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Bucky Breeder

<Cross posted to both Windows 7 and 8 groups due to likely interest>

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/16/microsoft-may-bring-back-start-button-
and-desktop/

Microsoft certainly has the "TBTF" (Too Big To Fail) mindset...

They venture to come up with a paid upgrade to Windows 8.1 instead of a
service pack for Windows 8, and they are fixing to see a veritable
explosion of viable, meaningful, end-user-friendly competition which will
start the nail-gunning process to their proverbial coffin. <word>

The advantage to the current Windows 8 configuration is with touch-screens
and various mutatations away from the "standard desk top computer" with
which so many people are familar and hold great affection. It's actually
quite handy - and intuitive - on a really good touch screen. Or one of
those floor-mounted hologram units that many of us 1-Percent'ers have in
our media rooms. Committing the library of hand/arm gestures to memory is
not such a terrible burden...
 
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xfile

<Cross posted to both Windows 7 and 8 groups due to likely interest>

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/16/microsoft-may-bring-back-start-button-and-desktop/
It's doomed to happen and just Vista all over again. Either MS change or
they die. Period.

It never ceases to amaze me how people are proud of using/buying a 3rd
party utility after buying/installing a new OS just to get back to how
things used to be.

After twenty-some years of computer evolution, techies and fanbois still
don't get the idea about productivity and the cost of learning curve. (sad)
 
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Ashton Crusher

It's doomed to happen and just Vista all over again. Either MS change or
they die. Period.

It never ceases to amaze me how people are proud of using/buying a 3rd
party utility after buying/installing a new OS just to get back to how
things used to be.

After twenty-some years of computer evolution, techies and fanbois still
don't get the idea about productivity and the cost of learning curve. (sad)

Anyone besides me remember HAL? Human Access Language add-in for MS
Excel waaay back in the early days.

Provided a menu bar where you could type in "Make ColA numbers" and it
would convert all the alpha-numeric's in Col A to numbers(Values). You
could type in "Add Col A to Col B then divide that result by Col F and
put in Col G" or "Print A1 thru G33" and other stuff like that. It
made my use of Excel much easier but I must have been the only one who
bought a copy as it never made it thru the next upgrade of Excel.
 
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Daniel47

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

Call me a closet sadist, but I think I actually get some gratification
out of the momentary panic that crosses the occasional cash register
operator's face after they ring up , say, a $3.77 purchase and I tender
a five-dollar bill and seventy-seven cents.
(catching up on some old/unread threads)

If I have a pocket full of coins, I'll often do this as well! On at
least one occasion, with older style till's I think, I've been given
change of $0.77 plus $1.23. Seems some people don't really look at what
is going on!

On a Mathematical bent, between 1985 and 1995, I was an Electronics
teacher at an Australian Army Trade School, and, at one time I was
teaching a Circuit Analysis subject dealing with
Thevinin's/Norton/Kirchoff's/Etc. Theromyns.

At one time, having finished "teaching" the subject, I was drawing up
circuits on the "blackboard" for the students to solve. One that I drew
up had six interconnected circuit loops, requiring six simultaneous
equations to solve! Didn't take me long to realise that I had no idea
how to solve six simultaneous equations, let alone for the students to
manage anything.

Not a problem .... I went off to the General Education section and got
one of the Education Corps Captains to come over and help me/us out. So
he started working his way through the six equations, multiplying one
equation so that one of the numbers would be equal to a figure in
another equation, which allowed substitution and "normal" simultaneous
equations processes, again and again and again.

I was standing at the back of the room, helping out with the divisions
in the sum, e.g. it might have needed 2 and 1/3 divided by 1 and 3/4,
and I would call out 1 and 1/3.

As the equations were sorted out, the numbers got nastier and nastier,
maybe 7 and 11/16 divided by 3 and 7/8 and I'd call out 1 and 51/62.

Wasn't long before most of the class had turned around looking at me do
all this *mental* arithmetic.

Ahh!! The good old days!! Made me remember to pre-prepare any problems I
set the students

Any body remember "Four Figure Log books"??

(Hope my maths is right!!)

Daniel
 
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Daniel47

Larry__Weiss wrote:

Are there annual tax forms for British citizens? If so, what day is the
equivalent to April 15 in the USA?
(Catching up on old posts)

Although you didn't ask, Larry, here in Australia, the Tax year is 1
July to 30 June.

People then have until 31 Oct to lodge their Personal Income Tax docs,
either on-line or via post. If they use a Tax Accountant, they have
until 31 May following year.

Companies may have to submit returns each quarter or month, depending on
size, with any monies forwarded/credited by the end of the next month.

FYI

Daniel
 
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Wolf K

[snip entertaining story]
Any body remember "Four Figure Log books"??

(Hope my maths is right!!
I have before me Shunk's "The Field Engineer", 9th edition, 1908
printing. It gives 6 decimal places for logs and for trig functions.

Why do I have this book? Because it was cheap. It has a leatherette
cover, and gilded page edges. Wonderful paper, not a sign of browning
after 105 years! A B . J. Crest owned it before me.

