snipping tool slow

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Jeff@nospam.invalid, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. Guest

    In my previous Windows 7 64 bit system running on a i3 laptop with 6G of
    ram I learned to use and really like the "Snipping Tool".

    But in my new Windows 7 64 bit laptop with a 3rd generation i7 cpu and 8
    G of ram the "Snipping tool" takes over 30 seconds to start. I've
    searched the web and find that many others have noticed slow starts of
    the Snipping tool but n solutions for it. I ran sfc /scannow and it
    found no problems. So I am at a loss.

    Any suggestions?

    Could it be that my 1 GB pagefile is too large (causing Windows 7 to
    search my slow HDD instead of finding it in ram)?

    Other ideas?

    Jeff
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  2. Jeff Layman Guest

    I've never tried it, but does the snipping tool run in safe mode? If
    so, is it any faster?

    Other than that, what about running the snipping tool when the task
    manager is up showing what processes are running, and what is using up
    the CPU. That's with the "Processes" tab on screen. You might try the
    same thing with the "Performance" tab on screen. Does anything start
    consuming CPU time when you start the snipping tool?
     
    Jeff Layman, Sep 2, 2012
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  3. Guest

    Thanks for your suggestions Jeff (I like that name).

    Good suggestions! I started the taskmanager and started the snipping
    tool while watching the process screen. The only thing that changed was
    the appearance of the ST which only used up 1 % of the cpu.

    I did the same while watching the performance screen and there was
    literally no even a blip visible when I started ST!

    Not sure how to start the system in safe mode.

    But here are some interesting findings that might help others.

    I had originally set the virtual memory on this system to 1024MB (both
    min and maximum) because I thought the 8GB that Windows had set it to
    was too large. This is counter-intuitive but I now went back and let
    Windows manage it and it immediately reset it to 8 GB. Now, the ST
    starts up at the same time as it does in my old laptop. Still not
    terribly fast but much faster. Makes no sense because my HDD is not a
    fast one but these are the facts.

    I also restarted the system and immediately started the ST. It started
    at about the same speed as it does after letting Windows manage the size
    of the pagefile.

    Another thing. I use Avast free as a antivirus. I thought some of its
    "active shields" might be part of the problem. But temporarily stopping
    all of them had no effect on the starting of ST.

    I really like the Windows 7 snipping tool and use it quite a bit to take
    screen shots. The web says that snagit is better, but unlike snagit the
    ST is free and does the trick quite well except for its slow startup.

    Jeff
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  4. Ed Cryer Guest

    I would have thought that if your system set-up was to blame for
    Snipping Tool's slow load then it would have the same effect on other
    programs too; mail, browser, AV etc.
    If those are loading ok, you'll have to look at Snipping Tool individually.

    Here's some info from my PC;
    SnippingTool.exe in System32, Windows folder.
    File version 6.1.7600.16385
    421KB
    date modified 14/07/2009

    Right click on the entry in Start menu; see if it points to that.

    Don't go tinkering with Win7's system settings until you have good
    reason to conclude the system itself needs attention.

    Ed
     
    Ed Cryer, Sep 2, 2012
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  5. Guest

    Thanks Ed.

    Everything else starts fine and the shortcut does point to the same file
    as yours does except my date is July 1 instead of July 14. Same size,
    etc. So I guess it is just the way ST starts. Does yours take some time
    to start too?

    But I am a tinkerer! And it gets me into all sorts of trouble..... ;>

    Jeff
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  6. Ed Cryer Guest

    Mine throws up its window a second after clicking for it.
    Look in the options settings. See if it's checking for updates or something.

    I find Irfanview's screen capture preferable.

