New computer but win 7 or 8

[Mike Barnes]

Anyone is welcome to do so. No charge.

*With* the open window and his message on it (unless he cropped it ).
<g>

No, that's an untouched screen grab. And if anyone's interested, that
skier is me.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

That's five more than.

You'd love my desktop. With the help of Fences I had nearly 150 icons
present on my desktop.

A couple of weeks ago, I decided that might possibly be overkill[1], so
I converted all 14 of the fences into folders.

My boot time is now only two or two and a half minutes instead of twice
that.

[1] Sponsored by the Department of Understatement Department.

 

[Ken Blake]

Ken Blake <[email protected]>:

Anyone is welcome to do so. No charge.


No, that's an untouched screen grab.

Yes, I didn't think otherwise. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough in what I
wrote. By "he" I meant Winston's "anyone on the planet."

And if anyone's interested, that skier is me.

You look like you're great at it! I can't ski at all.

 

[Mike Barnes]

That's five more than.

You'd love my desktop. With the help of Fences I had nearly 150 icons
present on my desktop.

A couple of weeks ago, I decided that might possibly be overkill[1], so
I converted all 14 of the fences into folders.

My boot time is now only two or two and a half minutes instead of twice
that.

[1] Sponsored by the Department of Understatement Department.

You'd love my boot time. 18 seconds.

AAMOI how did the words "my desktop" get snipped from "That's five more
than my desktop"?

 

[Ken Blake]

Now you've made me feel bad. Why, oh why, didn't I figure out a way to
spell "a" wrong????

LOL! The real point of my message was recognizing that "your" was
wrong (and I was sure you spelled it wrong on purpose).

 

[Ken Blake]

Ah..

THX

You're welcome. But for what they are, see Winston's reply and perhaps
also do the search I suggested.

 

[Mellowed]

The major incompatibility iirc is Outlook related
e.g. OL doesn't remember passwords and corruption can occur in the pst
file. The latter is contact list related.

There are also a few symptoms (cause/effect) that do not impact everyone.
- the presence of Office 2000 may cause some corruption in the Windows
user profile.
- installation of Service Packs could cause some performance and crashes.

For the most part, Office 2000 programs run fine on Win7. The long
standing recommendation for those that do wish to use it on Win7 -
install using 'Custom' mode and deselect Outlook and if installing
Service Packs ensure in advance (if still using OL that you routinely
backup of your pst file to external media).

Related. Office 2000 product lifecycle for support ended quite some time
ago... thus no updates or patches after that date are available.

Thanks for the info Winston. I haven't used Outlook for many years.
Instead went with Thunderbird and Lightning for all of the needs
provided by Outlook. As far as life support for Office 2000, that is
not an issue for me. So I remain contented.

 

[Mellowed]

I wasn't crazy about the ribbon either, but on the other hand, it
didn't take very long for me to get accustomed to it.

I run Microsoft Office 2013 these days (mostly just Outlook and Excel;
I prefer and use WordPerfect X6 for my word processor), and by now, I
don't have any real problems with the ribbon.

I'm to old to learn unnecessary new tricks. If I needed the new things
in the work place I would have to adapt. Right now I only use Word and
Excel. Haven't used Power Point since I retired 13 years ago. Quit
using Outlook when some compatibility issues started with some MS
updates. Went to Thunderbird and have been happy ever since. So it is
all non issues for me. If the world turns into a Pumpkin, I'll go with
Libre Office as it also works just fine. (I used Libre Office (free)
when I had Win8 as Office 2000 will not run in Win8.

 

[nukid]

EOS for Win7 SP1 is 2020. Which will be extended if there is
an SP2.

Welcome to Redmond, where up is down, black is white, and "EOS" is a
sunset, not a dawn.

 

[nukid]

Having listened to all the advice so far, the choice (for me) remains
between win 7 and win 8. Win 8 with the add ons as you mention seems to
be the best of both worlds.

Perhaps. If you don't mind Microsoft having veto power over you
installing applications they disapprove of, including some types of
virtual-PC software.

