When Will Win7 Stop Being Sold (8 coming)


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Don

Microsoft rumour has it that Windows8 will be on sale sometime in
October 1012. Given past history, when that happens, how long will
Windows7 still be available for sale to the general public? Or do they
make sellers pull Windows7 from their inventory right away? Debating
whether to buy a copy of 7 Pro 64 bit now and hold onto it until I get a
custom built box later in the fall. Not interested in getting stuck
with 8 on its first iteration.

Thanks
 
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Evan Platt

Microsoft rumour has it that Windows8 will be on sale sometime in
October 1012. Given past history, when that happens, how long will
Windows7 still be available for sale to the general public? Or do they
make sellers pull Windows7 from their inventory right away? Debating
whether to buy a copy of 7 Pro 64 bit now and hold onto it until I get a
custom built box later in the fall. Not interested in getting stuck
with 8 on its first iteration.
The date it stops being sold is basically never. You'll probably still
always see copies available on eBay. What you probably mean is EOL
(End of Lifecycle) date. None has been set yet.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/products/lifecycle
 
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SC Tom

Don said:
Microsoft rumour has it that Windows8 will be on sale sometime in October 1012. Given past history, when that
happens, how long will Windows7 still be available for sale to the general public? Or do they make sellers pull
Windows7 from their inventory right away? Debating whether to buy a copy of 7 Pro 64 bit now and hold onto it until I
get a custom built box later in the fall. Not interested in getting stuck with 8 on its first iteration.

Thanks
I'm sure Win7 will be for sale long after Win8 is released. You can still get XP from just about any place that sells
software :)
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

Microsoft rumour has it that Windows8 will be on sale sometime in
October 1012. Given past history, when that happens, how long will
Windows7 still be available for sale to the general public? Or do they
make sellers pull Windows7 from their inventory right away? Debating
whether to buy a copy of 7 Pro 64 bit now and hold onto it until I get a
custom built box later in the fall. Not interested in getting stuck
with 8 on its first iteration.

Thanks
I have not bought any Windows for years. It always comes on any PC I
buy. I have only just bought a new PC and it came with W7 so that will
last me a while. I think that W8 will be rock solid by the time I buy
a new PC.

Steve
 
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Don

I have not bought any Windows for years. It always comes on any PC I
buy. I have only just bought a new PC and it came with W7 so that will
last me a while. I think that W8 will be rock solid by the time I buy
a new PC.

Steve
You buy your copy of Windows with the PC. I'm not interested in PCs
sold in big box stores or the name brands. All of my machines are
custom built. Better components and no crapware taking up gigabytes and
gigabytes of disk space.
 
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...winston

Normally when a new MSFT o/s version is released Retail sales of the prior
ends about year later and OEM pre-installed about 2 yrs...the latter either
as installed or downgradable.

For MSFT End of Sales dates (for comparison see) see
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/products/lifecycle

OEM and retail versions on third party reseller sites can usually be found
years later (at a variety of prices and condition).


--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Don" wrote in message
Microsoft rumour has it that Windows8 will be on sale sometime in
October 1012. Given past history, when that happens, how long will
Windows7 still be available for sale to the general public? Or do they
make sellers pull Windows7 from their inventory right away? Debating
whether to buy a copy of 7 Pro 64 bit now and hold onto it until I get a
custom built box later in the fall. Not interested in getting stuck
with 8 on its first iteration.

Thanks
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

...winston said:
Normally when a new MSFT o/s version is released Retail sales of the
prior ends about year later and OEM pre-installed about 2 yrs...the
latter either as installed or downgradable.

For MSFT End of Sales dates (for comparison see) see
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/products/lifecycle

OEM and retail versions on third party reseller sites can usually be
found years later (at a variety of prices and condition).
Thanks for that link: covers more than just sales.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"So, I take it you've ... been with a man before?" "I'm a virgin. I'm just not
very good at it." Topper Harley & Ramada Thompson (Charlie Sheen & Valeria
Golino), in "Hot Shots!" (1991).
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

You buy your copy of Windows with the PC. I'm not interested in PCs
sold in big box stores or the name brands. All of my machines are
custom built. Better components and no crapware taking up gigabytes and
gigabytes of disk space.
My latest PC's from Samsung & HP only have the OS pre installed, all
other software is optional. I have never bought from "big box stores"
whatever they are.

