Getting taskbar to STAY HIDDEN


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soup

I have only seen Win7 in the
stores, and read some of the posts here, which I find simply
hair-raising after hearing everybody babble about how wonderful
Win7 is.
Yes there are the occasional posts saying what a POS Win7 is but most of
the posts here regard using pieces of Win7 that some OP is unsure of.
 
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Big Steel

a) I liked 3.11 and hated Win95 when it came out. After a while,
I had to admit it was an improvement, but the reason I use
98SE*Lite* is because most of the further "improvements" that
started with 98 have just been an unnecessary and annoying PITA,
especially everything having to do with the basic GUI.

b) No, still doing this in Win98SELite, running the 4.00.950
1995 version of explorer.exe. There is SO little happening in
the couple of other groups I hang out in I thought I'd annoy
some more people here.

The best argument (among many to choose from) that can be made
against my presence here is that I have only seen Win7 in the
stores, and read some of the posts here, which I find simply
hair-raising after hearing everybody babble about how wonderful
Win7 is.
I like Windows 7 a lot. I like Vista too. I have never had a problem out
of either O/S.
 
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D

Never been the case in ANY version of Windows that you can hide the
taskbar permanently.
I don't want to hide it permanently. As I said, I ONLY want it to
appear if I hover over it, or press the Windows key. It's doing it
right now, and has been for about 10 minutes. NOTHING which requires my
attention is open (only TBird), NO messages under the "white flag", yet
still, the bloody thing won't get out of my face. I've been using
windows since 3.1, 2K and XP for years, and I don't recall this ever
occurring with any of them, only 7. Across several PC's, too.

I like to call it "Misguided Mommy-Ware". I just want the OS to do WHAT
I TELL IT, and nothing more.

PITA.

Dan
 
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D

Sure you can. Assuming the task bar is at the default position at the
bottom of the screen, move your cursor to the top edge of it until it
changes to a double headed arrow, left-click and drag it down. It will
not show again until you drag it back up :)
Mine is at the bottom, but I don't get the double arrow. I'm currently
running under "classic" view (non-aero). But that's not really what I
would prefer anyway, I'd just like to only pop up when I hover/press
"windows".
 
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D

It's been that way since NT 3.5. Sorry, it's mach ado about nothing.
It's not "nothing", when it does things like block the shortcuts at the
bottom of the desktop, the bottom of an app, etc. It's an idiotic,
unnecessary annoyance.
 
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Gordon

AND

"And please note I said WITHOUT using a 3rd party
app or going into DOS or whatever Win7 offers for command-line
use - if anything... so don't try to convince me it can be done,
because it can NOT - not INSIDE WINDOWS *without* a 3rd party
utility."
Oh dear what a PEDANT you are. That process IS using what Windows 7
provides NATIVELY.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Not splitting hairs, just not wanting to have to say "not a 3rd
party utility, not a command prompt, or any other workaround"
every single time I mention this. And I will keep mentioning it,
because it is one of many simple proofs that MS are only
interested in releasing new versions of the same garbage every
year - or as close to that schedule as MSly possible.
They truly are kindness personified.
As stated above, if it requires the use of command prompt (which
about 95% of Windows users have no idea exists), it is not
/strictly/ Windows.
No, he /did/ think. A lot.
Uh, he didn't say that Wittgenstein doesn't think...
 
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Big Steel

It's not "nothing", when it does things like block the shortcuts at the
bottom of the desktop, the bottom of an app, etc. It's an idiotic,
unnecessary annoyance.
I don't know what you are talking about. I use the hide taskbar with no
problems. Is it you?
 
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D

I don't know what you are talking about. I use the hide taskbar with no
problems. Is it you?
Yes BS, it's me. The OS is picking on me. And cross several
installations, too. And I think it may be responsible for all those
hang-ups on my voice mail, as well.

Assuming you even get what I'm referring to, simply because you have not
experienced it does not mean it doesn't exist.
 
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thanatoid

soup said:
Yes there are the occasional posts saying what a POS Win7
is but most of the posts here regard using pieces of Win7
that some OP is unsure of.
Understood, and I appreciate the absence of the usual abuse.

I am just really surprised at 2 things: that there is really
only one win7 NG (but I know MS hates the Usenet) and also that
there are as many typical nasty MS problems, excuse me,
"features", as the posts here would imply.

