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[QuestionQuigley]

How does one set a newsgroup response in Live mail so that the original
posting is indented or marked off with a symbol such as "<."

I can seem to find a way to do that.

Thanks,

Quigley

 

[John Williamson]

How does one set a newsgroup response in Live mail so that the original
posting is indented or marked off with a symbol such as "<."

I can seem to find a way to do that.

Try the steps on this page:-

http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/

Or give up and start using a decent program, such as Thunderbird,
Turnpike or Agent.

 

[BillW50]

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Try the steps on this page:-

http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/

Or give up and start using a decent program, such as Thunderbird,
Turnpike or Agent.

Thunderbird, Turnpike, and Agent are terrible! Why do you push that crap
for?

 

[Ken Blake]

How does one set a newsgroup response in Live mail so that the original
posting is indented or marked off with a symbol such as "<."

I can seem to find a way to do that.

Right, that's one of the reasons that Windows Live Mail is such a poor
choice.

 

[Paul]

Billy boy's headers before he realized I might look at them and switched
to Outhouse Distress:

From: BillW50 <[email protected]>
*User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411)*

Wow. Busted. And a good choice by the way.

Thunderbird will put in the quote marks.

Just about anything will put in quote marks. Except
perhaps something written by Microsoft, which
has to "gimp into last place" when it comes
to newsreading and writing. I think their bad
implementation, is a source of pride to them.

Paul

 

[BillW50]

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Wow. Busted. And a good choice by the way.

Busted? Read the rest! Are you really that slow Paul?

Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix Linux

And I was complaining how bad Linux is and how bad Thunderbird is, but
what are you going to do when you run Linux? You have to put up with the
crap they feed you. I even stated I was using Thunderbird in the message
itself. How dumb can you get Paul?

Thunderbird will put in the quote marks.

Don't get me started about all of the stupid crap that Thunderbird puts
the user through. It doesn't get all of the messages, as it misses like
1 to 2%. You can't use your favorite editor with all of the wonderful
features of macros and all and then paste it back in. Switching between
threaded and unthreaded takes forever. Can't view only read and unread
watched at the same time. There are so many bad things about Thunderbird
it isn't funny.

Just about anything will put in quote marks. Except
perhaps something written by Microsoft, which
has to "gimp into last place" when it comes
to newsreading and writing. I think their bad
implementation, is a source of pride to them.

I am using Microsoft newsreader right now Paul! And it places quote
marks perfectly. It even fixes your messed up quotes that your software
had created. There is only one Microsoft product that doesn't
automatically quote and only one version. And that is WLM 2012 and that
is it. But saying all Microsoft products doesn't is just being so super
dumb and ignorant.

 

[BillW50]

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Right, that's one of the reasons that Windows Live Mail is such a poor
choice.

I do it all of the time, even when I use WLM.

 

[BillW50]

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Can't be done. Microsoft doesn't want you going to Usenet ever since
they nuked their Usenet servers' MS newsgroups. Try Thunderbird; it's
similar to Windows Live Mail.

Thunderbird is not even close to WLM. In fact, it isn't close to
anything. As what other product do you know that takes two days looking
to configure something in the configuration editor to learn it wasn't
there to begin with? I mean besides crappy Firefox?

 

[Andy Burns]

There is only one Microsoft product that doesn't
automatically quote and only one version. And that is WLM 2012

And I know you're *not* using that version, because your posts would be
hidden by my filtering rules if you did, VLM v15 is so bad that I
disregard anything said by anyone using it.

 

[BillW50]

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I can't help it if you're too stupid to figure out simple things.

You wish it was simple. That is ok, close your eyes, click your heels
three times and make a wish. And it will happen too. ;-)

 

[VanguardLH]

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Thunderbird, Turnpike, and Agent are terrible! Why do you push that crap
for?

Probably because they work regarding what the OP asked about. Unless
the OP can find a pre-version 15 of WLM (which he won't get from
Microsoft), he'll remained screwed by Microsoft's decision to NOT
properly delimit and indent the quoted content in a reply. Those
newsreaders you mentioned do that just fine. No, they may not have that
one super-critical function that YOU deem is required (by YOU and only
YOU) but not everyone feels that function is absolutely necessary.

 

[VanguardLH]

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I do it all of the time, even when I use WLM.