Steve
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

If you don't know what they are, how do you know you haven't bought a
computer at one?
I assume it's somewhere to buy big boxes rather than computers:)
Regardless of where you bought your computers, part of
the price goes to Microsoft for the Windows that was preinstalled. So,
in fact, you did buy Windows every time you bought a computer.
I click the online order form for the OS I want and the price stays
the same. The HP "all in one" I bought was from Tesco Direct. Perhaps
they charge for an OS regardless of choice. Tesco must get massive
quantity discounts as they charge less then buying direct from HP.

Steve
 
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Wolf K

On 27/04/2012 7:09 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
[...]
I click the online order form for the OS I want and the price stays
the same. The HP "all in one" I bought was from Tesco Direct. Perhaps
they charge for an OS regardless of choice. Tesco must get massive
quantity discounts as they charge less then buying direct from HP.

Steve
Tesco is a "big box store." They're called that because they are big
boxes surrounded by the largest parking lots they can afford. Walmart is
the exemplar. From what I gather, Tesco is the UK's Walmart.

And yes, MS charges Tesco the price of 1 OS for each machine they sell,
regardless of the OS that's actually installed. Last time I saw any
prices (or rumours of prices LOL) it was $25 per machine.

Best,
Wolf K.
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

On 27/04/2012 7:09 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
[...]
I click the online order form for the OS I want and the price stays
the same. The HP "all in one" I bought was from Tesco Direct. Perhaps
they charge for an OS regardless of choice. Tesco must get massive
quantity discounts as they charge less then buying direct from HP.

Steve
Tesco is a "big box store." They're called that because they are big
boxes surrounded by the largest parking lots they can afford. Walmart is
the exemplar. From what I gather, Tesco is the UK's Walmart.
I have never heard of the term "big box store" before this thread
started. SFAIK it's not used in the UK.

If I do use the term Tesco is the UK's biggest box. Walmart is number
two with Asda.
And yes, MS charges Tesco the price of 1 OS for each machine they sell,
regardless of the OS that's actually installed. Last time I saw any
prices (or rumours of prices LOL) it was $25 per machine.
You mean even if the customer chooses a free OS MS still get a cut. I
suspect somebody, somewhere is breaking a trading regulation with that
trick.

Steve
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

On 27/04/2012 7:09 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
[...]
I click the online order form for the OS I want and the price stays
the same. The HP "all in one" I bought was from Tesco Direct. Perhaps
they charge for an OS regardless of choice. Tesco must get massive
quantity discounts as they charge less then buying direct from HP.

Steve


Tesco is a "big box store." They're called that because they are big
boxes surrounded by the largest parking lots they can afford. Walmart is
the exemplar. From what I gather, Tesco is the UK's Walmart.
I have never heard of the term "big box store" before this thread
started. SFAIK it's not used in the UK.

If I do use the term Tesco is the UK's biggest box. Walmart is number
two with Asda.
And yes, MS charges Tesco the price of 1 OS for each machine they sell,
regardless of the OS that's actually installed. Last time I saw any
prices (or rumours of prices LOL) it was $25 per machine.
You mean even if the customer chooses a free OS MS still get a cut. I
suspect somebody, somewhere is breaking a trading regulation with that
trick.

Steve
Microsoft breaking a trade regulation? How could you think such a thing?
It's hard to believe that MS would do such a thing.

Steve
 
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Percival P. Cassidy

It's their specialty. How do you think Windows became the dominant
operating system? They strong armed Dell, HP, etc. into preinstalling
Windows instead of some other operating system like Linux.
Or "the OS for which Windows was intended to be merely a placeholder":
OS/2, which was released a few days longer than 25 years ago and which
persists in an OEM version called eComStation that is used by some major
enterprises.

Perce
 
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John Williamson

Alias said:
If you don't know what they are, how do you know you haven't bought a
computer at one? Regardless of where you bought your computers, part of
the price goes to Microsoft for the Windows that was preinstalled. So,
in fact, you did buy Windows every time you bought a computer.
Even if it came with Linux pre-installed, from some, if not most, makers
who offer that. MS charge them for every computer that comes out of the
door, even if it doesn't have Windows installed.
 
