Why do I have to give myself permission to change things?

[Metspitzer]

Under "User Accounts" I am listed as administrator, but I still can't
modify quake3.cfg.

I had given quake3.cfg full access before I could modify it. I found
out from this group that any file in the "program files" directory
would do this. Because I wanted to do more modifying to the quake
folder I made a directory c:\games\quake but I was blocked from
changing the quake3.cfg file.

I am the only one that uses the computer. It seems really really
stupid to have to grant myself permission to do anything.

It would be nice to block programs from making unwanted changes, but I
don't understand why I have to grant myself permission.

 

[Seth]

Under "User Accounts" I am listed as administrator, but I still can't
modify quake3.cfg.

I had given quake3.cfg full access before I could modify it. I found
out from this group that any file in the "program files" directory
would do this. Because I wanted to do more modifying to the quake
folder I made a directory c:\games\quake but I was blocked from
changing the quake3.cfg file.

I am the only one that uses the computer. It seems really really
stupid to have to grant myself permission to do anything.

It would be nice to block programs from making unwanted changes, but I
don't understand why I have to grant myself permission.

Permissions are set a certain way by default for security reasons. You
created a folder off the root, cool. Give yourself full control and you
shouldn't have any more difficulties.

This was setup this way by default for security, not as a personal affront.

 

[Paul]

Under "User Accounts" I am listed as administrator, but I still can't
modify quake3.cfg.

I had given quake3.cfg full access before I could modify it. I found
out from this group that any file in the "program files" directory
would do this. Because I wanted to do more modifying to the quake
folder I made a directory c:\games\quake but I was blocked from
changing the quake3.cfg file.

I am the only one that uses the computer. It seems really really
stupid to have to grant myself permission to do anything.

It would be nice to block programs from making unwanted changes, but I
don't understand why I have to grant myself permission.

It's because some things are owned by Trusted Installer.

http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/windows-7-how-to-delete-files-protected-by-trustedinstaller/

Paul

 

[Big Steel]

Under "User Accounts" I am listed as administrator, but I still can't
modify quake3.cfg.

If UAC is enabled, your user account that Win 7 gives you is not an
admin account that has full admin rights.

This also talks about Win 7.

<http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...idden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/>

It's the same account that's on XP, but your admin account on Win 7
doesn't inherit rights from the account on Win 7 like it does on XP.

You may also have to take Ownership of the directory.

 

[Metspitzer]

It's because some things are owned by Trusted Installer.

http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/windows-7-how-to-delete-files-protected-by-trustedinstaller/

Paul

I just ended up deleting Quake 3. I wasn't really that interested
anyway. My nephew wanted to play.

Thanks

I book marked the link if I ever get in the mood to play Quake3 again.
It was a lot of modifying to get it right in the past.

 

[Metspitzer]

Under "User Accounts" I am listed as administrator, but I still can't
modify quake3.cfg.

Thanks everyone

 

[Big Steel]

You are not admin with full rights on Win 7 with UAC enabled. There is
only one admin account that has full rights, and you are not using that
admin account.

 

[EW]

Under "User Accounts" I am listed as administrator, but I still can't
modify quake3.cfg.

Yours is an excellent question, to which there is no reasonable response, as
seen by those here!! Isn't it amazing how people will "rationalize" with an
answer that makes no logical sense!

I, as administrator, have been denied the abilities to do certain things on
my Vista and Win7 computers. This is crazy. Security my foot; if I want to
mess up my computer (which I wouldn't anyway) then that's MY fault and
prerogative.

 

[EW]

On 5/9/2011 9:48 PM, Metspitzer wrote:

You are not admin with full rights on Win 7 with UAC enabled. There is
only one admin account that has full rights, and you are not using that
admin account.

That makes NO sense!!! What kind of looney policy is it that denies an
"administrator" his rights as administrator!!!

No, please don't even try .........

 

[Char Jackson]

I, as administrator, have been denied the abilities to do certain things on
my Vista and Win7 computers. This is crazy. Security my foot; if I want to
mess up my computer (which I wouldn't anyway) then that's MY fault and
prerogative.

It's really no big deal, is it? The security is there by default and
for most people is a good thing. If you don't like the default
settings you should feel free to change them. It's only a few mouse
clicks and is far easier than coming here to complain.

 

[Nil]

It's really no big deal, is it? The security is there by default
and for most people is a good thing. If you don't like the default
settings you should feel free to change them. It's only a few
mouse clicks and is far easier than coming here to complain.

