Security Essentials question

[Bob I]

OK, now I have to love you forever.

On booting just now, the Security Essentials icon failed to appear, and
I succeeded in getting it back using your method.

Let's just leave it at you're welcome to my style of tech support.
A second possible method of recovering "icons" is "killing" and then
restarting "explorer.exe" in effect completely rebuilding the desktop.
after you are logged on.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Let's just leave it at you're welcome to my style of tech support.

OK, then let me replace my attempt at humor by a simple "Thank you"

A second possible method of recovering "icons" is "killing" and then
restarting "explorer.exe" in effect completely rebuilding the desktop.
after you are logged on.

Will this restore the missing icons in the system tray, or will it just
recreate the status quo?

Of course, I'll try it the next time the problem occurs, but until then
I won't be able to answer the question experimentally.

 

[Bob I]

OK, then let me replace my attempt at humor by a simple "Thank you"


Will this restore the missing icons in the system tray, or will it just
recreate the status quo?

Of course, I'll try it the next time the problem occurs, but until then
I won't be able to answer the question experimentally.

Restarting explorer.exe I've had "hit and miss" success with 3rd party
Icons in the Notification area. Not as surefire as restarting the "app"
itself as that causes it to place the icon there when it starts. But it
is easier to remember and try.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Restarting explorer.exe I've had "hit and miss" success with 3rd party
Icons in the Notification area. Not as surefire as restarting the "app"
itself as that causes it to place the icon there when it starts. But it
is easier to remember and try.

Which reminds me - while I remember, I'd better put your new suggestion
with my notes on the older one

 

[...winston]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

Bob wrote..

Which reminds me - while I remember, I'd better put your new suggestion
with my notes on the older one

You can add a few more causes.

1. A different program installer may not properly (or erringly) place the correct string in this registry key
HKLM\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\run
- e.g. a path name missing a space or necessary quotes causing Windows to not complete subsequent processes (e.g. load a tray icon)
2. SSDP Discovery service takes longer to start(when set to Manual instead of Automatic) when Explorer load thus preventing tray
icons from loading
3. With MSE (a failed attempt when starting to phone home (can be caused by a router/internet connection)
4. Maybe unlikely for the knowledgeable like yourself but possibly applicable to others - running multiple resident AV/Antimalware
programs)
5. Corrupt notification area icon cache

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Which reminds me - while I remember, I'd better put your new suggestion
with my notes on the older one

And just today I had an icon fail to load, so I tried the above.

Gained the missing one, lost one of the others

Did I make it clear before that just starting an app, i.e., clicking on
its exe or shortcut, fails to restore its Notification Area icon? I have
to stop it first, then start it. I do realize that you said restart, but
I'm referring to my remarks in this thread, in case I was unclear.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message


You can add a few more causes.

1. A different program installer may not properly (or erringly) place the correct string in this registry key
HKLM\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\run
- e.g. a path name missing a space or necessary quotes causing Windows to not complete subsequent processes (e.g. load a tray icon)
2. SSDP Discovery service takes longer to start(when set to Manual instead of Automatic) when Explorer load thus preventing tray
icons from loading
3. With MSE (a failed attempt when starting to phone home (can be caused by a router/internet connection)
4. Maybe unlikely for the knowledgeable like yourself but possibly applicable to others - running multiple resident AV/Antimalware
programs)
5. Corrupt notification area icon cache

My problems are with apps that *nearly* always place the icons fine.

 

[Bob I]

My problems are with apps that *nearly* always place the icons fine.

Some time ago, I noticed that systems that booted straight to the
desktop(had a default user autoload) seems to have considerably more
instances of the Notification area missing some icon. I wondered if it
was due to the "user interface" starting before the system had
completely finished all the background programs start up?

 

[...winston]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

My problems are with apps that *nearly* always place the icons fine.

2, 3, and 5 (SSDP, MSE Phone home, icon cache) could still be applicable even if remote since they are validated causes.

There have been a few rare times that the MSE icon failed to appear (on my Win7 Pro) after a cold start or restart though excluding
those exceptions the balance of my notification area icons (including those programs that generate an icon when open) are always
present. For the most part, if it occurs for others similar to your situation (sometimes), while a nuisance, the underlying cause
may be tough to pin down.

I do have CCleaner permanently configured to reset the system tray notification cache.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

2, 3, and 5 (SSDP, MSE Phone home, icon cache) could still be applicable even if remote since they are validated causes.

There have been a few rare times that the MSE icon failed to appear (on my Win7 Pro) after a cold start or restart though excluding
those exceptions the balance of my notification area icons (including those programs that generate an icon when open) are always
present. For the most part, if it occurs for others similar to your situation (sometimes), while a nuisance, the underlying cause
may be tough to pin down.

I do have CCleaner permanently configured to reset the system tray notification cache.

I've decided that Windows 7 is on a vendetta against me.

More seriously, I wonder if interrupts can get lost. But that doesn't
seem good either, since AFAIK only a couple of system tray items are
ever affected. Lost interrupts would have rather more disturbing - and
random - effects, don'tcha think?

I'll just live with it - it's not that big a deal.

 

[...winston]

Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

I've decided that Windows 7 is on a vendetta against me.

More seriously, I wonder if interrupts can get lost. But that
doesn't seem good either, since AFAIK only a couple of system
tray items are ever affected. Lost interrupts would have rather
more disturbing - and random - effects, don'tcha think?

I'll just live with it - it's not that big a deal.

If you've used Windows (and you probably have) for years like the rest of us in this forum then disturbing and random effects
caused by or occurring while using Windows when unexplainable become just that...no big deal....but they do provide opportunities
to discuss and pass the time as recreational alternatives to other extra curricular activities.