Transferring all OE files to Windows Live Mail.


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Peter Jason

The old machine is WindowsXP with Outlook Express, and the
new machine is Windows 7 with Windows Live Mail.

From the new machine I want to import all the files from OE
on the old XP machine.

I have tried:

1/ Ensuring the "E-mail" file in Windows Explorer has
complete sharing rights.

2/ Using the import wizard of Windows Live Mail via an
ethernet cable.

3/ Exporting all the files from the OE on the old XP
machine.

4/ Physically copying the "E-mail" file from the old XP
machine (from Windows Explorer) to a USB stick to the new
machine and trying to access the files with Windows Live
Mail on the new Windows 7 machine.


I keep getting an error message on the new Windows 7
machine: "Import Message" "No messages can be found in
this folder, or another application is running that requires
the files open?"

Also, when I tried to copy the "E-mail" file across the
ethernet cable connecting the two machines, all the "E-mail"
files on the old machine disappeared! Luckily I had a 6-day
old backup.

Is there anything else I can try?

Desperate
P
 
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chrisv

Peter Jason said:
The old machine is WindowsXP with Outlook Express, and the new machine is
Windows 7 with Windows Live Mail.

From the new machine I want to import all the files from OE on the old XP
machine.

I have tried:

1/ Ensuring the "E-mail" file in Windows Explorer has complete sharing
rights.

2/ Using the import wizard of Windows Live Mail via an ethernet cable.

3/ Exporting all the files from the OE on the old XP machine.

4/ Physically copying the "E-mail" file from the old XP machine (from
Windows Explorer) to a USB stick to the new machine and trying to access
the files with Windows Live Mail on the new Windows 7 machine.


I keep getting an error message on the new Windows 7 machine: "Import
Message" "No messages can be found in this folder, or another application
is running that requires the files open?"

Also, when I tried to copy the "E-mail" file across the ethernet cable
connecting the two machines, all the "E-mail" files on the old machine
disappeared! Luckily I had a 6-day old backup.

Is there anything else I can try?

Desperate
P

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Bruce Hagen

Peter Jason said:
The old machine is WindowsXP with Outlook Express, and the new machine
is Windows 7 with Windows Live Mail.

From the new machine I want to import all the files from OE on the old
XP machine.

I have tried:

1/ Ensuring the "E-mail" file in Windows Explorer has complete sharing
rights.

2/ Using the import wizard of Windows Live Mail via an ethernet cable.

3/ Exporting all the files from the OE on the old XP machine.

4/ Physically copying the "E-mail" file from the old XP machine (from
Windows Explorer) to a USB stick to the new machine and trying to access
the files with Windows Live Mail on the new Windows 7 machine.


I keep getting an error message on the new Windows 7 machine: "Import
Message" "No messages can be found in this folder, or another
application is running that requires the files open?"

Also, when I tried to copy the "E-mail" file across the ethernet cable
connecting the two machines, all the "E-mail" files on the old machine
disappeared! Luckily I had a 6-day old backup.

Is there anything else I can try?

Desperate
P


Transferring data from Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail:

For Messages:

Copy the *ENTIRE* OE message store folder to a flash drive. (Folders.dbx
must be included). Place this on the Desktop or other location on the
machine using WLMail. Open WLMail and: File | Import | Messages |
Microsoft Outlook Express 6 and point to where you saved it.

OE Message Store Location:

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the
location of your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and
navigate to it in Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options
Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.

For Addresses:

Open the Address Book in OE and File | Export | Address Book (wab) and
save it to the Desktop. Copy to a flash drive. Place this on the Desktop
or other location on the machine using WLMail.

Open the Contacts list in WLMail, (Go | Contacts on the Menu Bar), and
File | Import | Windows Address Book (wab) and point to where you saved
it.

Note: If you use a CD or DVD instead of a flash drive, after placing on
the new machine you must remove the Read Only attribute in Properties
before you import.

