USB driver problem

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by albert Gerber, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. This will probably be a little long winded but--

    I'm dual booting Window 7 and Linux Mint. I installed virtuabox in both
    systems. First I put WinXP in the box. Works like I remember, great.
    Finds my Flash drives and Hitachi backup drive. USB work fine. I then
    installed PCLinuxOS which also works great and the USB system sees the
    extra drives. Two days ago I got my Win7 DVD so installed it in the
    virtulbox. Installs without a problem. The problem is that Win7 knows
    the Flash drives are there but can't install the drivers and tells me
    Code10. I spent most of my day yesterday looking through Google for a
    solution. I filled about four or five pages of a Note Pad with notes
    which I deleted one by one as I found the suggestions didn't work. I
    thought I would come to the newsgroup and see if anyone had any ideas or
    experience with this problem. I tried the program suggested by Microsoft
    to fined the problem and provide a solution. NO GO. I removed the
    reference in the Manager for the Flash drives, closed Windows and
    restarted it. It found the Flash Drives drives again but there was still
    no drivers that could be installed. Until I find a cure for this I'm not
    going to substitute Win7 for Vista. I tried the same process in Vista
    and have the same results. Can't install drivers. I spent an hour trying
    to figure out how to replace the Win7 drivers with the drivers from
    Vista which work great in Vista. I couldn't get any ware because I can't
    delete or rename the Win7 drivers. Any thoughts to help me get started
    on a new line would be appreciated.

    Little Al
    albert Gerber, Sep 28, 2011
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  2. albert Gerber

    Ed Cryer Guest

    What happens when you go into Device Manager and try to install drivers
    for the things, ticking the box to allow for searching the Web?

    What also happens if you uninstall and reboot?

    Ed Cryer, Sep 28, 2011
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  3. albert Gerber

    albert Guest

    I referred to his in my note above but wasn't very clear in my terminology.

    In Device Manager when I uninstall and reboot the Flash drives are found
    again but without the installation of new drivers It just tells me This
    devise cannot start (Code 10) My request through search the web yields
    the information that the existing drivers are all there is.

    When I go to the website for the Trancend16 flash drive there is no
    information for drivers because Windows7 provide drivers.
    The, This devise cannot start (Code 10) seems to me to indicate that the
    drivers are correct but that there is a problem glitch.

    Thanks, Little Al
    albert, Sep 28, 2011
  4. albert Gerber

    Ed Cryer Guest

    Hello Little Al.

    Explain why you have a dual-boot for Win7 and Linux Mint, and yet you're
    trying to put another Win7 in a virtual box.
    BTW, which virtual box are you using?

    Ed Cryer, Sep 28, 2011
  5. I'm guessing the problem is with Virtual Box, not Windows 7. Or maybe
    with running Windows inside a virtual machine in general.

    Running W7 directly on several computers (5 or 6), I have seen no such
    problems with flash drives or flash cards.
    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 28, 2011
  6. albert Gerber

    Paul Guest

    There is a theory here, that the problem could be related to an
    UpperFilter or LowerFilter registry key. Typically, those are installed
    by applications that attempt to intercept traffic in the protocol
    stack. This would require registry editing.

    The thing using the UpperFilter or LowerFilter in the host OS,
    could be the VirtualBox software.

    Paul, Sep 28, 2011
  7. Thanks for the input PAUL and GENE.

    To Paul. I Went in and modified the Registry as suggested. I only had
    one of the filters registered so delete it and restarted Win7. It did
    not make any difference to the flash drive drivers being loaded. So I
    returned the registry to the previous state.

    To Gene: I will follow up on your information tomorrow when I'm fresh.
    NOTE: Neither WinXP nor Mint Linux have problems with the USB drives in
    VBox. I only have the three DVD's I made up when I got this box, for my
    Vista and the Key information is in a hidden area of the box which is a
    pain to get to. Otherwise I would have installed it in the Virtual box
    to check the drivers out.

    Thanks again guys. It really doesn't matter to anything important about
    this problem. Tinkering with these operating system keeps me out of trouble.

