Windows 7 OEM installation on another computer

[FD]

Most of my desktop purchases have been custom assembled and I would use OEM
version of Windows.

Recently I have done fresh installation using Keys of XP computers that
I had discarded.
The activation proceeded without a hitch.

Here is my new scenario

I need a small computer for my lab. I need XP installed before I can
install the other software. (acer)

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1419534&CatId=4929

I have ordered a small form factor PC with Windows 7 professional. The
moment I get
the computer delivered I am going to wipe out windows 7 and install XP
with some
of the keys from discarded computers.


I do have a recently purchased assembled computer with the right specs
for windows 7

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_124&item_id=039772

I have installed xp for my business.

Could I TRY to install windows 7 professional OEM version with the keys
from the the ACER which will have XP and will it get activated?

FD
I

 

[Wolf K]

Most of my desktop purchases have been custom assembled and I would use OEM
version of Windows.
[snip back-story]
Could I TRY to install windows 7 professional OEM version with the keys
from the the ACER which will have XP and will it get activated?

FD
I

MS provides information on moving Windows to new hardware:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/249694

HTH
Wolf K.

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

Most of my desktop purchases have been custom assembled and I would use OEM
version of Windows.

Recently I have done fresh installation using Keys of XP computers that
I had discarded.
The activation proceeded without a hitch.

Here is my new scenario

I need a small computer for my lab. I need XP installed before I can
install the other software. (acer)

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1419534&CatId=4929


I have ordered a small form factor PC with Windows 7 professional. The
moment I get
the computer delivered I am going to wipe out windows 7 and install XP
with some
of the keys from discarded computers.


I do have a recently purchased assembled computer with the right specs
for windows 7

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_124&item_id=039772

I have installed xp for my business.

Could I TRY to install windows 7 professional OEM version with the keys
from the the ACER which will have XP and will it get activated?

FD
I

Can you swap hdd's between the recently assm. comp and the Acer?

 

[FD]

Can you swap hdd's between the recently assm. comp and the Acer?

Yes!

The scenario could work like this.

I presume the Acer windows professional will be activated before is arrives
from Tiger Direct. The hard disks serial number would be associated
with the Acer keys.

I could move the hard disk from Acer to the assembled computer (CC)
and do a
fresh installation of the Windows 7 professional on the assembled
computer using
Acer keys.

We use a dos billing program and plan to continue using it for the next
6 years.

I presume it should work in Windows 7 professional xp mode.

I have noted that Microsoft has become VERY FORGIVING in Windows XP
activation
and the the presumed 90 days appears not to apply.


FD

 

[Muad'Dib]

Microsoft has given up on Windows XP and to avoid any further
litigations, M$ is supposed to release a final patch before April 2014
so that people don't have to activate their system should they decide to
continue using the system after April 2014. The activation servers will
be closed down on 8th April 2014 and so unless a patch is released,
people won't be able to re-install and activate XP on their system.

hth

The fact that they ever extended support to 2014 for XP was unexpected
at best. Says something to the rumbelings of Vista, now Win 7 in the
first place. ..And the fact they needed to compete, and naturally
overtake the Netbook market to fill their egos and pocketbooks at the
time. It was always known that they would cease support sometime in
20104 after the obvious announcement. Still, 2014 is a ways away, so
there isn't any urgent need to get all excited here in 2011, is there?
Nearing the end of 2013 would mark a need to get excited I would say.
Never-the-less, lets all get to the "patch" right now or suffer the
consequences. LOL ..Um in two years that is... Doom-sayers, ya gotta
love 'em right? NOT! ..Not only that, but by 2014, things could be waay,
different where Win XP and anything like it is sooo yesterday! LOL! Get
a clue eh? More like STFU and follow the times. Why would it matter if
you could activate XP or not once it expires? Good Greif PLEASE get a
clue before posting.

