cannot copy file from cd thpught I would execute it on the cd.


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scbs29

I am just starting to run Win 7 in VirtualBox under PCLinuxOS.
I want to copy some files from a cd onto the hard disk in VBox.
All of the files copy ok except one. When I try to copy it I receive
a message:
You'll need to provide administrator permissoion to copy this file.
I reply by pressing Continue
The file then seems to start to copy for a while then I receive the
same message again.
This carries on until I cancel.
Since the file is an axecutable I then tried running it on the cd by
double clicking the filename in Windows Explorer,
I the received a message
Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not
have the appropriate permissions to access the item.

Can anyone sdvise ? I am a newbie with Win 7.

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scbs29

I am just starting to run Win 7 in VirtualBox under PCLinuxOS.
I want to copy some files from a cd onto the hard disk in VBox.
All of the files copy ok except one. When I try to copy it I receive
a message:
You'll need to provide administrator permissoion to copy this file.
I reply by pressing Continue
The file then seems to start to copy for a while then I receive the
same message again.
This carries on until I cancel.
Since the file is an axecutable I then tried running it on the cd by
double clicking the filename in Windows Explorer,
I the received a message
Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not
have the appropriate permissions to access the item.

Can anyone sdvise ? I am a newbie with Win 7.

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oops. not sure what happened but the title somehow got corrupted.
should have been Cannot copy file from cd.

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scbs29 said:
oops. not sure what happened but the title somehow got corrupted.
should have been Cannot copy file from cd.

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Would it be where you were copying it that matters ?

Try copying it to /home/fred/Downloads (i.e. your own Download
folder in File Explorer).

Perhaps you were attempting to copy stuff into "Program Files (x86)" ?
That folder might be owned by TrustedInstaller.

Also, the latest versions of Windows, do *not* like it when you
download directly to C:\ . Putting files under root, is not
appreciated. Stuff that programs attempt to put in their
own Program Files folder, ends up actually stored in a
Roaming folder owned by you. There are a few things they
don't want you doing (Microsoft malware prevention rules).

*******

This is unrelated, but this is how Windows keeps track of executables
which have come into the machine via your browser.

http://www.howtogeek.com/70012/what-causes-the-file-downloaded-from-the-internet-warning-and-how-can-i-easily-remove-it/

Paul
 
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scbs29

Would it be where you were copying it that matters ?

Try copying it to /home/fred/Downloads (i.e. your own Download
folder in File Explorer).

Perhaps you were attempting to copy stuff into "Program Files (x86)" ?
That folder might be owned by TrustedInstaller.

Also, the latest versions of Windows, do *not* like it when you
download directly to C:\ . Putting files under root, is not
appreciated. Stuff that programs attempt to put in their
own Program Files folder, ends up actually stored in a
Roaming folder owned by you. There are a few things they
don't want you doing (Microsoft malware prevention rules).

*******

This is unrelated, but this is how Windows keeps track of executables
which have come into the machine via your browser.

http://www.howtogeek.com/70012/what-causes-the-file-downloaded-from-the-internet-warning-and-how-can-i-easily-remove-it/

Paul
Thanks for the reply.
I tried copying to Downloads, it copied ok and I can run the
executable.

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scbs29

Thanks for the reply.
I tried copying to Downloads, it copied ok and I can run the
executable.

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Oh dear, I spoke too soon.
I did copy the file to Downloads and ran it once.
When I tried to run it again though, it had disappeared from Downloads
and I am unable to copy it again to anywhere.
I have yet another dialog appearing that says
You need permission to perform this action.
You require permission from the computer's administrator to make
changes to this file.
I am running with an administrator account.

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scbs29

snip

You need permission to perform this action.
You require permission from the computer's administrator to make
changes to this file.
I am running with an administrator account.

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Perhaps it is because I am actually running a prebuilt virtual machine
of Win 7 enterprise downloaded from
http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools#downloads

Although, I have no problems copying other files and running other
programs.

If it does need 'Permission from the administrator' how can I give
this if I am already running as administrator ?

