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Char Jackson
If we surveyed 100 random people, I wonder how many would agree? You
know, like that old TV show, Family Feud.
There you go! I love a mystery solved. ;-)
know, like that old TV show, Family Feud.
K
Ken Blake
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 23:06:13 +0100, Mike Barnes
If we surveyed 100 random people, I wonder how many would agree? You
know, like that old TV show, Family Feud.
I don't want to join an argument about this, but I thought I would
participate in your survey. Mike said two things. I agree with the
first one ("I don't regard 'User1' as random"), but not the second
("It's the logical default for the first or only unnamed user").
And I don't know "that old TV show, Family Feud."
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Robin Bignall
Steve, no matter what you want to transfer from and to, run Windows Easy
Transfer first, even if you think what you're transferring to is an
"upgrade" version.
I put off the XP to W7 transition for quite a while because I didn't
want to do a clean install. But I downloaded Easy Transfer (WIT) and ran
it on XP just before I installed Win7 on a new hardware system.
Run WIT on old system.
Install new.
(In my case install new M/B drivers.)
Run WIT on new system. All the data for all of my programs ended up
where Win7 thinks it ought to be, and with a few tweeks everything
worked.
M
Mike Barnes
I don't think of it as an argument, but anyway. My thinking is this. IfKen Blake said:
I open a new document in MS Word, it's called "Document1" until I give
it a name. New Excel workbook: "Book1". New buffer in UEdit: "Edit1".
New audio CD in Nero: "Audio1". New project in my sync program:
"Project1". That's the pattern I'm following.
S
Steve Hayes
Is that a propriatary program, or something that comes with Windows, or
something else?
R
Robin Bignall
It comes with Windows 7 (and maybe 8) but you can download an XP (and
maybe Vista) version from Microsoft's site. It's free.
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Gene E. Bloch
Any time I've seen a Windows installation before a user created a user
name, the preexisting name was "Owner".
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R. C. White
Hi, Robin.
The program is Windows Easy Transfer; that's WET, not WIT. And what you
describe is exactly its purpose.
Yes, it's included with Win7 - and with Vista - and I thought it was in
WinXP, too, but I haven't run XP in about 6 years, since Vista went RTW.
And, yes, it is in Win8, too. So if you are running any of these Windows
versions, you already have WET.
Run WET twice, first on the Windows you are transferring FROM. (And it
works just as well when re-installing the same Windows version.) It will
transfer a lot of things from your system into storage that you designate,
whether a thumb drive, a network or - my favorite - a separate partition on
your HDD, one that WON'T get reformatted during the transition! (You can
even use an "Easy Transfer Cable", but the one time I tried that long ago it
was so slow that I gave up.) Then, after your new Windows is installed and
running smoothly, run WET again on your new system. It will offer you a
menu from which you can select which features you want to import. And you
don't have to do them all at one sitting; you can start with enough to get
you going, then go back and add others later. Just plug in your thumb drive
or point to the partition on your hard disk and follow the instructions.
The WET screen says you can transfer user accounts, documents, music,
pictures, email, Internet favorites, videos and more. You can pick and
choose; you don't have to transfer everything.
Note that WET is not for programs that have to be installed. For these,
having the program's files on your hard disk is not enough. You must run
each app's Setup or Install program from the new Windows so that the proper
entries can be made in your new Registry.
It's been a couple of years since the last time I did this and some of the
details are hazy now, but WET is menu driven. Just follow your nose and
you'll see how it works.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3505.0912)) in Win8 (RTM Ent Eval)
"Robin Bignall" wrote in message
maybe Vista) version from Microsoft's site. It's free.
The program is Windows Easy Transfer; that's WET, not WIT. And what you
describe is exactly its purpose.
Yes, it's included with Win7 - and with Vista - and I thought it was in
WinXP, too, but I haven't run XP in about 6 years, since Vista went RTW.
And, yes, it is in Win8, too. So if you are running any of these Windows
versions, you already have WET.
Run WET twice, first on the Windows you are transferring FROM. (And it
works just as well when re-installing the same Windows version.) It will
transfer a lot of things from your system into storage that you designate,
whether a thumb drive, a network or - my favorite - a separate partition on
your HDD, one that WON'T get reformatted during the transition! (You can
even use an "Easy Transfer Cable", but the one time I tried that long ago it
was so slow that I gave up.) Then, after your new Windows is installed and
running smoothly, run WET again on your new system. It will offer you a
menu from which you can select which features you want to import. And you
don't have to do them all at one sitting; you can start with enough to get
you going, then go back and add others later. Just plug in your thumb drive
or point to the partition on your hard disk and follow the instructions.
The WET screen says you can transfer user accounts, documents, music,
pictures, email, Internet favorites, videos and more. You can pick and
choose; you don't have to transfer everything.
Note that WET is not for programs that have to be installed. For these,
having the program's files on your hard disk is not enough. You must run
each app's Setup or Install program from the new Windows so that the proper
entries can be made in your new Registry.
It's been a couple of years since the last time I did this and some of the
details are hazy now, but WET is menu driven. Just follow your nose and
you'll see how it works.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3505.0912)) in Win8 (RTM Ent Eval)
"Robin Bignall" wrote in message
It comes with Windows 7 (and maybe 8) but you can download an XP (and
maybe Vista) version from Microsoft's site. It's free.
