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Gene E. Bloch

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message


Ah.
BTW, I would call it a bug in the newsreader. Parentheses are not legal
characters in a URL (I checked with Wikipedia, just to be sure), so the
newsreader ought to see it as a delimiter.

As a further check, I opened mechanic's post in MesNews. MesNews had no
trouble with the link; it ignored the ')'.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Then you won't mind explaining why Wikipedia's own pages include ones
with URLs like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_(book)

(Paste that line into Firefox's address bar if you don't believe me.)
In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_resource_locator

Wikipedia says this about which characters are reserved:

<QUOTE>
Reserved

Have to be encoded sometimes

! * ' ( ) ; : @ & = + $ , / ? % # [ ]
</QUOTE>

What's fun is that clicking on your URL works in both Dialog and
MesNews, but MesNews throws away "(book)", and FF or somebody throws
away the trailing underscore.

Maybe all that is needed is to avoid any balanced parentheses.

No, it's not that simple. For example,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_(bo

gets me to the page, but if I copy and paste from the address bar, this
is what I get:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_(bo

even though I see a parenthesis in the address bar even after I get to
the site.

Someone is looking over my shoulder and fixing the errors as I go along.

And that made me copy the good URL (with parens) from the address bar.
Look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_(book)

Someone (apparently not you) seems to think that parens are illegal.

And this seems to be what Dialog sends to FF from mechanic's post - or
maybe FF converts it before trying to connect:

http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/)

This much is clear: the neosmart link includes the ')' when Dialog sends
it, but not when MesNews sends it (I can see that by the way the links
are highlighted in those two programs), thus the 404 from Dialog.

I'm guessing that Wikipedia has some code to parse the shortened links
that I tried.

And it still looks like parentheses aren't legal. I don't know where
they get replaced by the hex encoding, but I bet it's FF.

But again, it's not all that clear. I tried IE; it gets to your link,
and it doesn't show the hex codes when I copy and paste from the address
bar. My guess: it also sends the encoded parens, but unlike FF, it keeps
it a secret from me.

While I was at it, I tried Chrome and Safari. They act like IE.

What is really needed is a URL where the parentheses are in the
higher-level part of the address, between the '//' and the first '/',
since AIUI the remaining parts of the URL are parsed by the site, not by
the DNS. This would be consistent with one link producing a 404 and the
other working fine.

Since I'm no expert[1], I'll now quit speculating on this issue.

[1] This claim provided courtesy of the Department of Extreme
Understatement
 
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Gene E. Bloch

What is really needed is a URL where the parentheses are in the
higher-level part of the address, between the '//' and the first '/',
since AIUI the remaining parts of the URL are parsed by the site, not by
the DNS. This would be consistent with one link producing a 404 and the
other working fine.
Not speculating, just experimenting.

In FF, I tried this corruption of your URL:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The Lost (book)

i.e. I replaced the underscores by spaces. I got to the same page as
before, but this time I happened to notice this comment on the Wikipedia
page:

<QUOTE>
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from The Lost (book))
</QUOTE>

Then I clicked on the link in your post, and the above comment appeared
in that case as well. I also looked at the other browsers (their windows
being still open), and they too had that message. But those three
browsers are not playing well with some of the other games I played with
the URL.

This definitely seems to support my speculation about where the link is
parsed.

One more thing. In your post, you said

<QUOTE>
Then you won't mind explaining why Wikipedia's own pages include ones
with URLs like this: ...
</QUOTE>

Guess what? I did explain it and I didn't mind doing it.
 
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stones

Not speculating, just experimenting.
[snip lots]

The upshot, though, is that a URL with parentheses can work if copied and
pasted, or clicked on, from a newspost. So, the suggestion that a news
reader can safely assume that a close parenthesis is not part of a URL
seems to be wrong. The link I posted would have been damaged by removing
the close parenthesis at its end, in particular, and seems to work with
it.
 
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Robert Baer

BeeJ said:
Looking for the latest info from you on dual boot Win7 pro and WinXP pro

Laptop
HD partitioned into three. Win7, XP and data.
Win7 pro installed and backed up with Macrium Reflect.

now, how do I go about installing Win XP on the XP partition and set up
dual boot? XP pro DVD is configured for this laptop and could be
installed as the only OS.
Simple. FIRST install Win XP, then install Win7 which will allow you
to place it in the "next" partition, leaving the third MT.
You will then see a boot menu to select the OS you want to use.
I have a HD with Win2K, two "versions" of Win7,and a data partition;
the boot menu allows me to select any one of the three.
 
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Lemon

Looking for the latest info from you on dual boot Win7 pro and WinXP pro

Laptop
HD partitioned into three. Win7, XP and data.
Win7 pro installed and backed up with Macrium Reflect.

now, how do I go about installing Win XP on the XP partition and set up
dual boot? XP pro DVD is configured for this laptop and could be
installed as the only OS.
There's a whole bunch of ways to do what you want to do there. Read up.

That said, I use a utility named "Bootpart" and the switching around of
the active partition to do that sort of thing. Other people will have
their favourite ways .. and there are a number.

One caveat, no, two:

1. Do not install two versions of Windows on the one and the same
partition (I realize that is not your plan, I'm just saying it).

and

2. Before messing with things, use Windows 7's Backup and Restore
utility (found in Control Panel) to make a system image to an external
harddrive. That way, if you need to, you can have your old setup back
with in a few minutes.

Lemon
 

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