Security Essentials question


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Art Todesco

The icon for Microsoft Security Essentials has disappeared from the
notification area. I think it might have something to do with a
visitor, my son, but I really don't know. I've looked in the Task
Manager and it says that MSE is running. Also, if you manually launch
MSE from the the start menu, it too says that it is running.
Previously, the green icon was usually there, and when it turned orange,
I knew that it was time to scan. Anyone know how I can bring it back?
Thanks.
 
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Art Todesco

The icon for Microsoft Security Essentials has disappeared from the
notification area. I think it might have something to do with a
visitor, my son, but I really don't know. I've looked in the Task
Manager and it says that MSE is running. Also, if you manually launch
MSE from the the start menu, it too says that it is running. Previously,
the green icon was usually there, and when it turned orange, I knew that
it was time to scan. Anyone know how I can bring it back? Thanks.
Sorry, I may have asked this question too quickly. I rebooted and the
icon came back. Funny thing, I HAD rebooted earlier and it plus one
other icon were not there. The second reboot was a complete power down
and now all seems fine. Sorry to put up my red flag.
 
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Nil

The icon for Microsoft Security Essentials has disappeared from
the notification area. I think it might have something to do with
a visitor, my son, but I really don't know. I've looked in the
Task Manager and it says that MSE is running. Also, if you
manually launch MSE from the the start menu, it too says that it
is running. Previously, the green icon was usually there, and when
it turned orange, I knew that it was time to scan. Anyone know
how I can bring it back? Thanks.
This is a semi-guess, 'cause I don't use Security Essentials...

Right-click on the System Tray area and choose Properties from the
context menu. There you can turn visibility of some icons off and on.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

This is a semi-guess, 'cause I don't use Security Essentials...

Right-click on the System Tray area and choose Properties from the
context menu. There you can turn visibility of some icons off and on.
No, that doesn't work when the above happens.

The only solution I've found is to reboot.

Some other applications and services can be stopped and restarted when
they don't make it to the System Tray at startup, but MSE is
recalcitrant that way.
 
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Larry__Weiss

This is a semi-guess, 'cause I don't use Security Essentials...

Right-click on the System Tray area and choose Properties from the
context menu. There you can turn visibility of some icons off and on.
I've had to do reboots sometimes just to get the speaker icon to show up in the tray.
I think that the boot sequence has some dice throws embedded in it.
 
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Jason

I've had to do reboots sometimes just to get the speaker icon to show up in the tray.
I think that the boot sequence has some dice throws embedded in it.
I have noticed that weirdness too. On several XP and Win 7 machines, I've
found that shutting down and turning off power and then restarting gives
a different result from simply doing a Restart. I'd love to know why.
 
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Nil

No, that doesn't work when the above happens.

The only solution I've found is to reboot.

Some other applications and services can be stopped and restarted
when they don't make it to the System Tray at startup, but MSE is
recalcitrant that way.
OK. I assumed he had already done that (rebooted), but maybe not.

I had something similar happen with Avast a few weeks ago. The System
Tray icon disappeared and didn't come back after a reboot. In order to
bring it back I had to go to Programs and Settings and tickle it by
changing one of its options. I don't know what caused it, but it's been
all right ever since.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

OK. I assumed he had already done that (rebooted), but maybe not.

I had something similar happen with Avast a few weeks ago. The System
Tray icon disappeared and didn't come back after a reboot. In order to
bring it back I had to go to Programs and Settings and tickle it by
changing one of its options. I don't know what caused it, but it's been
all right ever since.
He did and got the icon back. It was his second post, a reply to himself
(self-referent reply?).

My newsreader doesn't update automatically, so I often miss posts that
cross in the mail :)

Actually, it can do so, but my setup makes it impractical.

Anyway, if someone knows how to make MSE recreate its Notification Area
icon without a restart, I will love that person forever. Or at least for
five minutes...
 
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Gene E. Bloch

I have noticed that weirdness too. On several XP and Win 7 machines, I've
found that shutting down and turning off power and then restarting gives
a different result from simply doing a Restart. I'd love to know why.
I agree with you, and also with Larry__Weiss (about the aleatoric nature
of Windows 7 startups).
 
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OREALLY

Yes...I've noticed this for years. Rebooting is the only way to get it to
show up on the systray...But you never know with Windows.

Oreally

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

I have noticed that weirdness too. On several XP and Win 7 machines, I've
found that shutting down and turning off power and then restarting gives
a different result from simply doing a Restart. I'd love to know why.
I agree with you, and also with Larry__Weiss (about the aleatoric nature
of Windows 7 startups).
 
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Nil

Anyway, if someone knows how to make MSE recreate its Notification
Area icon without a restart, I will love that person forever. Or
at least for five minutes...
"Me love you long time"?
 
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Nil

Yes...I've noticed this for years. Rebooting is the only way to
get it to show up on the systray...But you never know with
Windows.
Sometimes you can get away with merely logging off, then back on. Not
always, though. I guess it has to do with at what level the errent
process runs. If it's a user-level crash, logging off will do. If it's
a system level crash, like a service, they you probably have to re-
boot.
 
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Ashton Crusher

Sorry, I may have asked this question too quickly. I rebooted and the
icon came back. Funny thing, I HAD rebooted earlier and it plus one
other icon were not there. The second reboot was a complete power down
and now all seems fine. Sorry to put up my red flag.

Are you running win8? I read that in Win8 a "reboot" does NOT reset
things as completely as a "shutdown" followed by a "boot". It's a way
for Win8 to reboot faster by not actually shutting everything down.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Sometimes you can get away with merely logging off, then back on. Not
always, though. I guess it has to do with at what level the errent
process runs. If it's a user-level crash, logging off will do. If it's
a system level crash, like a service, they you probably have to re-
boot.
Yeah, but then I have to type my password.

OK, I'm just having idle fun with the famous yes-but game :)
 
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Bob I

Yeah, but then I have to type my password.

OK, I'm just having idle fun with the famous yes-but game :)
Stopping and starting "msseces.exe" removed and reinstated the icon on
my system in the notification area.
 
C

Char Jackson

Yeah, but then I have to type my password.

OK, I'm just having idle fun with the famous yes-but game :)
I miss Valorie and wonder how she's doing. :)
 
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Art Todesco

Are you running win8? I read that in Win8 a "reboot" does NOT reset
things as completely as a "shutdown" followed by a "boot". It's a way
for Win8 to reboot faster by not actually shutting everything down.
I asked the question here because it is Windows 7. However, in W7 and
also in XP, I have seen instances as you described for W8. I'm sure
others have seen it too.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Stopping and starting "msseces.exe" removed and reinstated the icon on
my system in the notification area.
OK, I've saved the above, and I'll try it the next time the icon fails
to appear.

If it works, I'll love you forever (for some value of forever), as I
promised upthread somewhere :)

Funny that I haven't tried that on my own. Maybe I was too dumb to
decode the name - which is pretty dumb, isn't it. Especially since in
the Task Manager's description, it is identified as Microsoft Security
Client User Interface...
 
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Gene E. Bloch

OK, I've saved the above, and I'll try it the next time the icon fails
to appear.

If it works, I'll love you forever (for some value of forever), as I
promised upthread somewhere :)

Funny that I haven't tried that on my own. Maybe I was too dumb to
decode the name - which is pretty dumb, isn't it. Especially since in
the Task Manager's description, it is identified as Microsoft Security
Client User Interface...
OK, now I have to love you forever.

On booting just now, the Security Essentials icon failed to appear, and
I succeeded in getting it back using your method.
 
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