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Jeff Gaines
You really need to see them in action, if you have any computer stores
near you then go and have a look - one man's meat etc.
near you then go and have a look - one man's meat etc.
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Emrys Davies
A very good question. Sometimes because you think that you have theThip said:
cat's whickers you are reluctant to part with it and you need someone to
convince you that enough is enough. Thanks to all of you in these
supplementary posts I am now convinced that I need a new monitor as well
as a new PC. It justs makes sence. Thanks again.
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Gene E. Bloch
I had to laugh (out loud) when I read johnbee's reply...
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Gene E. Bloch
This is *not* true. Many new computers do not have all the necessary
drivers available for Windows XP.
The manufacturers have chosen not to create and provide them.
You would have to go to the manufacturer's site for the computer in
question and find all the needed drivers, or perhaps even speak to
technical support...
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Ophelia
Oh, go on EmrysJeff Gaines said:
Bite the bullet, you will love it)
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Ophelia
Indeed. My husband did respond to Lange and explain why he didn't think itGene E. Bloch said:
a good idea. He didn't say he couldn't do it. I am pleased now that he
didn't. I am getting more used to 7 by the day and once a few anomolies are
ironed out, I think it will do nicely
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Jeff Layman
What does that have to do with /installing/ XP on a new computer? It mayGene said:
not work with every peripheral, but that would not stop you installing it.
There are many people still using Win98 and ME, never mind XP. XP will do
just about everything the majority needs. It's a bit like Word - 95% of
people will use only 5% of its capabilities - how many people are still
using Word XP happily and have not seen the need to upgrade to 2007?
I'm intrigued. Anything in particular which had been created for Vista and
Win7 and is not available for XP?
Not sure how this ties in with your previous paragraph. But in my
experience, you can get problems by using a Microsoft driver rather than the
OE manufacturer's driver.
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Gene E. Bloch
Some of the drivers relate to the motherboard chipset,hard drive
controllers, and so on.
Not relevant to the problem of setting up on newer hardware.
OK, do some research and tell us. I won't, and I don't remember the
details I've read, so I have no response here.
As I said, not all computers lack drivers, so I mentioned how to find
out if some given computer does have drivers. Clever, no?
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Hugh Jeego
Just go to a Vista machine and copy the folder C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
to your win 7 machine and it works perfectly fine. Done it many times on
different machines and no problems.
to your win 7 machine and it works perfectly fine. Done it many times on
different machines and no problems.
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Hugh Jeego
Absolute bullshit. I dont know about OE because I didnt try it but WindowsBruce Hagen said:
Mail works perfectly with Windows 7. Been there, done that.
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Bruce Hagen
Hugh Jeego said:
If you check my message headers, you will see that I too am using WinMail
in Win7. I based my reply on what seemed to be the best for the OP.
Can you open .eml files in WinMail?
Can you open .nws files in WinMail?
Can you make WinMail the default e-mail client?
Sure you can run WinMail in Win7. You can also run OE if you have XP in a
VPC in Win7.
The OP asked:
IMHO, keeping it simple was suggesting WLMail. (Which I don't really care
for myself). I try to read between the lines of a post.
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KristleBawl
Hugh Jeego expressed an opinion:
shouldn't anyway, because MS has also discontinued it.
Windows Live Mail is available for download from Microsoft.
Also, Thunderbird by Mozilla is updated for Windows 7.
From where could they download WindowsMail? AFAIK, they can't, and
shouldn't anyway, because MS has also discontinued it.
Windows Live Mail is available for download from Microsoft.
Also, Thunderbird by Mozilla is updated for Windows 7.
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Bruce Hagen
KristleBawl said:
I know you replied to Hugh Jeego, but..........
You don't download WinMail, you "borrow" a copy of the program from a
Vista machine. I didn't suggest it because just in the way the OP phrased
his post, I didn't think this was something he would be interested in
getting involved with.