Any self-respecting gun-toting land-owning American should stick with
Windows 7, or use Linux, and tell Microsoft "hands off my property!"

(What, I forgot to mention MacOS/iOS? You're kidding, right? Apple's been
dictating what third party tools people can and cannot install on their
phones and tablets, and what technically-compatible hardware people can
and cannot run MacOS itself on, for years. They're old hands at what
Microsoft is just starting to dabble in with Win8, and every OS they've
ever released is affected.)

 

[Ken Blake]

On 4/13/2013 12:45 PM, Ken Blake wrote:


I'm to old to learn unnecessary new tricks. If I needed the new things
in the work place I would have to adapt. Right now I only use Word and
Excel. Haven't used Power Point since I retired 13 years ago.

I was about to say I was probably older than you (I'm 75). Then I saw
that you retired 13 years ago, so I'm perhaps wrong.

But I retired 20 years ago.

 

[Mellowed]

I was about to say I was probably older than you (I'm 75). Then I saw
that you retired 13 years ago, so I'm perhaps wrong.

But I retired 20 years ago.

Well you do have an edge on me. I'm 72. Hence my tag of 'Mellowed'.
Everything is relative. I had about 40 hectic years while working and
now nothing bothers me. I'm really enjoying retirement!

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

LOL! The real point of my message was recognizing that "your" was
wrong (and I was sure you spelled it wrong on purpose).

Yep. I was just went on with the 'a' thing 'cause you were pulling my
chain. Extending the fun a little bit...

And I'm not doing anything actually useful at the moment.

Well, in fact, I just did. I found a nice Android app to measure & log
sound levels so I could compare a couple of cars in an objective
fashion.

Amazing what's out there...

 

[charlie]

I could compare a couple of cars in an objective
fashion.

I tried this some time ago with a "real" sound level meter.
It turned out that there was quite a bit of variation between cars of
the same make and model.

 

[Ken Blake]

Well you do have an edge on me. I'm 72. Hence my tag of 'Mellowed'.
Everything is relative. I had about 40 hectic years while working and
now nothing bothers me. I'm really enjoying retirement!

Same here!

 

[gufus]

You're welcome. But for what they are, see Winston's reply and perhaps
also do the search I suggested.

I have Office 2000, but I use 2003. (it works fine with W7)

 

[Stef]

I have Office 2000, but I use 2003. (it works fine with W7)

I installed 32-bit Word 2000, the latest version my client had, on a
Thinkpad Edge with 6GB RAM running 64-bit W7 Pro. Didn't have to do
anything special. App runs hot, straight, and normal.

Stef

 

[Mellowed]

I tried Thunderbird but it doesn't recognize my (live.ca) address.
Just searches forever and won't give me the option of manual setup
until it finishes searching, which it never does. I have to stick with
Outlook 2003. I don't know why Microsoft doesn't have a good free
email program. I don't consider Windows Live email to be good at all.

Now that sounds like a challenge wanting to be solved. I think that it
is a setup problem. The first thing that comes to mind is a PORT
setting. My ISP recently changed to a POP service and changed Ports and
SSL. Check with your ISP for all of the correct settings.

Totally uninstall any old versions of Thunderbird and download the
latest. If I recall correctly Thunderbird checks some sort of database
after you enter your email address for setup parameters.

Well, forget all of the above. I went to live.ca to get the parameters
and realized that it is a Microsoft thing. You are forced to use
Outlook it seems. But I've got an idea. When setting up Thunderbird it
gives you an option for getting an email address through some kind of
ISP that I never heard of. Why not give it a try? It it works and you
like it (and if its free) then you could consider sending out an email
address change. If nothing else it's good for an education.

 

[Ken Blake]

Gene E. Bloch <[email protected]>:

My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
otherwise satisfactory, it is not generally worth worrying about. Most
people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.

 

[Stef]

My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
otherwise satisfactory, it is not generally worth worrying about. Most
people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.

I consider long boot times as indicative of a lot of crap I don't need
being loaded and taking up precious RAM that could better be used
for something else.

Stef