G'day

 

[Muad'Dib]

Microsoft has given up on Windows XP and to avoid any further
litigations, M$ is supposed to release a final patch before April 2014
so that people don't have to activate their system should they decide to
continue using the system after April 2014. The activation servers will
be closed down on 8th April 2014 and so unless a patch is released,
people won't be able to re-install and activate XP on their system.

hth

The fact that they ever extended support to 2014 for XP was unexpected
at best. Says something to the rumbelings of Vista, now Win 7 in the
first place. ..And the fact they needed to compete, and naturally
overtake the Netbook market to fill their egos and pocketbooks at the
time. It was always known that they would cease support sometime in
20104 after the obvious announcement. Still, 2014 is a ways away, so
there isn't any urgent need to get all excited here in 2011, is there?
Nearing the end of 2013 would mark a need to get excited I would say.
Never-the-less, lets all get to the "patch" right now or suffer the
consequences. LOL ..Um in two years that is... Doom-sayers, ya gotta
love 'em right? NOT! ..Not only that, but by 2014, things could be waay,
different where Win XP and anything like it is sooo yesterday! LOL! Get
a clue eh? More like STFU and follow the times. Why would it matter if
you could activate XP or not once it expires? Good Greif PLEASE get a
clue before posting.

G'day

 

[John Ferrell]

FWIW, The new Motherboards I have looked at lately seem to all have a
disclaimer that they will not run XP.

May be that I misunderstand?

Most of my desktop purchases have been custom assembled and I would use OEM
version of Windows.

Recently I have done fresh installation using Keys of XP computers that
I had discarded.
The activation proceeded without a hitch.

Here is my new scenario

I need a small computer for my lab. I need XP installed before I can
install the other software. (acer)

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1419534&CatId=4929

I have ordered a small form factor PC with Windows 7 professional. The
moment I get
the computer delivered I am going to wipe out windows 7 and install XP
with some
of the keys from discarded computers.


I do have a recently purchased assembled computer with the right specs
for windows 7

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_124&item_id=039772

I have installed xp for my business.

Could I TRY to install windows 7 professional OEM version with the keys
from the the ACER which will have XP and will it get activated?

FD
I

John Ferrell W8CCW

 

[Char Jackson]

FWIW, The new Motherboards I have looked at lately seem to all have a
disclaimer that they will not run XP.

May be that I misunderstand?

Can you provide an example?

 

[Tester]

Can you provide an example?

They have stopped making XP drivers for new motherboards and so you may
have problems getting the best out of your new MoBo.

 

[Paul]

FWIW, The new Motherboards I have looked at lately seem to all have a
disclaimer that they will not run XP.

May be that I misunderstand?

This is a statement about the easy availability of drivers for
the hardware on the motherboard.

It's a warning, to do your research *before* purchasing it.

Paul

 

[FD]

My main reason for starting this thread was that we are using 2 dos
based programs in
my practise.

I plan to retire in 6 years and we want to continue using these programs.

I was wondering what would happen when support for win xp ends.

We need full screen for dos programs.

Googling around I read that DOS support will be built into windows 8 so
I should stop
worrying

FD

 

[Nil]

Googling around I read that DOS support will be built into windows
8 so I should stop worrying

But does it specifically mention *full screen* DOS support? I would
doubt it, since neither Vista nor Windows 7 have it. If that's a
requirement for you, you may still have an issue about Windows 8.

 

[John Ferrell]

Can you provide an example?

Sorry, I don't have time at the moment. The warning is always buried
in the fine print.

The hardware folks don't tell us enough to be self sufficient and
write our own drivers. I don't know how the Linux community deals with
the problem.

It may work well enough to satisfy your needs. I have two ASUS A7N8X
MB's with Expensive AGP 8 video cards that I am not ready to part
with. As far as I can tell that means I stick with XPPRO indefinately.
I was pleased to see that my DM44 Audio card had a driver when I
installed it in a Win 7 machine. Don't count on XP drivers working for
you on Win 7 machines and don't expect Win 7 to handle devices that
were intended for XP.