For Account Settings:

In OE: Tools | Accounts, select the account and export it to the Desktop.
This will be a .iaf file. Copy it to the new machine's Desktop and in
WLMail: Tools | Accounts and import the settings from the location you
saved them.
 
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Heather

Nice to see you on here, Bruce........I just got a new laptop with
Windows 7 and now know who to ask *beginner* questions of.......(G). The
old XP box is still working, but at times it gets a little hinky. Happy
New Year.

Heather/Figgs
 
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Bruce Hagen

Heather said:
Nice to see you on here, Bruce........I just got a new laptop with
Windows 7 and now know who to ask *beginner* questions of.......(G).
The old XP box is still working, but at times it gets a little hinky.
Happy New Year.

Heather/Figgs

You too, Heather. Although most of my time is in the new <puke> forums
now. AFA Windows Live Mail goes, I just know a little about WLM 2009 and
almost zero about WLM 2011. Never even tried the latter and 2009 was
enough to make me migrate to Thunderbird.

Happy New Year to you.
 
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Heather

Bruce Hagen said:
You too, Heather. Although most of my time is in the new <puke> forums
now. AFA Windows Live Mail goes, I just know a little about WLM 2009
and almost zero about WLM 2011. Never even tried the latter and 2009
was enough to make me migrate to Thunderbird.

Happy New Year to you.
How do I access these new <puke> forums?? (G) I know what you mean
because I am a Sr. Moderator on a genealogy one......I try to avoid it as
much as possible. I kinda cover the evening shift cuz it is a British
one and they are in bed by 7 our time.

Where have all the *boys* gone to?? I never thought I would admit to
missing them, grin. I haven't really got this damned WLM set up and have
downloaded Thunderbird on the XP machine to try it out. Seems a lot like
OE. Are you on the Aumha forum as well?

Chat to you later......Heather
 
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Peter Jason

Bruce Hagen said:
Transferring data from Outlook Express to Windows Live
Mail:

For Messages:

Copy the *ENTIRE* OE message store folder to a flash
drive. (Folders.dbx must be included). Place this on the
Desktop or other location on the machine using WLMail.
Open WLMail and: File | Import | Messages | Microsoft
Outlook Express 6 and point to where you saved it.

OE Message Store Location:

In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will
reveal the location of your Outlook Express files. Write
the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer
or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB)
are by default marked as hidden. To view these files in
Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and
Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon
| View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options |
View.

For Addresses:

Open the Address Book in OE and File | Export | Address
Book (wab) and save it to the Desktop. Copy to a flash
drive. Place this on the Desktop or other location on the
machine using WLMail.

Open the Contacts list in WLMail, (Go | Contacts on the
Menu Bar), and File | Import | Windows Address Book (wab)
and point to where you saved it.

Note: If you use a CD or DVD instead of a flash drive,
after placing on the new machine you must remove the Read
Only attribute in Properties before you import.

For Account Settings:

In OE: Tools | Accounts, select the account and export it
to the Desktop. This will be a .iaf file. Copy it to the
new machine's Desktop and in WLMail: Tools | Accounts and
import the settings from the location you saved them.


Thanks, I got the address book transferred, but the same
error: "Import
Message" "No messages can be found in this folder, or
another
application is running that requires the files open?"
keeps appearing when I try anything else.
 
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Bruce Hagen

Heather said:
How do I access these new <puke> forums?? (G) I know what you mean
because I am a Sr. Moderator on a genealogy one......I try to avoid it
as much as possible. I kinda cover the evening shift cuz it is a
British one and they are in bed by 7 our time.

Where have all the *boys* gone to?? I never thought I would admit to
missing them, grin. I haven't really got this damned WLM set up and
have downloaded Thunderbird on the XP machine to try it out. Seems a
lot like OE. Are you on the Aumha forum as well?

Chat to you later......Heather


Microsoft Answers Forums
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories

Microsoft Answers - First Time Users
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Microsoft Answers FAQs
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help

Your BFF can be found here, among other forums.

Internet Explorer Forum
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

You can set up a "bridge" to access the forums using your newsreader.