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John Williamson

Wolf said:
On 27/04/2012 7:09 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
[...]
I click the online order form for the OS I want and the price stays
the same. The HP "all in one" I bought was from Tesco Direct. Perhaps
they charge for an OS regardless of choice. Tesco must get massive
quantity discounts as they charge less then buying direct from HP.

Steve
Tesco is a "big box store." They're called that because they are big
boxes surrounded by the largest parking lots they can afford. Walmart is
the exemplar. From what I gather, Tesco is the UK's Walmart.
Point of information, it's ASDA who are the British arm of Walmart. HTH.
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

On 4/27/2012 3:16 PM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On 27/04/2012 7:09 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
[...]
I click the online order form for the OS I want and the price stays
the same. The HP "all in one" I bought was from Tesco Direct. Perhaps
they charge for an OS regardless of choice. Tesco must get massive
quantity discounts as they charge less then buying direct from HP.

Steve


Tesco is a "big box store." They're called that because they are big
boxes surrounded by the largest parking lots they can afford. Walmart is
the exemplar. From what I gather, Tesco is the UK's Walmart.


I have never heard of the term "big box store" before this thread
started. SFAIK it's not used in the UK.

If I do use the term Tesco is the UK's biggest box. Walmart is number
two with Asda.

And yes, MS charges Tesco the price of 1 OS for each machine they sell,
regardless of the OS that's actually installed. Last time I saw any
prices (or rumours of prices LOL) it was $25 per machine.


You mean even if the customer chooses a free OS MS still get a cut. I
suspect somebody, somewhere is breaking a trading regulation with that
trick.

Steve


Microsoft breaking a trade regulation? How could you think such a thing?
It's hard to believe that MS would do such a thing.

Steve
It's their specialty. How do you think Windows became the dominant
operating system?
I've used Windows since version 2. I was on an evaluation team so I
got it free. In my opinion it has always been the best OS for the
price. My company could not afford Macintosh so MAC OS wasn't in the
running.
They strong armed Dell, HP, etc. into preinstalling
Windows instead of some other operating system like Linux.
Some company, I can't remember which, did start pre installing Linux
but their sales went down.

You may have gathered that I'm very pro-Windows. That's because I lost
a lot of money producing my software for other platforms. I only sold
one copy for free OS's while I sell thousands for Windows.

Steve
 
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Bob Henson

As I have more than one computer/hard drive, I use both Linux and
Windows. I've made a fair amount of money off Windows: fixing it when it
gets compromised or just because it's Windows. I've never had to fix a
Linux install for anyone who I installed Linux for.
You haven't tried getting Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome 3.4.1 to display a
laptop battery icon yet then - I've been at it a whole day so far.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK


A hangover is the wrath of grapes.
 
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Paul

Bob said:
You haven't tried getting Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome 3.4.1 to display a
laptop battery icon yet then - I've been at it a whole day so far.
Have you tried some command line things first ?

If the command line returns nonsense, then that would be a good reason
for an icon to disappear. I doubt a basic OS install would be missing
the package for that, but that's a less likely explanation (check package
manager).

http://www.go2linux.org/laptop-battery-status-with-linux-console-command-acpi

Paul
 
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Paul

Paul said:
Have you tried some command line things first ?

If the command line returns nonsense, then that would be a good reason
for an icon to disappear. I doubt a basic OS install would be missing
the package for that, but that's a less likely explanation (check package
manager).

http://www.go2linux.org/laptop-battery-status-with-linux-console-command-acpi

Paul
I gave it a test on my laptop, and I did get a battery icon.
Since it's Unity, there wasn't much else I could do :)

Paul
 
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QuestionQuigley

"Don" wrote in message
Microsoft rumour has it that Windows8 will be on sale sometime in
October 1012. Given past history, when that happens, how long will
Windows7 still be available for sale to the general public? Or do they
make sellers pull Windows7 from their inventory right away? Debating
whether to buy a copy of 7 Pro 64 bit now and hold onto it until I get a
custom built box later in the fall. Not interested in getting stuck
with 8 on its first iteration.

Thanks

Not soon enough.
 

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