;-)
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Daniel.
(Hope my maths is right!!)
Almost.

maybe 7 and 11/16 divided by 3 and 7/8 and I'd call out 1 and 51/62.
7 * 16 = 112 + 11 = 123/16
(3 * 8 = 24 + 7 = 31) * 2 = 62/16

123 - 62 = 61

So you should have said 1 and 61/62.

If MY math is right. ;^}

(Win8's Calculator says 123 / 62 = 1.983870967741935.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8 Pro


"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

Call me a closet sadist, but I think I actually get some gratification
out of the momentary panic that crosses the occasional cash register
operator's face after they ring up , say, a $3.77 purchase and I tender
a five-dollar bill and seventy-seven cents.
(catching up on some old/unread threads)

If I have a pocket full of coins, I'll often do this as well! On at
least one occasion, with older style till's I think, I've been given
change of $0.77 plus $1.23. Seems some people don't really look at what
is going on!

On a Mathematical bent, between 1985 and 1995, I was an Electronics
teacher at an Australian Army Trade School, and, at one time I was
teaching a Circuit Analysis subject dealing with
Thevinin's/Norton/Kirchoff's/Etc. Theromyns.

At one time, having finished "teaching" the subject, I was drawing up
circuits on the "blackboard" for the students to solve. One that I drew
up had six interconnected circuit loops, requiring six simultaneous
equations to solve! Didn't take me long to realise that I had no idea
how to solve six simultaneous equations, let alone for the students to
manage anything.

Not a problem .... I went off to the General Education section and got
one of the Education Corps Captains to come over and help me/us out. So
he started working his way through the six equations, multiplying one
equation so that one of the numbers would be equal to a figure in
another equation, which allowed substitution and "normal" simultaneous
equations processes, again and again and again.

I was standing at the back of the room, helping out with the divisions
in the sum, e.g. it might have needed 2 and 1/3 divided by 1 and 3/4,
and I would call out 1 and 1/3.

As the equations were sorted out, the numbers got nastier and nastier,
maybe 7 and 11/16 divided by 3 and 7/8 and I'd call out 1 and 51/62.

Wasn't long before most of the class had turned around looking at me do
all this *mental* arithmetic.

Ahh!! The good old days!! Made me remember to pre-prepare any problems I
set the students

Any body remember "Four Figure Log books"??

(Hope my maths is right!!)

Daniel
 
W

...winston

R. C. White said:
"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message

Hi, Daniel.


7 * 16 = 112 + 11 = 123/16
(3 * 8 = 24 + 7 = 31) * 2 = 62/16

123 - 62 = 61

So you should have said 1 and 61/62.

If MY math is right. ;^}

(Win8's Calculator says 123 / 62 = 1.983870967741935.)

RC
+1
984/496 = 123/62 = 1 and 61/62
 
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Daniel47

R. C. White said:
Hi, Daniel.


7 * 16 = 112 + 11 = 123/16
(3 * 8 = 24 + 7 = 31) * 2 = 62/16

123 - 62 = 61

So you should have said 1 and 61/62.

If MY math is right. ;^}

(Win8's Calculator says 123 / 62 = 1.983870967741935.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8 Pro
Bugger!

So I got the 7 x 6 correct but mucked up the 7 x 10!! Bugger!!
 
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Char Jackson

Gene said:
In message <[email protected]>, Gene E. Bloch
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:18:05 +0100, John Williamson wrote:

I had the micturation extracted when I built my own calculator from a
set of chips on a home etched PCB while I was at college.
I have trouble understanding that sentence.

AFAICT, micturation means a desire or need to urinate.

Any assistance will be welcome :)

=> "Taking the mickey" ...
Sorry, I don't speak English[1].

Fortunately, Google does,or at least knows someone who does.

Thanks for the clarification (and it was a clarification, thanks to
Google's buddy, http://www.phrases.org.uk).
[1] Although I *do* speak a vaguely related language :)
We'uns talk Merkin.
Does 'Merkin' have another definition besides pubic wig?
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Gene said:
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 23:10:27 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

In message <[email protected]>, Gene E. Bloch
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:18:05 +0100, John Williamson wrote:

I had the micturation extracted when I built my own calculator from a
set of chips on a home etched PCB while I was at college.
I have trouble understanding that sentence.

AFAICT, micturation means a desire or need to urinate.

Any assistance will be welcome :)

=> "Taking the mickey" ...

Sorry, I don't speak English[1].

Fortunately, Google does,or at least knows someone who does.

Thanks for the clarification (and it was a clarification, thanks to
Google's buddy, http://www.phrases.org.uk).
[1] Although I *do* speak a vaguely related language :)
We'uns talk Merkin.
Does 'Merkin' have another definition besides pubic wig?
Slang in some circles for "American", intended to mimic the slurred
pronunciation of a presumably less literate speaker.
 
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Char Jackson

Slang in some circles for "American", intended to mimic the slurred
pronunciation of a presumably less literate speaker.
Oh, those Yanks and their language. ;-)
 

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