I actually thought I might go with Win7 (or whatever version...)
once my older machines die and I can't run what I like, but what
I have read, it will be just as irritating and incomprehensible
as XP.

In 9x, not to mention 3.x, a person of average intelligence was
able to understand almost - if not - everything the OS was
doing, and how it was doing it. Starting with XP, it became
totally demented.
 
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thanatoid

I don't want to hide it permanently. As I said, I ONLY
want it to appear if I hover over it, or press the Windows
key. It's doing it right now, and has been for about 10
minutes. NOTHING which requires my attention is open (only
TBird), NO messages under the "white flag", yet still, the
bloody thing won't get out of my face. I've been using
windows since 3.1, 2K and XP for years, and I don't recall
this ever occurring with any of them, only 7. Across
several PC's, too.

I like to call it "Misguided Mommy-Ware". I just want the
OS to do WHAT I TELL IT, and nothing more.

PITA.

Dan
All MS OS's since XP have been "Bob II". The doggie likes to
tell you what you should be doing, and he knows better.

Did you try the taskbar settings I mentioned (taskbar position
irrelevant, I am talking about invisible unless full desktop is
shown or unless you press Ctl) ?
 
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thanatoid

"Take it or leave it" rarely accomplishes improvement.
"Choice" and Windows go together about as well as a dish of ice
cream topped with hydrochloric acid.

And the only /improvement/ MS is interested in is the worth of
their company. That should be clear to anyone who has used a
Windows computer and read some computer press/web info for more
than a few months.
 
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thanatoid

Oh dear what a PEDANT you are.
And proud to be one. If there were more of us instead of half-
drunk morons managing the US economy and nuclear power station
security (etc. etc.), the world wouldn't be /quite/ such a mess,
although it would still be going to hell in a small handbasket.
That process IS using what Windows 7 provides NATIVELY.
A command line is NOT a "native" Windows feature. It is a DOS
leftover, kept either by accident (I would guess not one SINGLE
person on Earth has read - let alone understood - /all/ the
hundreds of thousands, or millions, of a complete Windows OS
release code for at least 10 years, if EVER) or, by some miracle
(not unlike the one by which a few thinking people at MS have
given us TweakUI - BTW, is there a TweakUI for Win7, or is Win7
just too damn perfect to need it?) offered to the few who MS
knows are as aware as MS are that there are NO other ways of
achieving certain objectives in Windows besides the command line
or 3rd party utils., which is where this kind of started.
 
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thanatoid

Uh, he didn't say that Wittgenstein doesn't think...
Uhm, talk about splitting hairs.

Why did he mention him in the first place? To impress the great
unwashed with the fact he is aware of other languages other than
English, let alone the existence of linguist philosophers?
 
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Gene E. Bloch

And proud to be one. If there were more of us instead of half-
drunk morons managing the US economy and nuclear power station
security (etc. etc.), the world wouldn't be /quite/ such a mess,
although it would still be going to hell in a small handbasket.
A command line is NOT a "native" Windows feature. It is a DOS
leftover, kept either by accident (I would guess not one SINGLE
person on Earth has read - let alone understood - /all/ the
hundreds of thousands, or millions, of a complete Windows OS
release code for at least 10 years, if EVER) or, by some miracle
(not unlike the one by which a few thinking people at MS have
given us TweakUI - BTW, is there a TweakUI for Win7, or is Win7
just too damn perfect to need it?) offered to the few who MS
knows are as aware as MS are that there are NO other ways of
achieving certain objectives in Windows besides the command line
or 3rd party utils., which is where this kind of started.
The Windows 7 command prompt is not the old DOS underpinning of
Windows, it is a separate application running under Windows, with
functionality and appearance similar to the old DOS box.

This has been true for a couple of releases of Windows, but I have
forgotten when it started.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Uhm, talk about splitting hairs.
Why did he mention him in the first place? To impress the great
unwashed with the fact he is aware of other languages other than
English, let alone the existence of linguist philosophers?
Showing our true colors, are we?
 
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thanatoid

The Windows 7 command prompt is not the old DOS
underpinning of Windows, it is a separate application
running under Windows, with functionality and appearance
similar to the old DOS box.

This has been true for a couple of releases of Windows, but
I have forgotten when it started.
Well, I have never seen it described like this, but a command
line by any name is still a command line.

Why not just make its varied functionality a part of the GUI OS?

AHA!

(This means "because the OS as it exists is incapable of doing
many things which it should do as a matter of course.)
 

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