S
Steve Hayes
Ah, there's the rub!
C
charlie
Retired as from salaried employment (2005)
I still do some occasional consulting and OEM/VAR work.
The MSDN (full) and Tech-net Subs were gratis from MS until I retired
completely from the MVP program.
There are several subscriptions available.
MSDN (Most expensive, various levels)
Tech-net (Next expensive)
Partner Program (Various levels, includes a level of Technet)
It's not confidential, Just Google the appropriate one.
At one time, I developed and debugged code for imbedded military apps,
and automated testing of military systems and modules. The present and
past windows extensible dynamic help system is, in part, based on a
series of comments and suggestions I made at an MS meeting over a decade
ago. I assume no responsibility or take credit for what things finally
morphed into.
MY son is more active in the software/custom hardware business than I am
these days.
I prefer to spend some of my spare time building and flying RC Models.
Build an hour or two here and there, fly on Sunday afternoons. Us old
timers seem to take a lot longer to do just about anything.
After open heart surgery some time ago, I'm no longer able to hold an
airman's medical, so my full size pilot's license is more or less toast.
The latest R/C plane is a semi scale P-51 60" wing, with a 1600W
electric motor 5AH 23v battery, retracts, flaps, and air to ground
telemetry. Maiden flight was to be last Sunday. Unfortunately, the brand
new electronic speed packed up during pre-flight testing rather
spectacularly. (sparks, smoke, and a bit of melted fuselage covering
where the smoke and sparks escaped.) A couple of hours to replace the
covering, install the replacement speed control (when it gets here), and
try again, hopefully next Sunday.
M
Mike Barnes
I believe you of course, but that's just dumb. What has *ownership* gotGene E. Bloch said:
to do with anything?
S
Stan Brown
Looks like someone reads this group:
http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-8/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-8/
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Robin Bignall
Well, you know that there's no such thing as an upgrade install from XP
to Win7. I think you can upgrade from XP to Vista and then to Win7. But
XP to Win7 is a clean install of Win7 after running WET on XP.
Then I ran WET on Win7, then installed my software in the default file
for the software. (Software ABC installs in Program Files\ABC...)
After activation each program magically found its settings and data
where WET had put them.
K
Ken Blake
Yes, you can, but note that the double upgrade doubles the risk of
problems, and I don't recommend it.
Despite my recommending against it, that's exactly what I did on my
EEE netbook. I did it with the expectation of having problems, and I
was prepared to dump it and do a clean installation if necessary. I
did it because I was curious about how it would work.
In my case, it worked fine, and I had no problems. But I still
recommend against it.
G
Gene E. Bloch
What do rhetorical questions have to do with anything?
G
Gene E. Bloch
Now *that* is mean!
No, of course I know what you meant. In fact, to me it's cool that you
would do that experiment just to see what happens.
G
Gene E. Bloch
Is there a way to test the control before mounting it in the airplane?
Yeah, I know, you didn't have to be told, but I had to ask
K
Ken Blake
I didn't say it before, but I also hoped that it *would* work. I
didn't want to have to go to the trouble of clean installing Windows
7, reloading all the programs, and setting all their options.
It's for that reason that I almost always recommend *for* doing an
upgrade (but not a double upgrade) rather than a clean installation,
with the hope that it will work without problems. If there are no
problems, most people will save a lot of work. If you have problems,
then you need to do a clean installation and have lost a little time.
C
charlie
Yes there is and yes it was. It was also tested again before I packed upIs there a way to test the control before mounting it in the airplane?
Yeah, I know, you didn't have to be told, but I had to ask
for the field. One of the hi-power FETs decided to short out under load
during final pre flight checks. That caused the speed control to short
out further, and the cloud of smoke ensued. The battery is close to the
maximum voltage rating of the speed control,and the expected current
limit well below listed limits.
Another example of the luck I sometimes have, I suppose.
A faint comparison might be a problem I had decades ago. (70's)
Saturday afternoon. Piper aircraft, 6cyl SEL.
I'm in the left seat, area FAA examiner/FBO chief pilot/instructor in
the right. A couple in the rear seat as passengers. Flight is to be to a
private field located on a farm less than an hour away.
Abbreviated check list and rolling engine checks at the specific request
of the examiner (It's hard to say no in such a situation.)
Anyway, things were seemingly OK, so we proceeded to take off.
During climb out, it was obvious that the engine was not developing the
power that it should. Not missing, just not providing the expected
power. I let the plane climb gently to pattern altitude, and very
gingerly turned downwind. In flight checks showed that one of the Mags
had failed during takeoff, likely just before the plane lifted off the
runway, since it took a little longer than expected to break ground.
I had not flown that particular plane before, let alone at the
additional gross weight due to the passengers.
Land, switch aircraft to an older Piper twin, and try again. Since I was
not multi engine rated, and we had passengers, the examiner had to
legally take over "command". At least I didn't have to pay the usual
fees for the experience. He brought the passengers along, not me.
G
Gene E. Bloch
Like the (much less dangerous) time I installed a new Internet modem,
and try as I might, I couldn't get it to work. After two hours I called
tech support, only to learn that their system had gone down two hours
ago and still hadn't come back up...and it's also not the only time I've
had similar luck.
This isn't the first time I posted this anecdote on Usenet, so stop me
if you've heard it before