Cannot format a DVD+R

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Buffalo, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. Buffalo

    Buffalo Guest

    Trying to backup a friend's new Compaq 62-210US laptop with 7 Home Premium
    64bit and the (4x) DVD +R's will not format. On my Win2000Pro machine the
    disks work just fine. I have ruined over 5 disks trying.
    Any ideas ?
    I have checked for the latest drivers, latest MS updates, uninstalled and
    reiistalled the drive to no avail.
    The DVDRW drive is an HP CDDVDW TS-L633N. I have tried using the Win Live
    format and also the Mastered format. I have waited up to 40 min for it to
    happen and then I had to either eject the DVD or go into Task Manager to
    stop the formatting process.
    Then, the DVD could not be used in my own machine either.
    I could not end it otherwise.
    Thanks for some thoughts and the solution.
    Buffalo
     
    Buffalo, Aug 25, 2010
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  2. Buffalo

    Sunny Guest

    You can only "format" a "DVD+R Rewritable" disk, (using Packet Writing
    software), not a DVD+R

    R = Write Once. Data can only be written to the disc once. Data recorded
    on the disc cannot be erased or overwritten. Depending on the CD burning
    software used, data can be added in multiple sessions to the disc until
    the disc is full. Playable on most current DVD players if recorded as a
    DVD-Video disc.

    RW – Rewritable. Data written on the disc can be erased or over-written
    multiple times. It can be used the same way as an R disc. However with
    packet writing software the disc can be formatted so that it can be used
    in the same way as a floppy disc. Playable on most current DVD players if
    recorded as a DVD-Video disc.
     
    Sunny, Aug 25, 2010
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  3. Buffalo

    Seth Guest


    Yeah, stop trying to format a "write once" disk. You don't format "R", only
    "RW".
     
    Seth, Aug 25, 2010
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  4. Buffalo

    Dick Mahar Guest

    ONLY rewriteable discs can be formatted!!!!!!!

     
    Dick Mahar, Aug 25, 2010
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  5. Buffalo

    Buffalo Guest

    Thanks for the replies. The computer tries to format them when I use the
    Backup feature in the "Bsckup and Restore" feature (and letting Windows
    choose what to backup) while using a DVD +R disk.
    It then asks "Are you sure you want to format this media" and (DVD RW Drive
    (F:)"
    "The media needs to be formatted before it can be used. Formatting will
    completely erase all data on the media."

    1)If I choose Format, then it stays on forever and ruins the disc
    2)If I choose Cancel, then it cancels

    I have tried around 7 new DVD+Rs and all it does is end up making them
    unusable while trying to format them.


    How do I set it up so that it doesn't do that?

    I even tried to just copy some files & folders to another DVD +R and after
    it copied them it tried to finalize the disk and again it failed.
    Does this sound like a hardware failure, a software failure, or just an
    operator failure? :)

    I read the help files on this and it says to select Burn Files to Disc using
    Windows Explorer and then either choose how I want to use this disc.
    1)Like a USB Flash drive: Live File System
    or
    2)With a CD/DVD Player: Mastered

    Thanks,
    Buffalo
     
    Buffalo, Aug 25, 2010
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  6. What do you have against DVD-RW?
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Aug 25, 2010
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  7. What do you have against DVD+RW?
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Aug 25, 2010
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  8. Buffalo

    Gordon Guest

    I didn't think that the built-in Windows backup feature was able to use
    a writable DVD....certainly the prior versions couldn't.
    Try making the backup to your HDD and then burning the file to a DVD
    using Windows Explorer or a third-party burning application...
     
    Gordon, Aug 25, 2010
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  9. Get one of the free applications, such as CDBurnerXP (that's the one I use;
    there are others) and kiss your troubles goodbye. At least, that's been my
    experience.

    To answer Crash Dummy's question: what I have against RWs is that when I
    used CD and DVD RWs for backup, I found that the disks would fail after a
    few, maybe 10, reuses. Of course, they're OK up to that point :)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Aug 25, 2010
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  10. Buffalo

    Buffalo Guest

    Nothing at this time, but I have a bunch of DVD+Rs right now.
    Do they not work with Win7 Home Premium or is it just this laptop or ?
    Thanks
    Buffalo
     
    Buffalo, Aug 25, 2010
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  11. Buffalo

    Buffalo Guest

    Sounds like a good idea. I will try that and report back.
    Windows Backup lets me choose the DVD drive and it also states, in the help
    section, that I could use an UDB drive or a DVD for backup.
    Thanks
    Buffalo
     
    Buffalo, Aug 25, 2010
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  12. Buffalo

    Buffalo Guest

    Whoops, of course I meant an USB drive. :(
    Buffalo
     
    Buffalo, Aug 25, 2010
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  13. I've never had that problem, but I don't use DVD's for backup. I use an
    external drive. For long term storage, a remote site. I use rewritable
    DVD's for file and image storage, though, and never had any lost data
    problems.
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Aug 25, 2010
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  14. Buffalo

    Char Jackson Guest

    DVD+R's work fine with Windows 7. To see if they work with your
    laptop, check the laptop's specs, but chances are very nearly 100%
    that they work fine with your laptop. So that leaves the application
    you're using, and of course the possibility of user error.
     
    Char Jackson, Aug 26, 2010
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  15. Because of the problems I had, and because USB hard drives got pretty
    cheap, I gave up on DVDs & CDs maybe 5 years ago. It wouldn't surprise me
    if the disks and drives are better today. And for all I know I was using
    cheap RW disks (I just don't remember any more).
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Aug 26, 2010
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  16. I believe the DVD+R's work fine for general file saving, it is only when
    you try to use them with the Windows Backup program that problems arise.
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Aug 26, 2010
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  17. Buffalo

    Char Jackson Guest

    In that case, the fault lies with the brain dead application, and my
    advice would be to use a different backup app, (there are many, some
    of which are free), or to save the backup to different media such as a
    hard drive. Once saved, it can still be burned to DVD's, if desired.
     
    Char Jackson, Aug 26, 2010
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  18. Buffalo

    Nil Guest

    It's not a question of whether they work with Win7 or not, or with the
    laptop or not. It's a question of what kinds of disk the optical drive
    itself will support. Some take +Rs, some take -Rs, some take both. You
    have to look at the drive's specs.

    There are many online essays about the differences between the discs
    themselves:

    <http://www.google.com/search?q=dvd+r+vs+dvd-r>
     
    Nil, Aug 26, 2010
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  19. Buffalo

    Buffalo Guest

    Thanks,
    The optical drive is supposed to take this kind of DVD.
    Buffalo
    PS: I can't even burn a simple data disk with this computer and look at it
    on the same or on another computer.
    I cab see (visually) that something was recorded, but the computer(s) read
    the disk as empty or needing to be formated
    Damn, I thought Win7 was supposed to make things simpler and more operator
    friendly.
    Buffalo
     
    Buffalo, Aug 26, 2010
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  20. What you wrote there is a typical result of not finalizing the disk, which
    is usually done during the burn process. I.e., *before* you start the burn,
    you tell the software whether or not to finalize the disk.

    But there is this caveat: it *should* still be readable on the same
    computer if you use the program that wrote it.
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Aug 26, 2010
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