Getting taskbar to STAY HIDDEN

[Gene E. Bloch]

Well, I have never seen it described like this, but a command
line by any name is still a command line.

Why not just make its varied functionality a part of the GUI OS?

(This means "because the OS as it exists is incapable of doing
many things which it should do as a matter of course.)

You *did* miss an opportunity to learn something.

One part you clipped in your reply is where you said the DOS box was an
accidental relic of older Windows versions, and what I said was a way
to show you that it is indeed an intentional feature of the current
versions.

Beyond that, I am catching on to your games - no, you've been around a
long time, and what you're doing isn't new, just a bit milder than you
used to do, and I should really just admit that I have tired of your
games - so I will now take the break I promised Nil around 20 minutes
ago.

 

[thanaroid]

You *did* miss an opportunity to learn something.

One part you clipped in your reply is where you said the
DOS box was an accidental relic of older Windows versions,
and what I said was a way to show you that it is indeed an
intentional feature of the current versions.

I snip what is not essential and what I do not directly respond
to. Whether the command line is a DOS leftover, a Unix leftover,
or just the only right way of doing something, and whether it
appears on a Windows or Linux screen, it is still a command
line, and it has been around WAY before Xerox PARC, let alone
Windows, and it is necessary to do what some might argue are
fairly basic things in a supposedly super-user-friendly-all-GUI
OS.

(This is not anywhere nearly as crucial or even important as
printing (to a file or on paper) the contents of a directory,
but I have been able to set transparency and the color of my
desktop icon titles for about 15 years with a free 20KB utility.
From what I have read here and in other groups recently, I
understand you STILL can not do BOTH in Windows. Just another
example.)

So I said, "Why not just make its varied functionality a part of
the GUI OS?" and "a command line by any name is still a command
line". Isn't it?

And next time when you are around a person who just bought their
first ever computer (needless to say, a laptop) ask them to go
to the command line and see what happens.

THAT and ONLY that is the point. MS gives us doggies that ask us
idiotic questions and hides bugs by stuffing additional 3,000
lines of code in an already bloated OS, but can not provide the
most basic functionality. They introduce features which many
users consider essential YEARS after they have been available as
freeware written by people who actually USE computers and care
about other users, not money.

The point I raised was not about the existence and necessity (or
none such) of the command line, it was that you can not print a
directory's contents in pure GUI Windows. And by the looks of it
never will. And that means something, at least to me.

Beyond that, I am catching on to your games

I am aware that many consider life a game, but I was never good
at games, lying, getting chicks, etc. I do this because I am
bored out of my mind and have nothing better to do.

- no, you've
been around a long time, and what you're doing isn't new,

I never claimed to be a groundbreaker. I do admit to being
boring and repetitious, but who isn't?

just a bit milder than you used to do, and I should really
just admit that I have tired of your games - so I will now
take the break I promised Nil around 20 minutes ago.

I don't know who Nil is, I don't read all the posts, and I can
only guess that means you are KF'g me - of course you know
you're not the first. My own KF is 8KB now, so I feel your pain.

Cheers.

(Nym/address altered just in case it will make you read what I
consider a reasonable reply to your bizarre accusations.)

 

[Ed Cryer]

Uhm, talk about splitting hairs.

Why did he mention him in the first place? To impress the great
unwashed with the fact he is aware of other languages other than
English, let alone the existence of linguist philosophers?

You're not a commie, are you? I've met some of them. They continually
drag everything down to ground level, and claim it's all in the
interests of humanity!
Sheesh!!
It's only in the interests of trying to manufacture a world at their
bone-idle level.

Ed

 

[Ed Cryer]

I snip what is not essential and what I do not directly respond
to. Whether the command line is a DOS leftover, a Unix leftover,
or just the only right way of doing something, and whether it
appears on a Windows or Linux screen, it is still a command
line, and it has been around WAY before Xerox PARC, let alone
Windows, and it is necessary to do what some might argue are
fairly basic things in a supposedly super-user-friendly-all-GUI
OS.

(This is not anywhere nearly as crucial or even important as
printing (to a file or on paper) the contents of a directory,
but I have been able to set transparency and the color of my
desktop icon titles for about 15 years with a free 20KB utility.
From what I have read here and in other groups recently, I
understand you STILL can not do BOTH in Windows. Just another
example.)

So I said, "Why not just make its varied functionality a part of
the GUI OS?" and "a command line by any name is still a command
line". Isn't it?

And next time when you are around a person who just bought their
first ever computer (needless to say, a laptop) ask them to go
to the command line and see what happens.

THAT and ONLY that is the point. MS gives us doggies that ask us
idiotic questions and hides bugs by stuffing additional 3,000
lines of code in an already bloated OS, but can not provide the
most basic functionality. They introduce features which many
users consider essential YEARS after they have been available as
freeware written by people who actually USE computers and care
about other users, not money.

