Different command prompt commands.

[Robin Bignall]

If you open a command prompt in installed W7, and enter 'Help', you get
a list of available commands.
If you boot from the install disk or a repair disk, choose 'system
repair' and click on the final item, a command prompt, 'Help' or 'Help
/?' or any other combination tells you that 'help' is not a recognised
command. There seems to be no way to find what commands work in the
system repair environment, and how to use them.

With my recent system problems this lack of help has driven me nuts.

 

[Ed Cryer]

If you open a command prompt in installed W7, and enter 'Help', you get
a list of available commands.
If you boot from the install disk or a repair disk, choose 'system
repair' and click on the final item, a command prompt, 'Help' or 'Help
/?' or any other combination tells you that 'help' is not a recognised
command. There seems to be no way to find what commands work in the
system repair environment, and how to use them.

With my recent system problems this lack of help has driven me nuts.

Yes, I see your point after trying it.
Inside Windows the version of DOS used contains "help".
They've left it out of the Repair disk; probably to save room.

Ed

 

[Dave-UK]

Yes, I see your point after trying it.
Inside Windows the version of DOS used contains "help".
They've left it out of the Repair disk; probably to save room.

Ed

If you boot from a rescue disk with Explorer running and run
cmd.exe the help command works.
So maybe it's got something to do with having Explorer running.

 

[Robin Bignall]

If you boot from a rescue disk with Explorer running and run
cmd.exe the help command works.
So maybe it's got something to do with having Explorer running.

How do you boot with explorer running? A boot is a boot. You get what
you booted into.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

How do you boot with explorer running? A boot is a boot. You get what
you booted into.

I have translated Dave's advice into "once you've booted the repair
disk, run cmd.exe from the command line".

That's just a thought, I don't want to try to verify it. It's either
lack of courage or lack of enthusiasms for that experiment, I'm not sure
which of those applies to me

 

[Paul]

I have translated Dave's advice into "once you've booted the repair
disk, run cmd.exe from the command line".

That's just a thought, I don't want to try to verify it. It's either
lack of courage or lack of enthusiasms for that experiment, I'm not sure
which of those applies to me

Gene, you don't have to be a "fraidy-cat". I already
tried booting to the recovery console - in a virtual
machine. Set yourself up a VM environment, and you
can boot all the ugly DVDs or CDs you want, safely,
without harming the host system. (You were probably
already running VirtualBox, and you could do it in
there.)

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3505/win7vm.gif

I didn't get "help" to work for me, either.

Paul

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Gene, you don't have to be a "fraidy-cat". I already
tried booting to the recovery console - in a virtual
machine. Set yourself up a VM environment, and you
can boot all the ugly DVDs or CDs you want, safely,
without harming the host system. (You were probably
already running VirtualBox, and you could do it in
there.)

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3505/win7vm.gif

I didn't get "help" to work for me, either.

Paul

Do note the emoticon...

Anyway, for me the real advantage of booting into a virtual environment
in this situation would be that I wouldn't have to shut down the host,
so that I would have to remember later what I was doing before the
experiment

I have VirtualBox, Windows VirtualPC, and VMware. The only one I
actually use is VMware, but I have drifted away from the software that I
was running under XP, so I don't even do VMware any more.

I have also installed the Windows 8 prerelease version (whatever it's
called) into VMware, but I wasn't interested enough to run it a second
time.

All that said, I must admit that I hadn't thought of your VM idea...so
thanks for that.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Do note the emoticon...

Anyway, for me the real advantage of booting into a virtual environment
in this situation would be that I wouldn't have to shut down the host,
so that I would have to remember later what I was doing before the
experiment

I have VirtualBox, Windows VirtualPC, and VMware. The only one I
actually use is VMware, but I have drifted away from the software that I
was running under XP, so I don't even do VMware any more.

I have also installed the Windows 8 prerelease version (whatever it's
called) into VMware, but I wasn't interested enough to run it a second
time.

All that said, I must admit that I hadn't thought of your VM idea...so
thanks for that.

I looked. I have the Windows 8 Release Preview installed both in VMware
and VirtualBox. I seem to think that VMware's machine is more
responsive, but I didn't spend a lot of time with them.

Maybe I'll play with it again. Or not - but not tonight, Dear.

 

[Paul]

I have also installed the Windows 8 prerelease version (whatever it's
called) into VMware, but I wasn't interested enough to run it a second
time.

I've given up on using a VM for that. I noticed that the limitations
of the graphics emulation, prevent some things from working. And then
there's a danger you don't get the "whole Windows 8 experience", whatever
that is. I've set up a real disk for that, but it's unplugged
at the moment. I still have my "programs won't run right in Windows 8,
unless I set the priority to above normal" problem in there, which is
why I'm less enamored with Windows 8 now. If I ever plug it in
again, I'm going to have to uninstall stuff, until that bug goes
away.

Paul

 

[G. Morgan]

If you open a command prompt in installed W7, and enter 'Help', you get
a list of available commands.
If you boot from the install disk or a repair disk, choose 'system
repair' and click on the final item, a command prompt, 'Help' or 'Help
/?' or any other combination tells you that 'help' is not a recognised
command. There seems to be no way to find what commands work in the
system repair environment, and how to use them.

With my recent system problems this lack of help has driven me nuts.

Try Powershell.exe

It's in: %Windows%System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0

 

[G. Morgan]

I've given up on using a VM for that. I noticed that the limitations
of the graphics emulation, prevent some things from working. And then
there's a danger you don't get the "whole Windows 8 experience", whatever
that is. I've set up a real disk for that, but it's unplugged
at the moment. I still have my "programs won't run right in Windows 8,
unless I set the priority to above normal" problem in there, which is
why I'm less enamored with Windows 8 now. If I ever plug it in
again, I'm going to have to uninstall stuff, until that bug goes
away.

I installed Win 8 from inside Win 7. All my programs work.

 

[Dave-UK]

How do you boot with explorer running? A boot is a boot. You get what
you booted into.

When I said a rescue disk I didn't mean the repair disk created by Windows.
I meant a Bart PE type of boot disk where you have lots of program options.
I build mine with Winbuilder.
http://win7pe.winbuilder.net/Projects/

 

[Robin Bignall]

When I said a rescue disk I didn't mean the repair disk created by Windows.
I meant a Bart PE type of boot disk where you have lots of program options.
I build mine with Winbuilder.
http://win7pe.winbuilder.net/Projects/

OK, understood.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I've given up on using a VM for that. I noticed that the limitations
of the graphics emulation, prevent some things from working. And then
there's a danger you don't get the "whole Windows 8 experience", whatever
that is. I've set up a real disk for that, but it's unplugged
at the moment. I still have my "programs won't run right in Windows 8,
unless I set the priority to above normal" problem in there, which is
why I'm less enamored with Windows 8 now. If I ever plug it in
again, I'm going to have to uninstall stuff, until that bug goes
away.

Paul

Those are valid concerns, but not for me at this time. I am just
browsing[1] in W8 and not trying to do anything other than get an idea
of what it's like. I.e., I'm not yet a serious user.

[1] In both the Internet sense and the window-shopping[2] sense.

[2] Pun not intended, but I'll keep it

[3] I haven't yet figured out how to shut Windows 8 down. Maybe it's
time to read a manual[4].

[4] Yes, I know, there was no superscript [3] above. Cheating like that
was fun.