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scbs29 said:
Perhaps it is because I am actually running a prebuilt virtual machine
of Win 7 enterprise downloaded from
http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools#downloads

Although, I have no problems copying other files and running other
programs.

If it does need 'Permission from the administrator' how can I give
this if I am already running as administrator ?

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OK, so I download one of them. 743,120,093 bytes. File typer
program says it is a PE32 executable, but common sense says it is
a self extracting RAR (like it says on the web page). It is possible
the original file erases itself, after it is run, leaving the
two extracted files. (Some archive formats do that, and rather than
keep track of which ones do, I use another trick instead.)

https://az412801.vo.msecnd.net/vhd/IEKitV1_Final/Virtual_PC/IE6_XP/IE6.WinXP.For.WindowsVPC.exe

To stop that, you install 7-ZIP, and 7-ZIP adds an entry to your
right-click context menu. Version 9.20 is good enough. Even the
alphas and betas are stable enough, to use.

http://www.7-zip.org/

In this case, I right-click the IE6.WinXP.For.WindowsVPC.exe file,
use 7-ZIP : Open Archive and it shows the contents. I can then extract
them into the same folder if I want.

IE6 - WinXP.vhd 1,128,805,888 bytes
IE6 - WinXP.vmc 13,896 bytes

By using 7-ZIP, that avoids any "auto-delete" behaviors
of downloaded archives. As far as I know, it also avoids
the .exe portion of the file from running, as 7-ZIP knows
where the archive starts, and how to decode it. What 7-ZIP
can't open, is the 20+ packers used on executables sometimes.
But a plain executable, without packing, opens fine.

Then, it's a matter of selecting a folder, to move the
..vmc and .vhd files. If using a virtual machine setup, I
have to define a new machine, and then "point" to the two
files. The files should be put some place you'll find them
later.

You can save the IE6.WinXP.For.WindowsVPC.exe for later, and
use the 7ZIP extraction procedure again, if you need a clean
copy of the two files.

There is nothing magic about the .exe files from that site,
except they may be self-extracting .exe files with a habit of
deleting themselves after the job is done. I don't know if
that is what you're seeing or not.

As for permissions, if you were logged in as yourself, and
running an extraction in your own Download folder, there shouldn't have
been a permissions problem. Moving the files into a forbidden
location, will have other symptoms.

Paul
 
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scbs29

snip

have to define a new machine, and then "point" to the two
files. The files should be put some place you'll find them
later.

You can save the IE6.WinXP.For.WindowsVPC.exe for later, and
use the 7ZIP extraction procedure again, if you need a clean
copy of the two files.

There is nothing magic about the .exe files from that site,
except they may be self-extracting .exe files with a habit of
deleting themselves after the job is done. I don't know if
that is what you're seeing or not.

As for permissions, if you were logged in as yourself, and
running an extraction in your own Download folder, there shouldn't have
been a permissions problem. Moving the files into a forbidden
location, will have other symptoms.

Paul
I am sorry, I didnt explain myself properly.

I dual boot with Win XP and PCLinuxOS and am considering changing XP
to 7. I did not want to buy Win 7 and then find that either some of
the programs I use are not compatible or that some of the hardware I
use is not compatible. I have used the upgrade advisor but found the
results a little ambivalent, so when I found out about the virtual
machines I tought that this was a chance to 'try before you buy' since
there appears to be no other way.
I found out about the site I mentioned from the PCLinuxOS magazine.
This is a site where one can obtain legal time limited (90 days ?)
virtual machines of a Windows OS.

From the PCLinuxOS magazine:
Believe it or not, that "evil empire" of Microsoft has just made it
incredibly easy to run Microsoft Windows in a virtual machine ... for
free! Say what?! That's right, and this is no joke. The Internet
Explorer team, in an effort to foster maximum compatibility of
websites across as many versions of Internet Explorer as possible, has
released VirtualBox copies of Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and
Windows 8. Intended for web developers, these fully functional copies
of Windows are available to anyone and everyone.