The point I raised was not about the existence and necessity (or
none such) of the command line, it was that you can not print a
directory's contents in pure GUI Windows. And by the looks of it
never will. And that means something, at least to me.


I am aware that many consider life a game, but I was never good
at games, lying, getting chicks, etc. I do this because I am
bored out of my mind and have nothing better to do.


I never claimed to be a groundbreaker. I do admit to being
boring and repetitious, but who isn't?


I don't know who Nil is, I don't read all the posts, and I can
only guess that means you are KF'g me - of course you know
you're not the first. My own KF is 8KB now, so I feel your pain.

Cheers.

(Nym/address altered just in case it will make you read what I
consider a reasonable reply to your bizarre accusations.)

Only you can do it; make the change, that is.
What you seem to be doing is building your self-identity on obstinate
confrontation.
Well, OK, yes. I guess it can work to some extent. It will ease the
boredom, give you somethig to fight for. But it has a bad side-effect;
it keeps you stuck.

I've found that I've just had to accept compromise in some things; let
em just waft away. And then a good road forward opens up.

Ed

 

[Tim Slattery]

I am just really surprised at 2 things: that there is really
only one win7 NG (but I know MS hates the Usenet)

Before they dropped NNTP, MS created a family of newsgroups for each
new OS version. Since they didn't do that with Win7, some enterprising
person created this alt.* group, which is pretty easy to do. If you
want comp.os.* groups for Win7, go hang out in the news.* hierarchy
for a while and find out how its done.

 

[Big Steel]

Yes BS, it's me. The OS is picking on me. And cross several
installations, too. And I think it may be responsible for all those
hang-ups on my voice mail, as well.

Assuming you even get what I'm referring to, simply because you have not
experienced it does not mean it doesn't exist.

You have become somewhat boring with your whining. I don't have time to
change your diaper and burp you.

See ya I wouldn't want to be ya.

 

[D]

You have become somewhat boring with your whining. I don't have time to
change your diaper and burp you.

See ya I wouldn't want to be ya.

My, aren't you clever.

Asshole.

 

[Big Steel]

On 6/24/2011 2:19 PM, D wrote:

<snipped>
<not read>

There always has to be some whining little wet behind the ears clown
with serious diaper rash behind the ears running its mouth.

 

[D]

On 6/24/2011 2:19 PM, D wrote:

<snipped>
<not read>

There always has to be some whining little wet behind the ears clown
with serious diaper rash behind the ears running its mouth.

It's good that you admit it, that's the 1st step to getting better.
Maybe now you'll be able to quite being a troll, get a job, lose all
that weight, and get out of your mother's basement.

Blocked, ASSHOLE.

 

[Big Steel]

Blocked

You can run but you can't hide.

 

[thanatoid]

Only you can do it; make the change, that is.
What you seem to be doing is building your self-identity on
obstinate confrontation.

I will harp on something until someone either explains where my
reasoning and logic is wrong, or agrees with me. (The KF is
always an option, of course - I do not take it personally.)

I am NOT a fan of the mouse, and would prefer an OS which does
not use a mouse at all, but we are talking about how wonderful
Win7 is. If you have to type several words on something called
"command line" (again, ask someone who just bought their first
computer to go to the command line), to achieve a most basic
function (which, among others, is just a basic menu command in
Total Commander), then there is something wrong with the brains
of the people behind the project.

Well, OK, yes. I guess it can work to some extent. It will
ease the boredom, give you somethig to fight for. But it
has a bad side-effect; it keeps you stuck.

I've been stuck since I was born, which should have never
happened to begin with.

I've found that I've just had to accept compromise in some
things; let em just waft away. And then a good road forward
opens up.

Ed

I agree I have problems, but what that has to do with not being
able to print a directory's contents using a Windows GUI program
that should have been part of Win from the beginning - that
you'd have to explain to me.

AFA compromises - trust me, I have compromised on more things
than you can imagine - life is NOTHING like I thought it would /
should be, and I have accepted it. For one, I never thought one
of my principal ways of spending time was arguing about things
who for all practical purposes may not even exist.

 

[thanatoid]

You're not a commie, are you? I've met some of them.

You have a serious problem, mate.

They
continually drag everything down to ground level, and claim
it's all in the interests of humanity!

Oh, is THAT what they do?

Sheesh!!
It's only in the interests of trying to manufacture a world
at their bone-idle level.

Ed

With all due (or not, I don't know much about you) respect, has
anyone ever suggested that you may be suffering from a brain
disorder?

 

[thanatoid]

Before they dropped NNTP, MS created a family of newsgroups
for each new OS version. Since they didn't do that with
Win7, some enterprising person created this alt.* group,
which is pretty easy to do. If you want comp.os.* groups
for Win7, go hang out in the news.* hierarchy for a while
and find out how its done.

I know how it's done, and the last thing I would inflict upon
the world is a new newsgroup of ANY kind. It was a simple
comment - I am just killing time.

Besides this one, eternalseptember carries two MS groups with
Windows7 in the name, and none in comp.os.

