Cannot delete old restore points

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by walter, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. I knew that; Rob didn't...
    Gene E. Bloch, Mar 3, 2013
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  2. I see you forgot that you plonked me.
    Gene E. Bloch, Mar 3, 2013
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  3. Thanks for the info that you tracked down.

    One interesting thing is that I have never used Windows's Backup
    program, at list not knowingly. Maybe it is a tool some other program
    used without my knowledge. Of course I'm assuming that these restore
    points are related to Backup - but maybe they're not.

    I agree with the posters who say to leave it alone, at least until I'm
    ready to break my system :)
    Gene E. Bloch, Mar 3, 2013
  4. walter

    Ed Cryer Guest

    My reasoning goes like this;
    1. The natural solution seems to be; turn sys restore off, delete
    catalogue files, turn back on and it should create new empty ones.
    2. We've tried turning on/off but they're still there.
    3. No option to delete from list.
    4. This system's behaviour is counter-intuitive. Woe betide anyone who
    tries an intuitive hack on it.

    Ed Cryer, Mar 3, 2013
  5. walter

    Dave-UK Guest

    What I find unusual is that I don't use Windows Backup to back up files.
    I keep System Restore active in case I ever need it and I make a system
    image once in a while to an external drive.
    These 'backup' files I've got are only 60k ~ 80k in size and they seem to
    have been made on a regular basis.
    Also, inside some of the files are references to things I've never used, like
    a Brother printer, or a Gestetner printer.
    They're not XML format as the only way I can read anything inside them
    is with a hex editor. Although the are labelled as type Backup I think they
    are something to do with restore points.
    As a test I've tried to delete one of the files but I can't do it using Windows.
    No matter how I fiddle around with permissions I can't delete, rename or
    move it. Interestingly, I can delete the contents with a hex editor and it will
    save the changes but the file stays put.
    I can't let this go so I'm now downloading a copy of Puppy Linux to see if
    I can delete a file and see if it gets removed from the restore point list.
    Dave-UK, Mar 4, 2013
  6. walter

    Dave-UK Guest

    Well, I've tried to run two linux live cds on this machine and they both
    hang during boot-up with the message:

    Recognizing media devices ...optical input..._

    So I guess linux has some sort of problem with my dvd drive even though
    it's booting from it. The cds boot ok in my laptop.
    So I'm giving up with this and will ignore the extra restore point entries.
    Dave-UK, Mar 4, 2013
  7. walter

    Paul Guest

    The hits I could find on that message, suggest adding "edd=off" to the
    Puppy boot command line kernel boot options.

    The picture here, shows your opportunity to add kernel parameters at boot.


    As for what "Enhanced Disk Drive Services" are, I can find a ref here.

    "To support even larger addressing modes, an interface known as
    INT 13h Extensions was introduced by Western Digital and Phoenix
    Technologies as part of BIOS Enhanced Disk Drive Services."

    So the problem could be related in some way, to INT 0x13.

    Paul, Mar 4, 2013
  8. walter

    Dave-UK Guest

    Thanks for that. I might play around with Puppy a bit more as there are
    a couple of option screens, F2 and F3 on boot up.
    But I'm not really bothered too much about Linux as it's not really for me.
    I like thinks to work first time ! :)
    Dave-UK, Mar 4, 2013
  9. walter


    Jan 15, 2016
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    I can confirm that deleting the relevant files from \SPPMetadataCache eliminates phantom restore points. To access the files I booted into Parted Magic and backed them up (SPPMetadataCache.tar.gz) before deletion.
    BSoD95, Jan 15, 2016
  10. walter


    Mar 24, 2016
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    FYI, the freebie "Long Path Tool" program has always worked for me. It allows you to delete, rename, or move files and folders.
    hunterwyatt, Mar 24, 2016
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