I fisrt tried Windows 8 but my pc is not compatible, so I then
downloaded a Windows 7 virtual machine to run in VirtualBox under
PCLinuxOS.
The downloaded files are
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part2.rar
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part3.rar
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part4.rar
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part5.rar

The .sfx file is made executable and run. This creates a .ova file
which is loaded into VirtualBox by importing as an appliance.
I now have a version of Windows 7 Enterprise running in a virtual
machine running on PCLinuxOS.
I wanted to install a program from a cd. I tried installing from the
cd but had problems. I then copied the cd contents into a folder on
the desktop in the Win 7 virtual machine. This is when I have the
problem. All files except one, a small executable, copied across
successfully. This last file is the one I am having the trouble with.

I hope this makes things a bit clearer.


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Gene E. Bloch

If it does need 'Permission from the administrator' how can I give
this if I am already running as administrator ?
Common misconception.

*An* administrator account is an account with *some* administrator
privileges, i.e. more than what a standard user has.

*The* Administrator is a special account, one per system, that has much
more access.

Blame Microsoft for confusing terminology.
 
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scbs29 said:
I am sorry, I didnt explain myself properly.

I dual boot with Win XP and PCLinuxOS and am considering changing XP
to 7. I did not want to buy Win 7 and then find that either some of
the programs I use are not compatible or that some of the hardware I
use is not compatible. I have used the upgrade advisor but found the
results a little ambivalent, so when I found out about the virtual
machines I tought that this was a chance to 'try before you buy' since
there appears to be no other way.
I found out about the site I mentioned from the PCLinuxOS magazine.
This is a site where one can obtain legal time limited (90 days ?)
virtual machines of a Windows OS.

From the PCLinuxOS magazine:
Believe it or not, that "evil empire" of Microsoft has just made it
incredibly easy to run Microsoft Windows in a virtual machine ... for
free! Say what?! That's right, and this is no joke. The Internet
Explorer team, in an effort to foster maximum compatibility of
websites across as many versions of Internet Explorer as possible, has
released VirtualBox copies of Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and
Windows 8. Intended for web developers, these fully functional copies
of Windows are available to anyone and everyone.

I fisrt tried Windows 8 but my pc is not compatible, so I then
downloaded a Windows 7 virtual machine to run in VirtualBox under
PCLinuxOS.
The downloaded files are
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part2.rar
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part3.rar
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part4.rar
IE10.Win7.For.LinuxVirtualBox.part5.rar

The .sfx file is made executable and run. This creates a .ova file
which is loaded into VirtualBox by importing as an appliance.
I now have a version of Windows 7 Enterprise running in a virtual
machine running on PCLinuxOS.
I wanted to install a program from a cd. I tried installing from the
cd but had problems. I then copied the cd contents into a folder on
the desktop in the Win 7 virtual machine. This is when I have the
problem. All files except one, a small executable, copied across
successfully. This last file is the one I am having the trouble with.

I hope this makes things a bit clearer.
The Windows 7 in the virtual machine, should not be able to
tell the difference between the virtual CD drive, and a real
CD drive. It should be behaving as it would if running on real
hardware, with a real optical drive. I don't see how it could
be making a fuss about a small .EXE. Unless there was some
AV software or something, present in the guest.

One thing I didn't understand about the thing I was downloading,
is whether it was actually coming from a Microsoft server.
How safe are those Guest images ? I haven't run the one I downloaded
yet. I loaded it in a Linux VM, just so I could look at the
files on there without running them.

*******

What's the name of the program on the CD ? Is the program
known for "high security features" ? Like some kind of tricks ?

There are ways of protecting media, that we can't be sure
they would work properly on a virtual drive. I have no idea
what a "weak sector" is, but it's apparently part of a
copy protection scheme.

http://www.cdrlabs.com/Reviews/asus-sdrw-08d1s-u-8x-usb-20-dvdrw/Features.html

http://www.alexander-noe.com/weaksectors/index-eng.html

*******

If the CD won't copy via the virtual CD, perhaps you could
use a shared folder to communicate between the host and guest.
Copy the files off via the host, into a folder, then share
those with the guest.

Paul
 

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