I am sure you are as aware as I am that since the advent of BB
the principal use for the Usenet is dissemination of binaries.
Usenet as it used it to be is almost dead.

 

[Ed Cryer]

You have a serious problem, mate.


Oh, is THAT what they do?


With all due (or not, I don't know much about you) respect, has
anyone ever suggested that you may be suffering from a brain
disorder?

Yes, they have. I've had my muck-throwing battles.

Hey man, maybe we have much more in common than I thought.
That is actually my experience in a lot of situations; I end up bonding
with people I originally thought I'd never be able to.

You show good fighting spirit. Maybe there's something less than a fine
line between that and obstinacy. What do I know? Wasn't it Wittgenstein
who made his name with a treatise about how language pictures reality;
and then changed his mind totally and made his name again with
"language-games"?

I guess we need the idealists. They show us our faults. And I guess life
isn't easy for them.

Ed

 

[thanatoid]

correction:

 

[thanatoid]

Hey man, maybe we have much more in common than I thought.
That is actually my experience in a lot of situations; I
end up bonding with people I originally thought I'd never
be able to.

I have found it takes a while to discover and properly
appreciate the finer aspects of a person's intelligence and
personality. First impressions are only good when it comes to
sex appeal, and even then not always.

You show good fighting spirit. Maybe there's something less
than a fine line between that and obstinacy.

Very good point, and I agree, a /very/ fine line. If you believe
in something, you should stick by it. Sadly, that attitude seems
to be dying out in the interest of "taking it easy".

What do I
know? Wasn't it Wittgenstein who made his name with a
treatise about how language pictures reality; and then
changed his mind totally and made his name again with
"language-games"?

While I know who he is and have a friend who is a major fan, I
personally don't know enough about W. to comment.

I guess we need the idealists. They show us our faults. And
I guess life isn't easy for them.

I'm not sure you are talking about me, but I do consider myself
an idealist, and my life is hell. How much easier it would be to
grab a six-pack, watch a football game, and never read anything
after you leave high school.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I snip what is not essential and what I do not directly respond
to. Whether the command line is a DOS leftover, a Unix leftover,
or just the only right way of doing something, and whether it
appears on a Windows or Linux screen, it is still a command
line, and it has been around WAY before Xerox PARC, let alone
Windows, and it is necessary to do what some might argue are
fairly basic things in a supposedly super-user-friendly-all-GUI
OS.

(This is not anywhere nearly as crucial or even important as
printing (to a file or on paper) the contents of a directory,
but I have been able to set transparency and the color of my
desktop icon titles for about 15 years with a free 20KB utility.
From what I have read here and in other groups recently, I
understand you STILL can not do BOTH in Windows. Just another
example.)

So I said, "Why not just make its varied functionality a part of
the GUI OS?" and "a command line by any name is still a command
line". Isn't it?

And next time when you are around a person who just bought their
first ever computer (needless to say, a laptop) ask them to go
to the command line and see what happens.

THAT and ONLY that is the point. MS gives us doggies that ask us
idiotic questions and hides bugs by stuffing additional 3,000
lines of code in an already bloated OS, but can not provide the
most basic functionality. They introduce features which many
users consider essential YEARS after they have been available as
freeware written by people who actually USE computers and care
about other users, not money.

The point I raised was not about the existence and necessity (or
none such) of the command line, it was that you can not print a
directory's contents in pure GUI Windows. And by the looks of it
never will. And that means something, at least to me.

I am aware that many consider life a game, but I was never good
at games, lying, getting chicks, etc. I do this because I am
bored out of my mind and have nothing better to do.

I never claimed to be a groundbreaker. I do admit to being
boring and repetitious, but who isn't?

I don't know who Nil is, I don't read all the posts, and I can
only guess that means you are KF'g me - of course you know
you're not the first. My own KF is 8KB now, so I feel your pain.

(Nym/address altered just in case it will make you read what I
consider a reasonable reply to your bizarre accusations.)

I hadn't planned to answer you further, but I am flexible about my
resolutions, as you can see

I am responding because I want to point out that I don't plan to plonk
you or to stop reading your posts.

I didn't even notice your nym change; I read it as thought the 't' were
still intact.

Yours truly,
Fumbling Bloch

 

[Twayne]

In

My, aren't you clever.

Asshole.

But you do have the time to be a name-calling, childish dumbo by hurling
insults at people, don't you? Glad you don't live next door to us!

 

[Bob I]

<snip>

I agree I have problems, but what that has to do with not being
able to print a directory's contents using a Windows GUI program
that should have been part of Win from the beginning - that
you'd have to explain to me.

One question, having used windows for decades, I don't see the point of
"printing" the contents of a directory from the GUI. Placing a formatted
listing in a file for automated processing, yes, but printing is a waste
of paper.

 

[thanatoid]

<snip>

All I can think of saying ATM is that there is a big difference
between stumbling and fumbling!
;-)