Noori

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC), Robin T Cockslee

Linux just does everything I need[...]

Your needs must be very rudimentary.

That's true of a lot of people actually.
Isn't it amazing how, when you ask these WinTrolls what exactly Windows
does that Linux doesn't, they only come up with snide nothing? Just
Microsoft FUD, they don't even know why they are parroting it anymore.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/

http://www.cakewalk.com/

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/

These are a few examples.

Audacity
Ardour
Rosegarden
Lillypond
Timidity
Hydrogen
http://www.linux-vst.com/
http://martineastwood.com/wordpress/?tag=mverb

UbuntuStudio at work.
 
R

Robin T Cox

Robin said:
I have to admit that Windows 7 is most likely the bestest version of
Windows since Windows 2000 but even still I have removed it from my Dell
system in favor of Linux Ubuntu which I just upgraded to Ubuntu 10.10 from
10.04 with not a single trouble. Linux just does everything I need and
does it for free. I can compile a slim kernel to use on my P4 system or I
can have a fat kernel for my i7 system. It's my choice. Windows 7 puts an
extra 100 mb partition on my drive that I don't want. Why is that? Linux
does what I tell it to do instead of doing what some corrupt company
thinks I want to do. I use my Garmin GPS, Android phone, Sansa mp3 player
and my Sony USB turntable with Linux and have no problems. So why spend
$165 on Windows 7? I've been asking myself the same question. Time to ebay
the dung pile and get back at least some of my money. Linux may not be the
most popular system but in my opinion it's the best, at least for me.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ...
 
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Doum

You will not find many equivalents of large commercial one-off packages
available for linux, nor should you expect to. Consider the thousands and
thousands of hours of development time it takes to make such packages - who
would waste their time making an open source equivalent for something like
this that has such a small audience?

Office packages? Sure. Open Office has become quite mature, and if you want
basic home/school/office/internet/etc., Linux works great. If you want to
explore how an operating system works by investigating and coding in cpu
schedulers, i/o schedulers, memory management algorithms, linux is it
because you can't even get to that stuff in Windows. Games? Wine is quite
functional, and many games work fine under Linux, others don't.

If you want complex one-off stuff, stick to the OS that the makers of such
packages cater to, which is usually Windows or Mac.
I completely agree with you, I was replying to the completely irrelevant
comment by JEDIDIAH who seems to know more about me than I do.
 
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Doum

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:48:07 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC), Robin T Cockslee

Linux just does everything I need[...]

Your needs must be very rudimentary.

That's true of a lot of people actually.

Isn't it amazing how, when you ask these WinTrolls what exactly Windows
does that Linux doesn't, they only come up with snide nothing? Just
Microsoft FUD, they don't even know why they are parroting it anymore.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/

http://www.cakewalk.com/

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/

These are a few examples.

Audacity
Ardour
Rosegarden
Lillypond
Timidity
Hydrogen
http://www.linux-vst.com/
http://martineastwood.com/wordpress/?tag=mverb

UbuntuStudio at work.
I will check out Hydrogen and Lillypond (for Windows), but the functions
of the other programs are already covered by the programs I already have,
I don't see any advantages to switch.

I have Mint installed in a double-boot system with XP, but I don't use it
much.
 
S

Stefan Patric

I agree that under-powered is debatable since MAC hardware is really
becoming closer to PC hardware, same processors, busses, graphic chips,
etc.
And since the release of OS-X, the operating system is more efficient and
less of a resource hog making for improved performance even on "slower"
machines. However, Macs will never be a serious threat to Windows'
dominance in the general computer market. (Neither will Linux.) Macs
cater to a niche market. One that MS has never had much success
penetrating. And they've tried many times over the years.

Stef
 
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RonB

Some softwares need all the power they can get from the hardware, it
wouldn't be wise to add another layer of software between the program
and the hardware especially if the software directly access the
hardware.
That's true, especially with games. I don't use any modern Windows
applications, so my stuff runs just fine in a 384 MEG, Windows 2000
virtual machine.
 
R

RonB

And most important, the programs I use don't exist in Linux, and the low
end equivalent that I've tried under Linux are nightmares to install and
don't do half the job.
Some examples?
 
R

RonB

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC), Robin T Cockslee

Linux just does everything I need[...]

Your needs must be very rudimentary.

That's true of a lot of people actually.

Although what's still unaddressed is just what am I supposed to be
missing exactly? I've got copies of Windows 7 and Snow Leopard and no
interest in running either one of them. Linux simply does not look bad
next to them (despite all the lies to the contrary).
Isn't it amazing how, when you ask these WinTrolls what exactly Windows
does that Linux doesn't, they only come up with snide nothing? Just
Microsoft FUD, they don't even know why they are parroting it anymore.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/

http://www.cakewalk.com/

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/

These are a few examples.
Again, niche market applications. Probably used by fewer people than the
niche market Photoshop so often mentioned here. Has nothing to do with the
majority of Windows user's needs.
 
S

Snit

RonB stated in post [email protected] on 10/27/10 9:27
PM:
That's true, especially with games. I don't use any modern Windows
applications, so my stuff runs just fine in a 384 MEG, Windows 2000
virtual machine.
You often say Linux is as good as modern Windows... but here you are
admitting you do not even use modern Windows. Interesting.
 

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