Community Forums NNTP Bridge
http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/

Anything with "Live" in its name has it's own set of forums. I don't go
there. "Live bites"!

Windows Live Solution Center
http://windowslivehelp.com/

I keep an eye on Aumha's Internet Explorer & Microsoft Email Clients but
not much happening there.

Cheers!
 
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Bruce Hagen

Peter Jason said:
Thanks, I got the address book transferred, but the same error: "Import
Message" "No messages can be found in this folder, or another
application is running that requires the files open?"
keeps appearing when I try anything else.

Nothing in the Imported Folders found in Storage Folders?

You could try the Windows Live Mail Forum.
http://www.windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?productid=15

I got away from WLMail so I'm not very up on it. There is a manual way
that works. It may sound tough, but goes pretty quick in reality.

On the old machine, create as many folders on the Desktop you need and
then open OE and drag the messages from the OE folders to the Desktop
folders.

Copy these folders to the Win7 Desktop. Open WLMail and after creating
your own local folders if you need any, open the Desktop folders and drag
the message into the WLMail folders.
 
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choro

Thunderbird is a lovely program though it seems to lack OE's
View>Replies to My Posts

But you can configure Thunderbird to receive your posts from various
accounts which is a boon though to be honest I much prefer Gmail for my
personal mail and go over to Thunderbird or OE (depending on which
computer I am using; whether WinXP or Win7) for accessing Usenet and the
Newsgroups. I hear Google is a right pain in the neck for accessing
Newsgroups.

To be quite honest I still love OE6 and hope that an non-IE based
version is soon made available preferably free but I wouldn't mind
paying a small sum for it.

One look at WLM and I decided it wasn't even worth looking into. Such a
bloated program. There is nothing there that I can't do with other
discreet programs where I know where I stand.

And why ditch Skype which is so easy and simple to use and serves one well?

Soon M$ will market a program to fry your egg and bacon and prepare your
coffee for you, I hear. ;-)

They are treading the wrong path!n And look at Win7 which is basically
superb but why THREE Download folders, for heaven's sake. And worse, why
a My Documents sub-folder within the mother My Documents folder?

Have they gone mad or something?!

Can someone please, please give me a logical explanation? And even the
folder icons are insipid. Why could the not use the icons used in WinXP
which everyone knows and which are more readily visible. And the
shortcut I put on the task bar for Character Map -- I can hardly see the
damn thing whereas the icon in WinXP was easy to see and one could not
mistake it for something else!

Or have they done this so we will rush out to buy Win8 in a year or two?

Keep it turning over, I mean the tills!
 
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Bruce Hagen

choro said:
Thunderbird is a lovely program though it seems to lack OE's
View>Replies to My Posts

But you can configure Thunderbird to receive your posts from various
accounts which is a boon though to be honest I much prefer Gmail for my
personal mail and go over to Thunderbird or OE (depending on which
computer I am using; whether WinXP or Win7) for accessing Usenet and the
Newsgroups. I hear Google is a right pain in the neck for accessing
Newsgroups.

To be quite honest I still love OE6 and hope that an non-IE based
version is soon made available preferably free but I wouldn't mind
paying a small sum for it.

One look at WLM and I decided it wasn't even worth looking into. Such a
bloated program. There is nothing there that I can't do with other
discreet programs where I know where I stand.

And why ditch Skype which is so easy and simple to use and serves one
well?

Soon M$ will market a program to fry your egg and bacon and prepare your
coffee for you, I hear. ;-)

They are treading the wrong path!n And look at Win7 which is basically
superb but why THREE Download folders, for heaven's sake. And worse, why
a My Documents sub-folder within the mother My Documents folder?

Have they gone mad or something?!

Can someone please, please give me a logical explanation? And even the
folder icons are insipid. Why could the not use the icons used in WinXP
which everyone knows and which are more readily visible. And the
shortcut I put on the task bar for Character Map -- I can hardly see the
damn thing whereas the icon in WinXP was easy to see and one could not
mistake it for something else!