<Canned>
First, you need access to a Vista machine.
On the W7 machine, find the "Windows Mail" folder in Program Files. Rename
it to "OldWindows Mail" as a precaution.
Using a Flash or CD, copy the "Windows Mail" folder in its entirety from
the Vista machine.
Go back to the Win7 machine and copy the "Windows Mail" from the Flash or
CD to a location in Program Files.
Open it and right click on the WinMail.exe file and send a shortcut to the
Desktop. Done.
A few caveats: EML and NWS files will not open in WinMail, but rather
another e-mail client that you will need to have. WinMail also cannot be
made the default mail or news client.
See this as well:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html
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KristleBawl
Bruce Hagen expressed an opinion:
access to someone's Vista, attempting to get a copy of Windows Mail is
not practical.
That's why I simply suggested two options that are easy to find.
Yes, that was my point, and I agree completely. Unless the OP has easy
access to someone's Vista, attempting to get a copy of Windows Mail is
not practical.
That's why I simply suggested two options that are easy to find.
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Hugh Jeego
It constantly asks you to make sure it is the default client which isnt aBruce Hagen said:
problem at all. So what that it does?
As to the rest, works for me on my Win7 machines both trial and full
versions.
About the only problem anyone will REALLY face is if they are trying to run
a 32 bit Windows Mail folder copy in a 64 bit environment even if copied to
the 32 bit folders. Just doesnt work there that I have been able to do so
copy off a 64 bit machine. Other than that it works as it ever did on Vista.
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Hugh Jeego
You dont DOWNLOAD it. To keep this simple, let us say you have a 32 bitKristleBawl said:
Windows 7 of some sort. Go to a 32 bit Vista of some sort, copy the Windows
Mail folder from the Program Files folder to, say a USB stick. Now take that
stick to the 32 bit Win 7 and go to Program files and delete the current
Windows Mail folder. You will need to take possession of the folder because
permissions will restrict you from doing this initially. Easy enough job for
anyone. Then, you copy from the USB stick into that spot and all is well and
works. There is no download from anywhere needed.
Thunderbird is a dead loss. Personally I prefer Outlook 2007.
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Hugh Jeego
You forgot that the Windows Mail folder on the Win7 machine has had
permissions set by Win 7 to disallow you doing this to it. You also need to
take control of that folder by changing permissions which is a dead easy
job.
permissions set by Win 7 to disallow you doing this to it. You also need to
take control of that folder by changing permissions which is a dead easy
job.
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Hugh Jeego
Oh utter bullshit! Anyone can find a Vista machine at a friend's place, atKristleBawl said:
work and do that. Honestly, you aren't tracking down the Holy Grail!
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KristleBawl
Hugh Jeego expressed an opinion:
program with another. Microsoft has discontinued work on both Outlook
Express and Windows Mail.
changed not too long ago. I now use Thunderbird by choice.
You're still advocating replacing one outdated no-longer-supported email
program with another. Microsoft has discontinued work on both Outlook
Express and Windows Mail.
Your personal preference is all that matters. My personal preference has
changed not too long ago. I now use Thunderbird by choice.
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Mortimer
I've found various forums such asHugh Jeego said:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html which suggest
this, but it failed spectacularly on
my dad's new Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit PC.
When I ran WinMail.exe after copying the folder from a Vista Home Premium
32-bit PC, performance decreased rapidly. There was a horrendous memory leak
(Task Manager showed Physical Memory Usage increasing over the space of a
minute or so until it was at 100% on the graph). In the list of processes
there was an ever-increasing number of WinMail.exe *32 processes. As fast as
I killed them, new instances were spawned.
I couldn't even shut the PC down, so I had to resort to the power switch.
:-(
This is a shame because Windows Mail and Outlook Express look so much better
than Windows Live Mail (a real backward step, Microsoft). Why do companies
feel the need to tinker with something that's good and well-respected, and
replace it with something that looks like a toy.