If they don't know how to circumvent Windows' security features, they
probably shouldn't be poking around there in the first place.

 

[Char Jackson]

If they don't know how to circumvent Windows' security features, they
probably shouldn't be poking around there in the first place.

Agreed. It's often those with the least capabilities who want the most
control.

 

[JKConey]

Under "User Accounts" I am listed as administrator, but I still can't
modify quake3.cfg.

I had given quake3.cfg full access before I could modify it. I found
out from this group that any file in the "program files" directory
would do this. Because I wanted to do more modifying to the quake
folder I made a directory c:\games\quake but I was blocked from
changing the quake3.cfg file.

I am the only one that uses the computer. It seems really really
stupid to have to grant myself permission to do anything.

It would be nice to block programs from making unwanted changes, but I
don't understand why I have to grant myself permission.

Microsoft knows what's best for all of the people in the world.

 

[Big Steel]

That makes NO sense!!! What kind of looney policy is it that denies an
"administrator" his rights as administrator!!!

No, please don't even try .........

If I thought you knew what you were talking about, you would be
dangerous. You are a dumb home user.

 

[Leon Manfredi]

It's really no big deal, is it? The security is there by default and
for most people is a good thing. If you don't like the default
settings you should feel free to change them. It's only a few mouse
clicks and is far easier than coming here to complain.

Big Help You Are!!!!

Why in all hell did you even bother responding, tell us what clicks to
make, or butt up!!!!!

 

[Leon Manfredi]

If they don't know how to circumvent Windows' security features, they
probably shouldn't be poking around there in the first place.

Another Butt Upper !!!

 

[Big Steel]

Microsoft knows what's best for all of the people in the world.

It's has done no less than what Linux did with a root admin account that
must be used in order to do certain things. That admin account that
Vista, Win 2k8 server or Win 7 gives a user out of the box is not an
admin account that has wide open access to everything like the amdin
account has on XP, which everyone on XP ran as admin wide open to attack
so malware attacks it frequently.

The attack vector for Win 7 has been reduced. When using the admin
account on Win 7, it is really only a Standard user account 99% of the
time so that damages are mitigated to a certain degree to the O/S,
because a malware program running under that admin account is limited,
and the admin account doesn't really have admin full rights, like it as
full rights on XP.

XP is a wide-open O/S that can be attacked and turned every which way
but loose. It can't happen like that on Win 7 with UAC enabled, because
the admin account is only a Standard user account most of the time.

http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Exposing-Microsoft-Windows-7-User-Account-Control-UAC.html

I got some home user clown in another thread that doesn't know jack
about the O/S giving me lip-service about the admin account on Win 7 and
Vista that as been stripped of most of its power.

There is only one account on Vista, Win 2k8 server or Win 7 that has all
inclusive admin rights or the power. It's not that admin account that is
given to you out of the box, because it has been reduced to a Standard
user account for the most part.

This is the account that has all the power, and even that account is
stopped from doing certain things when in use.

<http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...idden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/>

 

[Rich]

If they don't know how to circumvent Windows' security features, they
probably shouldn't be poking around there in the first place.

I dual boot XP & 7. I was not qualified to open a sub folder containing
photographs in "My Pictures"? I was able to open the folder in XP. I was in
Windows 7 on the same computer & wanted to change the photo associated with
a user. I drilled down to a data folder labeled "Family" containing photos
of my family. I am the administrator & I was denied access. This has
happened so many times with different non-system folders that I cannot
provide the exact steps but I play around with permissions & choose one of
the dozens of users listed (though I am the only user) & enable complete
control for them one by one until it allows access.
Why would Windows 7 deny access to a user/administrator of a folder created
by that same user? This is not a setting to protect the integrity of the OS
from the uninformed, it is a bug.

Rich

 

[Char Jackson]

Big Help You Are!!!!

Why in all hell did you even bother responding, tell us what clicks to
make, or butt up!!!!!

Instead of demanding to have others spoon feed you, why not take some
responsibility and do it yourself? Gee, I hope EW doesn't see your
childish response and get the idea that's how things run in this
newsgroup.

 

[SC Tom]

Big Help You Are!!!!

Why in all hell did you even bother responding, tell us what clicks to
make, or butt up!!!!!

If you don't know where to click, and don't know how to find that
information, you would be better off leaving things the way they are.

If you do find out where and what to click, and go ahead and do it without
thinking of the consequences, I hope you have a viable system backup on
hand.

Good way to learn, finding out things for yourself ;-)