    Little Al
    albert Gerber, Sep 29, 2011
  8. Hi Ed, Fair question. First, This HP box came with Vista Home installed
    There is a long explanation but I'll keep it short. I really don't do
    anything with the operating systems. Read e-mail, write to one or two of
    my kids and grandkids that don't do e-mail, do streaming media usually
    music and sometimes downloading talking books. I get bored so I
    installed Virtual Box to experiment. I installed PCLinuxOS in Vbox just
    to see how it went. It went so well I tried installing WinXP. It runs
    better than I remembered. I run almost all my simple programs off one
    of my Transcend Flash drives without installing many basic programs,
    Firefox,Chromium, Thunderbird, which are universal to Windows and Linux.
    Also I keep my financial information in KMYMONEY which is a Linux
    program. I'm not much of a user but a great tinkerer. I found this Win7
    Pro oem disk on Amazon for an acceptable price so I got it to try out. I
    put it in VBox because I didn't want to reformat my Vista partition
    until I was satisfied it worked OK. I really don't need Win7 as I only
    have one program that isn't in the Linux repository and that is a jigsaw
    program written by some fellow in Italy. Sometimes I'll go for a month
    in my favorite Linux Mint only shutting it down to get the updates for

    Ed, I'm running the Linux version of VirtualBox OSE. I would have to
    close down and restart in Vista to tell you what I'm running there.

    Sorry Ed probably more than you wanted to know. If you share with Ken
    Blake tell him I remember him from the days he was sharing on the Win98
    news group.

    Little Al
    albert Gerber, Sep 29, 2011
  9. albert Gerber

    Ed Cryer Guest

    I spend a lot of time doing similar things. I tinker to get more
    understanding, and then try to use that understanding to help others
    with their problems.

    You might be a bit ahead of me, though, and you should be guiding me. If
    I can be of help as someone to bounce your ideas off, well then, maybe I
    can provide at least that.

    Ed Cryer, Sep 29, 2011
  10. OK.

    I'd be curious to know, if you ever find out if my guesses were right or
    wrong, to post that info ... thanks.

    If you do start to get into trouble anyway, consider trying to learn to
    program for the Android OS :)
    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 29, 2011
  11. albert Gerber

    Ed Cryer Guest

    Have you installed Android in VMware?
    I have, but it's very, very temperamental. In fact it's so temperamental
    that I'm a'thinking that I must have installed it awry.

    Ed Cryer, Sep 29, 2011
  12. albert Gerber

    Ed Cryer Guest

    That's better. I reinstalled it on a NTFS-formatted partition, and it's
    all working fine now.
    The previous attempt was on a FAT32 one.

    Ed Cryer, Sep 29, 2011
  13. There is nothing wrong with posting information. Either it helps or it
    doesn't. I've just read over a thousand pages of posts half with the
    question the other half with suggestions and none of them have been any
    help correcting the problem.
    Thanks for trying to help with something that is bugging me.

    Little Al
    albert Gerber, Sep 29, 2011
  14. First, Ed, as if I didn't have enough to think about I'm going to the
    VMware site and download and install it. I want to find out what the
    differdnces are between VirtualBox and VMware. I haven't even gone to
    the Android web page to look at the program. Now that you have alerted
    me to Android I'll go and take a look. I'm so tired of reading
    information about my USB problem I'm ready for a change.

    Because I can get on line With Win7 I've been thinking about learning
    about and using Cloud to put the information from my Flash Drive in the
    cloud so I can access it that way with Win7. What do you think about that?

    Little Al
    albert Gerber, Sep 29, 2011
  15. Thanks for that Info Ed. I'll make sure use NTFS when I try to install
    it in VertualBox or VMware

    Little Al
    albert Gerber, Sep 30, 2011
  16. albert Gerber

    Ed Cryer Guest

    I don't fully comprehend Cloud terminology. I think I understand the
    basic concept but I see it as a mere extension of putting stuff on a
    website for general usage.
    I often upload dictionaries and photos onto SkyDrive for other people,
    but my max size so far is a 32MB edited Latin dictionary that I cobbled
    up from another version.

    Maybe you know better than me.
    It depends on what's on your flashdrive, how often you use it, who else
    uses it, size of files.

    It sounds as if it would be better on a local HD.

    Ed Cryer, Sep 30, 2011
  17. I'm glad (as I see from your follow-up post) that you got Android

    I installed the Eclipse SDK with the Android extensions as applications,
    directly on my Windows 7 machine. I put them outside of the Program
    Files and Program Files (x86) hierarchies, probably for reasons of

    I use the Android emulator which is part of the above package.

    My suggestion to albert Gerber was based on his comment "Tinkering with
    these operating system keeps me out of trouble", since I've had enough
    of a slog with trying to write some simple programs on Android that I
    haven't had time to get into trouble :)

    I finally made progress by doing two things:

    1. Finding a better book than the others[1]

    2. Just going ahead and writing some programs without waiting until I
    felt I understood enough to do it.

    [1] I finally realized that my *actual* hobby was buying books on
    Android programming...
    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 30, 2011
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