How many computers (sequentially) can a Windows license be re-used


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Eddie Powalski

I have a Microsoft store-bought version of Windows 7 professional.
It was installed on once machine, which was retired; and then on another.
I'm about to retire the second machine, which had to be activated by telephone
when I activated it last (as it was a totally different machine than the
original one).

I'd like to use the Windows 7 Pro on another machine (and I'll put WinXP
on the current machine - so it will be a swap - but that's not the question).

The question is whether there is a limit to the NUMBER of machines that
SEQUENTIALLY can have the same product key.

To clarify, there will NEVER be more than one machine with the same product
key at the same time. The question is simply whether there is a limit to
the NUMBER of machines that used the license, over time?
 
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choro

I have a Microsoft store-bought version of Windows 7 professional.
It was installed on once machine, which was retired; and then on another.
I'm about to retire the second machine, which had to be activated by telephone
when I activated it last (as it was a totally different machine than the
original one).

I'd like to use the Windows 7 Pro on another machine (and I'll put WinXP
on the current machine - so it will be a swap - but that's not the question).

The question is whether there is a limit to the NUMBER of machines that
SEQUENTIALLY can have the same product key.

To clarify, there will NEVER be more than one machine with the same product
key at the same time. The question is simply whether there is a limit to
the NUMBER of machines that used the license, over time?
Not if it is the Retail version.
 
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Ghostrider

I have a Microsoft store-bought version of Windows 7 professional.
It was installed on once machine, which was retired; and then on another.
I'm about to retire the second machine, which had to be activated by telephone
when I activated it last (as it was a totally different machine than the
original one).

I'd like to use the Windows 7 Pro on another machine (and I'll put WinXP
on the current machine - so it will be a swap - but that's not the question).

The question is whether there is a limit to the NUMBER of machines that
SEQUENTIALLY can have the same product key.

To clarify, there will NEVER be more than one machine with the same product
key at the same time. The question is simply whether there is a limit to
the NUMBER of machines that used the license, over time?
If it is the Windows 7 retail version, there is no expiration on the
number of times the particular product key can be used for a Windows 7
installation. However, the only restriction is that this key can only
be applied to just one Win7 installation at a time, i.e., no concurrent
installation, including a virtual machine.

For the Windows 7 OEM ("system builder") install, its product key can
only be applied to the system with which it was built and restricted
permanently to that system.

Note that if the purchased Windows 7 Professional is an upgrade install
and not a full-install, then the Windows XP install going into the old
machine cannot be the qualifying OS.

I think this covers all of the fine points.

GR
 
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Eddie Powalski

I think this covers all of the fine points.
It's a full retail version!
So, that is good news.
The gist is that I can put it on as many machines, sequentially,
as I like.
Thanks!
 
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richard

It's a full retail version!
So, that is good news.
The gist is that I can put it on as many machines, sequentially,
as I like.
Thanks!
Actually, you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
want, that you own.
If you were to install that item on machines owned by friends, and M$ sees
them operating from several locations, then that is a violation.
Then again, M$ may see it as a violation if you are using two machines with
the same license and key at the same time.
 
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Eddie Powalski

you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
want, that you own.
Now that's interesting.

I have the box in front of me. It says:
Windows 7 Ultimate
Microsoft Company Store Purchase
Do not lend or make illegal copies.
32-bit software (and 64-bit software)

There is a proof of license card, with a product key, which says
"Label not to be sold separately".

There is also an orange booklet for Windows 7, and an upgrade card.
But the actual license terms don't appear to be printed.
M$ may see it as a violation if you are using two machines with
the same license and key at the same time.
Hmm... doesn't that contradict your first statement that I can
use it on any number of machines that I own at one location?
 
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Eddie Powalski

you can install the retail version on as many machines as you
want, that you own.
On the side, in small print, it says:
Windows 7 Ultimate
You must accept the enclosed license terms before you can use
this software. To read the license terms, go to
www.microsoft.com/useterms. For use on one computer or device.
Activation by phone or Internet is required.
 
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richard

Now that's interesting.

I have the box in front of me. It says:
Windows 7 Ultimate
Microsoft Company Store Purchase
Do not lend or make illegal copies.
32-bit software (and 64-bit software)

There is a proof of license card, with a product key, which says
"Label not to be sold separately".

There is also an orange booklet for Windows 7, and an upgrade card.
But the actual license terms don't appear to be printed.


Hmm... doesn't that contradict your first statement that I can
use it on any number of machines that I own at one location?
No. I'm just saying don't be online with more than two at the same time.
They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.
 
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Eddie Powalski

Windows 7 Ultimate
You must accept the enclosed license terms before you can use
this software. To read the license terms, go to
www.microsoft.com/useterms. For use on one computer or device.
Activation by phone or Internet is required.
Going here:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/UseTerms/default.aspx

I see this PDF:
http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows_7 Ultimate_English_6d4624d7-f664-455e-9a08-433223886d7e.pdf

Which says:
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a public Teredo Internet service. It does so by sending a query over the Internet. This quer y
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connected to the Inter net and can locate a public Teredo ser vice. If you
· use an application that needs IPv6 connectivity or
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· standard computer information, and
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Dustin

Now that's interesting.