Or have they done this so we will rush out to buy Win8 in a year or two?

Keep it turning over, I mean the tills!

You can use Vista's Windows Mail in Win7 too. I use that for news and TB
for mail. If you have Pro, Enterprise or Ultimate, you can use OE in a
virtual environment.

How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7
http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx
 
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Heather

Microsoft Answers Forums
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories

Microsoft Answers - First Time Users
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Microsoft Answers FAQs
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help

Your BFF can be found here, among other forums.

Internet Explorer Forum
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

You can set up a "bridge" to access the forums using your newsreader.

Community Forums NNTP Bridge
http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/

Anything with "Live" in its name has it's own set of forums. I don't go
there. "Live bites"!

Windows Live Solution Center
http://windowslivehelp.com/

I keep an eye on Aumha's Internet Explorer & Microsoft Email Clients
but not much happening there.

Cheers!
Thanks so much, Bruce.......I will get the above sorted out. I never
realized how much we all relied on you guys when a new O/S came out. And
of course, I am slow to move up to Windows 7. Not to mention trying to
get used to the laptop. I type 80 wpm normally, but on that flat
keyboard, it is about 5 wpm, lol.

I must check and see what version the WLM is.....with my luck, it is the
latest.

So glad I saw your name and have seen a couple more occasionally on here,
but everyone seems to have scattered.

Cheers......Heather
 
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choro

You can use Vista's Windows Mail in Win7 too. I use that for news and TB
for mail. If you have Pro, Enterprise or Ultimate, you can use OE in a
virtual environment.

How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7
http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx
Thanks a lot, Bruce. This info will certainly come in useful. Saving it
for future action when I will have an hour or two to spare. Come to
think of it I've found out that another of my favorite programs is not
compatible with Win7. I guess this means a new lease of life for that
program too.
 
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choro

Thanks so much, Bruce.......I will get the above sorted out. I never
realized how much we all relied on you guys when a new O/S came out. And
of course, I am slow to move up to Windows 7. Not to mention trying to
get used to the laptop. I type 80 wpm normally, but on that flat
keyboard, it is about 5 wpm, lol.
Heather, (what a lovely romantic name!), I am a touch typist too and
know exactly what irritates you.

But I've found a solution to the problem.

No, not those idiotic wobbly laptop tilters that tilt the laptop 20 to
40 degrees. What you need is to tilt it by say up to 10 degrees or even
less.

And my cheap or even free solution is...

Get yourself a nice gel wrist rest. The sort that have velour type
anti-slip finish and place it under the laptop at the very back. That
will give your laptop keyboard a nice sloping angle.

Or here is an absolutely free solution to the problem...

Find some of that while synthetic beady stuff used for packing TVs,
comp screens etc. No, not the spongy stuff but the other one which is
made of tiny little synthetic globules stuck together. The name escapes
me right now but you know what I mean.

Break off a section same length as the width of your laptop where it is
quite narrow and around 1/2 to 1 inch thick . And position it under the
laptop at the back. And presto, this will give your laptop and the
keyboard the right tilt.

Problem solved!
 
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Bob Henson

Peter said:
The old machine is WindowsXP with Outlook Express, and the
new machine is Windows 7 with Windows Live Mail.

From the new machine I want to import all the files from OE
on the old XP machine.

I have tried:

1/ Ensuring the "E-mail" file in Windows Explorer has
complete sharing rights.

2/ Using the import wizard of Windows Live Mail via an
ethernet cable.

3/ Exporting all the files from the OE on the old XP
machine.

4/ Physically copying the "E-mail" file from the old XP
machine (from Windows Explorer) to a USB stick to the new
machine and trying to access the files with Windows Live
Mail on the new Windows 7 machine.

I keep getting an error message on the new Windows 7
machine: "Import Message" "No messages can be found in
this folder, or another application is running that requires
the files open?"

Also, when I tried to copy the "E-mail" file across the
ethernet cable connecting the two machines, all the "E-mail"
files on the old machine disappeared! Luckily I had a 6-day
old backup.