BTW, IDE hard drives are getting expensive & hard to find. If your XP
machine won't boot and ATA HDD now is the time to decide what you are
going to do when the IDE HDD dies. I seem to be dealing with local IDE
epidemic the past couple of weeks.

I had a network adapter die in an XP machine last week. I picked an
old DLINK USB WIRELESS out of my stock to get it operational. It only
has XP driver available. I might as well just leave it there
permanently and see if I can find a cheap one that has more drivers
for service work.


BTW, I don't do this service work for a living. When you retire you
become the local IT guy to Family & Friends!
John Ferrell W8CCW

 

[Paul]

Sorry, I don't have time at the moment. The warning is always buried
in the fine print.

The hardware folks don't tell us enough to be self sufficient and
write our own drivers. I don't know how the Linux community deals with
the problem.

It may work well enough to satisfy your needs. I have two ASUS A7N8X
MB's with Expensive AGP 8 video cards that I am not ready to part
with. As far as I can tell that means I stick with XPPRO indefinately.
I was pleased to see that my DM44 Audio card had a driver when I
installed it in a Win 7 machine. Don't count on XP drivers working for
you on Win 7 machines and don't expect Win 7 to handle devices that
were intended for XP.

BTW, IDE hard drives are getting expensive & hard to find. If your XP
machine won't boot and ATA HDD now is the time to decide what you are
going to do when the IDE HDD dies. I seem to be dealing with local IDE
epidemic the past couple of weeks.

I had a network adapter die in an XP machine last week. I picked an
old DLINK USB WIRELESS out of my stock to get it operational. It only
has XP driver available. I might as well just leave it there
permanently and see if I can find a cheap one that has more drivers
for service work.


BTW, I don't do this service work for a living. When you retire you
become the local IT guy to Family & Friends!
John Ferrell W8CCW

Generally, NDIS support on NIC components, is pretty good. It usually
spans a wider range of OSes, than motherboard chipset support does. It could
be, that your DLINK is old enough, that they wouldn't be writing new drivers
for it forever (if launched in WinXP era, it might not have Vista or Win7
drivers). But if you were to buy a NIC component today, there could well
be support for a number of OSes.

As for the chipsets, when you have a serious need, and a candidate
motherboard, post back, and maybe we can find drivers for it. To
stay on topic, if it's WinXP drivers, you can ask in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general or microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
or the like.

Even if a motherboard BIOS was "forced" into AHCI mode, the motherboard
had no floppy, you could still slipstream AHCI drivers into a new WinXP
installer CD, and install that way. While there could be roadblocks to
success, there are also ways to get there.

Paul

 

[FD]

But does it specifically mention *full screen* DOS support? I would
doubt it, since neither Vista nor Windows 7 have it. If that's a
requirement for you, you may still have an issue about Windows 8.

I hope it is full screen

http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-comes-with-built-in-16-bit-application-support/


FD

 

[Ant]

Use DOSbox no matter what: http://www.dosbox.com/ ...

My main reason for starting this thread was that we are using 2 dos
based programs in
my practise.

I plan to retire in 6 years and we want to continue using these programs.

I was wondering what would happen when support for win xp ends.

We need full screen for dos programs.

Googling around I read that DOS support will be built into windows 8 so
I should stop
worrying

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[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

I hope it is full screen

http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-comes-with-built-in-16-bit-application-support/

Seems unlikely since we haven't had that ability since Vista. Also
note that it will only be available in the 32-bit versions of Windows.
You will probably have better luck with a virtual machine.

 

[FD]

Seems unlikely since we haven't had that ability since Vista. Also
note that it will only be available in the 32-bit versions of Windows.
You will probably have better luck with a virtual machine.

I installed Windows 8 32 bit Developer edition an hour ago and ran a dos
program.

It ran only in a window!

I am beginning to believe that Dosbox will be worth exploring.

Using windows professional with xp mode will expose my system to viruses
and other
threats. I may even consider Mint with Wine for this one computer that
I need
dos badly.. I have 2 1/2 years to figure out what I will do!

FD


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