I have the box in front of me. It says:
Windows 7 Ultimate
Microsoft Company Store Purchase
Do not lend or make illegal copies.
32-bit software (and 64-bit software)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lzxymax

My understanding of this is that the first computer you installed it on was
the only legal computer to have it. When that machine retired/died
whatever, so did the license. The license is only valid for a single
machine. One time.


If you comply with these license terms, you have the rights below for each
license you
acquire.

1. OVERVIEW.

a. Software. The software includes desktop operating system software.
This software does not
include Windows Live services. Windows Live services are available
from Microsoft under a
separate agreement.

b. License Model. The software is licensed on a per copy per computer
basis. A computer is a
physical hardware system with an internal storage device capable
of running the software. A
hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate
computer.

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.

a. One Copy per Computer. The software license is permanently
assigned to the computer with
which the software is distributed. That computer is the “licensed
computer.”

b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two processors on
the licensed
computer at one time. Unless otherwise provided in these license
terms, you may not use the
software on any other computer.

c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license terms,
only one user may use the
software at a time on the licensed computer.

d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one
version, such as 32-bit and
64-bit. You may use only one version at one time. If the
manufacturer or installer provides you
with more than one language version, you may use only one language
version at one time.

3. ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.

a. Multiplexing. Hardware or software you use to

· pool connections, or

· reduce the number of devices or users that directly access or
use the software

(sometimes referred to as “multiplexing” or “pooling”), does not
reduce the number of licenses
you need.

b. Font Components. While the software is running, you may use its
fonts to display and print
content. You may only

· embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding
restrictions in the fonts; and

· temporarily download them to a printer or other output device
to print content.

c. Icons, Images and Sounds. While the software is running, you may
use but not share
15. DOWNGRADE. Instead of using the software, you may use one of the
following earlier versions:

· Windows Vista Ultimate,

· Microsoft Windows XP Professional,

· Microsoft Windows Professional x64 Edition, or

· Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition.

This agreement applies to your use of the earlier versions. If the
earlier version includes different
components, any terms for those components in the agreement that comes
with the earlier version
apply to your use of them. Neither the manufacturer or installer, nor
Microsoft is obligated to supply
earlier versions to you. You must obtain the earlier version
separately. At any time, you may replace
an earlier version with this version of the software.
 
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Paul

Eddie said:
Now that's interesting.

I have the box in front of me. It says:
Windows 7 Ultimate
Microsoft Company Store Purchase
Do not lend or make illegal copies.
32-bit software (and 64-bit software)

There is a proof of license card, with a product key, which says
"Label not to be sold separately".

There is also an orange booklet for Windows 7, and an upgrade card.
But the actual license terms don't appear to be printed.


Hmm... doesn't that contradict your first statement that I can
use it on any number of machines that I own at one location?
There is supposed to be a License file on the machine. This
recipe tells you how to find it.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Read-the-Microsoft-Software-License-Terms

I can find PDF versions on the Microsoft site, but I'd prefer
you read the one that actually came with your OS (for best
accuracy). That's because there are so many of these
files.

http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows 7_Ultimate_English_6b5dbb25-2871-4073-904d-9f2d3a9a0497.pdf

Generally, you can move a Retail installation, but then you can no longer
use that OS on the previous machine. And the only ways to get caught are:

1) OS phones home. Policy may have changed with time, as to how
often this is done.
2) Windows Update.

The Activation server, will know which hardware config, was the last
to use the license. The motherboard NIC MAC address, being a nice
serial number they can use to track you. Each motherboard has a
different MAC address, as defined by the Ethernet standards.

If the non-current machine shows up in Windows Update, then
they'll know.

Paul
 
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p-0.0-h the cat

My understanding of this is that the first computer you installed it on was
the only legal computer to have it. When that machine retired/died
whatever, so did the license. The license is only valid for a single
machine. One time.
Wrong. A retail licence can be transferred. An OEM licence cannot.

--
p-0.0-h the cat

Internet Terrorist, Mass sock puppeteer, Agent provocateur, Gutter rat,
Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, BaStarD hacker, Resident evil, Monkey Boy,
Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,
the SCOURGE, l33t p00h d3 tr0ll, p00h == lam3r, p00h == tr0ll, troll infâme,
the OVERCAT [The BEARPAIR are dead, and we are its murderers], lowlife troll,
shyster [pending approval by STATE_TERROR], cripple, sociopath, kook,
smug prick, smartarse, arsehole, moron, idiot, imbecile, snittish scumbag,
and a liar.

Honorary SHYSTER and FRAUD awarded for services to Haberdashery.
By Appointment to God Frank-Lin.
 
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Eddie Powalski

No. I'm just saying don't be online with more than two at the same time.
They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.
I don't think a MAC address makes it through the router.
Does it?

Plus, you can set all your PCs to have the same MAC address if you like.
Right?
 