    Ed
     
    Ed Cryer, Sep 2, 2012
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  7. Guest

    Thanks. Wish mine went up in a second. Will check.
    I have Irfanview installed but never used its screen capture tool. Will
    explore.
    Thanks.
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  8. Jeff Layman Guest

    I know what you mean!
    Just follow the on-screen instructions while booting. The usual way is
    to press and hold the F8 key early on during the boot process (before
    the Windows logo appears). You will then be presented with a screen
    which gives you several options to continue. One of these will be Safe
    Mode.
    On my 3-years old HP G61 laptop (Win7HPx64, dual core Pentium T4300
    @2.1GHz, 4GB ram, virtual memory is automatically managed and 4GB is
    currently allocated), the Snipping Tool starts 3 - 4 seconds after
    clicking its link in "Accessories". That seems ok to me.
     
    Jeff Layman, Sep 2, 2012
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  9. Guest

    Wish mine did.
    On my laptop, after a fresh reboot and with Windows controlling the
    pagefile Snipping Tool now opens at a speedy 16 seconds. 3-4 seconds
    would be fine with me too!
    There are a lt of messages on the web about ST slow starts but no useful
    solutions I could find.

    I just created a desktop shortcut using the command line for IrfanView
    capture tool
    "C:\Program Files (x86)\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" /capture=X
    and it is dazzlingly "instantaneous"! Now I need to figure out how to
    make it not capture the entire desktop but only what I want like in
    Snipping Tool.
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  10. I don't normally use the Snipping Tool. I didn't even know it existed.
    I've been using FastStone since my W2K daze, but when I tried Snipping
    Tool, it came up and worked as advertised in the second or so it took to
    read the program from disk. This even though the potentially conflicting
    FastStone is installed and running in memory.
     
    Dave \Crash\ Dummy, Sep 2, 2012
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  11. Jeff Layman Guest

    The instructions are in IrfanView's Help File, but they seem a bit
    convoluted to me. I must say that the Snipping Tool is one of MS's
    better recent introductions.
     
    Jeff Layman, Sep 2, 2012
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  12. Ed Cryer Guest

    http://tinyurl.com/9uv4mn2
    Irfanview, Options, Capture/ Screenshot.

    Ed
     
    Ed Cryer, Sep 2, 2012
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  13. Ed Cryer Guest

    There's one suggested solution that comes up time and again with a
    google on this problem; Tablet PC Components.
    See here;
    http://tinyurl.com/8b8lxzn
    Give it a try.

    Ed
     
    Ed Cryer, Sep 2, 2012
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  14. Guest

    Yes, I really find it useful. Just wish it would open up faster on my
    laptop. Just tried again and it took 14 sec to appear.
    Will keep searching for the problem.
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  15. Guest

    That is probably my problem. Not only do I have Tablet PC disabled, I
    think I had uninstalled it. Will try to get it back.
    Thanks for the hint.
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  16. Guest

    Ed, you are the champ. You solved my problem.

    I re-installed Tablet PC Components and Snipping Tool opens in 2-3 seconds!

    For others in the same predicament I created for myself: here is how to
    re-install any of Windows 7 default services:
    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/236709-services-restore-default-services-windows-7-a.html

    Thanks everyone.

    Note: beware of mucking around with Windows. You are more likely to get
    yourself in trouble than to remove "unnecessary" services .....

    Jeff
     
    , Sep 2, 2012
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  17. Bob I Guest

    On a laptop with an SSD it is virtually instantaneous.
     
    Bob I, Sep 2, 2012
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  18. Ed Cryer Guest

    It's good to see that these NGs can be helpful as well as a vehicle for
    spammers, trolls and vitriol-laden losers.
    The Snipping Tool can do a lot that Paint does.
    Look at this little gem I painted;
    http://tinyurl.com/bvt7hbf

    Ed
     
    Ed Cryer, Sep 3, 2012
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  19. Makes you look like a toddler!

    but really - thanks for the hint.

    I just tried it. Geez, my handwriting is bad. Makes me look like a
    toddler :)

    Given my handwriting, I'd also like the ability to type text in, but
    what the heck, one can do that in another app once the picture is saved.
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 3, 2012
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  20. It's normally pretty quick with a hard drive too. The OP had a
    configuration problem which was solved by a hint from Ed Cryer.
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 3, 2012
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