Is there anything else I can try?
Is it essential to use Windows Live Mail? If not, it would be a good point
to change to a real mail program. WLM is barely useable for the odd e-mail,
but completely useless for newsgroups - message written with it cause
complete chaos to others trying to read them.
 
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Bill Bradshaw

I agree with you regarding WLM. I wish they would upgrade OE6. I run
OE6 from XPMode just fine. I also use OE Quotefix with it. You need
Windows 7 Pro or higher to get XPMode. You can put an icon on your
Windows 7 desktop that will load OE6 and XPMode directly. You do not
need to start XPMode and OE6 as separate operations. It works just
fine. A little slow loading but no big deal.
 
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Peter Jason

Bob Henson said:
Is it essential to use Windows Live Mail? If not, it would
be a good point
to change to a real mail program. WLM is barely useable
for the odd e-mail,
but completely useless for newsgroups - message written
with it cause
complete chaos to others trying to read them.
--
Regards, Bob

A book is a man's best friend, outside a horse or a dog -
inside a horse or
a dog it's too dark to read anyway.

I can get mail and newsgroups with WLM but I cannot transfer
across my old OE files.

I have installed Thunderbird and Agent and these will not
allow it either!

All my OE files are in the "My Documents/E-mail" folder,
which itself has three folders: "Address Book", "Outlook"
and "Outlook Express". The "Outlook Express" folder has
*.DBX files and totals 12Gb. The WLM import wizard does
not work.

I ask: where are the equivalent folders in WLM on Windows7?
I want to try transferring the *dbx files one by one.

Please help.
 
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Bruce Hagen

Peter Jason said:
I can get mail and newsgroups with WLM but I cannot transfer across my
old OE files.

I have installed Thunderbird and Agent and these will not allow it
either!

All my OE files are in the "My Documents/E-mail" folder, which itself
has three folders: "Address Book", "Outlook" and "Outlook Express".
The "Outlook Express" folder has *.DBX files and totals 12Gb. The WLM
import wizard does not work.

I ask: where are the equivalent folders in WLM on Windows7? I want to
try transferring the *dbx files one by one.

Please help.


Is this the actual OE messages store folder that you relocated while OE
was still working, or a folder in My Documents that you moved the dbx
files to? If the latter, is Folders.dbx included? You will never import
dbx file contents to WLMail without it.

P.S. There are no equivalent folders.

Do you still have access to the XP machine and Outlook Express? My other
post will still work if all else fails.

<Repost>

On the old machine, create as many folders on the Desktop you need and
then open OE and drag the messages from the OE folders to the Desktop
folders.

Copy these folders to the Win7 Desktop. Open WLMail and after creating
your own local folders if you need any, open the Desktop folders and drag
the message into the WLMail folders.
 
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Peter Jason

Bruce Hagen said:
Is this the actual OE messages store folder that you
relocated while OE was still working, or a folder in My
Documents that you moved the dbx files to? If the latter,
is Folders.dbx included? You will never import dbx file
contents to WLMail without it.

P.S. There are no equivalent folders.

Do you still have access to the XP machine and Outlook
Express? My other post will still work if all else fails.

<Repost>

On the old machine, create as many folders on the Desktop
you need and
then open OE and drag the messages from the OE folders to
the Desktop
folders.

Copy these folders to the Win7 Desktop. Open WLMail and
after creating
your own local folders if you need any, open the Desktop
folders and drag
the message into the WLMail folders.
Thanks, I got it now; I have to drag all the *individual
messages* en masse to a folder and then copy these into one
on the WLM desktop and then into the WLM "Storage Folders".
Tedious, but it works.
 
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Bruce Hagen

Thanks, I got it now; I have to drag all the *individual messages* en
masse to a folder and then copy these into one on the WLM desktop and
then into the WLM "Storage Folders". Tedious, but it works.


Yup. You got it. Storage folders, or create your own folders first.
 

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