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Eddie Powalski

One Copy per Computer. The software license is permanently
assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed.
That computer is the licensed computer
My license is different, as shown here:
http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows_7 Ultimate_English_6d4624d7-f664-455e-9a08-433223886d7e.pdf

Windows 7 Ultimate retail version apparently allows 1 computer at a time:

a. One Copy per Computer. You may install one copy of the
software on one computer. That computer is the “licensed computer.â€
b. Licensed Computer. You may use the software on up to two
processors on the licensed computer at one time. Unless otherwise
provided in these license terms, you may not use the software on
any other computer.
c. Number of Users. Unless otherwise provided in these license terms,
only one user may use the software at a time.
d. Alternative Versions. The software may include more than one version,
such as 32-bit and 64-bit. You may install and use only one version
at one time.
 
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Eddie Powalski

They will know how many machines are online through your MAC address.
The license says they collect the IP address (and other stuff):
http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows_7 Ultimate_English_6d4624d7-f664-455e-9a08-433223886d7e.pdf

4. MANDATORY ACTIVATION.
During activation, the software will send information about the
software and the computer to Microsoft. This information includes the
version, language and product key of the software, the Internet
protocol address of the computer, and information derived from the
hardware configuration of the computer.

For more information, see go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609.

When I went to that URL, it didn't say *anything* useful to
clarify if the MAC addresses (ethernet & wireless & bluetooth) are
sent or not.
 
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Eddie Powalski

The Activation server, will know which hardware config, was the last
to use the license. The motherboard NIC MAC address, being a nice
serial number they can use to track you. Each motherboard has a
different MAC address, as defined by the Ethernet standards.
I wonder if they really use the NIC address because that can be
trivially easily spoofed with freeware...

I looked at their privacy statement, and it didn't say:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609
 
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p-0.0-h the cat

I don't think a MAC address makes it through the router.
Does it?

Plus, you can set all your PCs to have the same MAC address if you like.
Right?
The operating system has direct access to the MAC address/ess coded
into the hardware. That address can be sent by Microsoft to Microsoft
at the application layer during the activation process and/or
whenever.

--
p-0.0-h the cat

Internet Terrorist, Mass sock puppeteer, Agent provocateur, Gutter rat,
Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, BaStarD hacker, Resident evil, Monkey Boy,
Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,
the SCOURGE, l33t p00h d3 tr0ll, p00h == lam3r, p00h == tr0ll, troll infâme,
the OVERCAT [The BEARPAIR are dead, and we are its murderers], lowlife troll,
shyster [pending approval by STATE_TERROR], cripple, sociopath, kook,
smug prick, smartarse, arsehole, moron, idiot, imbecile, snittish scumbag,
and a liar.

Honorary SHYSTER and FRAUD awarded for services to Haberdashery.
By Appointment to God Frank-Lin.
 
P

Paul

Eddie said:
I wonder if they really use the NIC address because that can be
trivially easily spoofed with freeware...

I looked at their privacy statement, and it didn't say:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609
This is the only article I have on Activation.

http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm

The MAC is stored in hardware somewhere, which is where
the computer gets the value when booted for the first
time. Some motherboards, the BIOS flasher has a
command line option to change the value, but not
all motherboards do that. My NVidia Nforce2 based
motherboard, is the only one I have where the MAC
can be changed via the BIOS flasher. And retail
motherboards, sometimes have a sticker with the MAC
printed on it, in case the hardware value ever needs
to be corrected (by say, the factory).

Not many boards, allow this sort of thing...

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20080226233500937&board_id=1&model=A7V8X-X&page=1&count=17

This topic doesn't seem to be documented very
well, and perhaps that is on purpose.

Paul
 
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Anonymous

Paul said:
This is the only article I have on Activation.

http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
Interesting reference. The author died quite some time ago:-

Alex Nichol — 1935-2005 (AumHa Author/Contributor)

ENGLAND. “I started using computers as a postgrad student at Cambridge
University — not quite before Bill Gates was born, but pretty near it.
Among other things, I ran the Computer Service at Bath University in the
’70s. Until I damaged a leg a couple of years back, I did a lot of
off-shore sailing across the English Channel, round into the Bay of
Biscay. I got into helping in the newsgroups after early retirement ten
years ago, and one thing led to another. In 2002-03 I apparently made
14,400 posts to the Microsoft newsgroups. Help! — where’s that life?â€

http://aumha.org/vsop.htm
 
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richard

The license says they collect the IP address (and other stuff):
http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows_7 Ultimate_English_6d4624d7-f664-455e-9a08-433223886d7e.pdf

4. MANDATORY ACTIVATION.
During activation, the software will send information about the
software and the computer to Microsoft. This information includes the
version, language and product key of the software, the Internet
protocol address of the computer, and information derived from the
hardware configuration of the computer.

For more information, see go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609.

When I went to that URL, it didn't say *anything* useful to
clarify if the MAC addresses (ethernet & wireless & bluetooth) are
sent or not.
tha'ts because they don't want you to know EXACTLY what all information is
being gathered and sent to M$. If they did that, that could opne them up to
lawsuits by the gazillions for invasion of privacy.
Who knows? They might even be cloning your drives.

I"ve always wondered though, with a few trillion computers online, what are
the odds that no two ever have the same mac address?

Knowing the IP only helps them to know where in the world you are.
The IP itself does not identify your precise location.
 

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