You forgot an important qualifier in your reply: manually.

"I do it MANUALLY all of the time, even when I use WLM."

I could use a newsreader that doesn't strip out signatures in my replies
so I have to do it manually, but there are lots of choices for
newsreaders where that operation is performed automatically. WLM users
have to waste their time doing manually what Microsoft removed as a
function available in pre-15 versions of WLM.

 

[BillW50]

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I haven't had problem one with Thunderbird in Windows or Linux. You
have endless problems. Can you connect the dots?

Yeah I connected the dots Alias! Dumb people like you are always
satisfied with crappy software. Intelligent people on the other hand
won't put up with that crap.

 

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

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Thunderbird, Turnpike, and Agent are terrible! Why do you push that crap
for?

I don't know about Thunderbird or Turnpike I've never used them but
Agent is definitely not crap. I think I would have noticed as I have
been using Agent since 1995.

Steve

 

[BillW50]

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Probably because they work regarding what the OP asked about.

If you bought a brand new automobile and that only thing that worked was
the radio, would you call the automobile as working? I wouldn't.

Unless the OP can find a pre-version 15 of WLM (which he won't get
from Microsoft),

Yes the earlier version is available from Microsoft.

Full Version Installer English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-all.exe

he'll remained screwed by Microsoft's decision to NOT
properly delimit and indent the quoted content in a reply. Those
newsreaders you mentioned do that just fine.

No, they may not have that one super-critical function that YOU deem
is required (by YOU and only YOU) but not everyone feels that function
is absolutely necessary.

No it wasn't me who got Microsoft to put in "Show Replies to my
Messages". I didn't even know I needed that feature until one day during
an update it was there. Later I found out there was a group that kept
bugging Microsoft until they put that feature into OE.

But it was I bugging Mozilla and others to add this view into their
newsreaders. But they just don't care! Or is it they are too
incompetent? As the few views that say Thunderbird has, doesn't even
work right anyway. For example you can't view only watched threads with
both read and unread. Nope, that is too much for Mozilla programmers.
They can only show you unread watched threads only.

 

[BillW50]

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I don't know about Thunderbird or Turnpike I've never used them but
Agent is definitely not crap. I think I would have noticed as I have
been using Agent since 1995.

Back in '95 Agent I think didn't even support more than one email
account. While virtually every other reader out there including OE did.

 

[BillW50]

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OE hadn't been born in 95. MS had Internet Mail then. OE wasn't
created until 1996. Soooo, a non existent email/newsreader could have
more than one email account, eh? Please explain.

Oh and that is the point you slow Alias got out of it? No the point was
Agent was one of the last readers on the planet to support multiple
email accounts. If I recall correctly, that was not until 2005 with
Agent v3.

 

[Paul]

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Thunderbird is not even close to WLM. In fact, it isn't close to
anything. As what other product do you know that takes two days looking
to configure something in the configuration editor to learn it wasn't
there to begin with? I mean besides crappy Firefox?

I think what we can tell people is:

1) WLM 15 is dysfunctional. It was purposely modified to ruin
threads in USENET. Previous versions worked better.
2) If you install a previous version, it's just possible the
software will try to update itself. WLM is part of a suite,
an idea I detest. Good programs should stand alone, allow
easy removal alone, etc.
3) There are plenty of newsreaders out there. A person is free
to go out and test them, until they find one they're happy
with. Brow beating them into using *your* choice, isn't the
answer.

But the bottom line remains, use WLM 15, and screw up threads,
and you're going to get feedback from the other people in the
thread. Especially when something they didn't say, is attributed
to them by accident. Then the fur will fly. So if you enter
the room with "WLM 15" tattooed on your forehead, you'd better
move like Bush with that shoe guy. Duck

Paul

 

[Char Jackson]

Back in '95 Agent I think didn't even support more than one email
account.

I don't use the email features of Agent, so I don't care if it handles
one email account, a dozen email accounts, or no email accounts at
all.

While virtually every other reader out there including OE did.

Most newsreaders at the time probably didn't include email at all.

 

[Char Jackson]

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Thunderbird, Turnpike, and Agent are terrible! Why do you push that crap
for?

You wouldn't be saying that if any of them included CTRL-H, a feature
that only you seem to think is critical.