Screen returning to loginscreen after a few minutes


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Fokke Nauta

Hi all,

I have a laptop with Windows 7 Home. There are 2 user accounts. In one of
those there is Firedaemon installed, which launches VMware with XP Pro.
Thus, when I log into that account, I can work on XP in a virtual machine.
Works fine for me.
The problem is, that after a few minutes the screen turns black and the
Windows 7 login screen comes up. I need to login again, to allow me to go
back to my VM. This happens every few minutes and is highly irritating.
I tried to change the Windows 7 energy settings. I went to the Configuration
screen / Energy control (translated) / Balanced settings (default), change
settings and turned all settings for AC Power to "never". That's all I could
think of.
Unfortunately, after a few minutes the loginscreen keeps reappearing and
forces me to log in again, so I can terurn to my VM.
What can I do to prevent this login screen to pop up?

Thanks in advance for your help.

With kind regards,
Fokke Nauta
 
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Rob

Hi all,

I have a laptop with Windows 7 Home. There are 2 user accounts. In one of
those there is Firedaemon installed, which launches VMware with XP Pro.
Thus, when I log into that account, I can work on XP in a virtual machine.
Works fine for me.
The problem is, that after a few minutes the screen turns black and the
Windows 7 login screen comes up. I need to login again, to allow me to go
back to my VM. This happens every few minutes and is highly irritating.
I tried to change the Windows 7 energy settings. I went to the Configuration
screen / Energy control (translated) / Balanced settings (default), change
settings and turned all settings for AC Power to "never". That's all I could
think of.
Unfortunately, after a few minutes the loginscreen keeps reappearing and
forces me to log in again, so I can terurn to my VM.
What can I do to prevent this login screen to pop up?

Thanks in advance for your help.
I think you are on the right track with the Power Options,
but maybe a reboot is needed to make them stick?
Also see the "Require a password on wakeup" option, which you
can disable.

HTH
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Rob said:
I think you are on the right track with the Power Options,
but maybe a reboot is needed to make them stick?
I already did. Didn't make a difference.
Also see the "Require a password on wakeup" option, which you
can disable.
That sounds good. Where can I find that option in Windows 7?

Fokke
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Fokke Nauta said:
Hi all,

I have a laptop with Windows 7 Home. There are 2 user accounts. In
one of those there is Firedaemon installed, which launches VMware
with XP Pro. Thus, when I log into that account, I can work on XP in
a virtual machine. Works fine for me.
The problem is, that after a few minutes the screen turns black and
the Windows 7 login screen comes up. I need to login again, to allow
me to go back to my VM. This happens every few minutes and is highly
irritating.
I tried to change the Windows 7 energy settings. I went to the
Configuration screen / Energy control (translated) / Balanced
settings (default), change settings and turned all settings for AC
Power to "never". That's all I could think of.
Unfortunately, after a few minutes the loginscreen keeps reappearing
and forces me to log in again, so I can terurn to my VM.
What can I do to prevent this login screen to pop up?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Check the screensaver options, and make sure that it is not set to
require a password on resume.
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Rob said:
It's at the top left of the Power Options screen. See the image below
Step 3, here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/778-power-plan-settings-change.html
You might see other possibilities on that site, too.
Apparently, you can disable power management completely:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc527619.aspx
Thanks, Bob.
But I've already been there and checked that Require a password to wake up
(translated) is both "no" for battery and AC power.
I looked into more things there but did not find any other thing to prevent
logging in agani.

Fokke
 
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Fokke Nauta

Zaphod Beeblebrox said:
Check the screensaver options, and make sure that it is not set to require
a password on resume.
Sounds good as well. Where can I find the screensaver options in Windows 7 ?

Fokke
 
E

Ed Cryer

Thanks.
I found it. No screensaver was selected (none), and there was no mark in "On
resume, display login screen".
So, I guess the screensaver is not the cause?

Fokke
Have you tried the XP screensaver?

Ed
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Ed Cryer said:
Have you tried the XP screensaver?
Good idea.
Yes, there was a screensaver. Kicks in after 10 minutes. The laptop went
back to the Windows 7 login screen within a few minutes, but I disabled the
XP screensaver. And - ofcourse - no login after resume.
Now I type this, the laptop goes back to the Windows 7 login screen :-(

Fokke
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <9bq4kfFfc1U1@mid.individual.net>, Fokke Nauta
Thanks.
I found it. No screensaver was selected (none), and there was no mark in "On
resume, display login screen".
So, I guess the screensaver is not the cause?

Fokke
Sounds like that is related to the problem, though. Might be worth
turning it on, rebooting, and turning it off; IME, these things
sometimes don't stick.

Also: does the computer do this if you leave it unattended _without_
having started the VM?
 
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Ed Cryer

Good idea.
Yes, there was a screensaver. Kicks in after 10 minutes. The laptop went
back to the Windows 7 login screen within a few minutes, but I disabled the
XP screensaver. And - ofcourse - no login after resume.
Now I type this, the laptop goes back to the Windows 7 login screen :-(

Fokke
The laptop again, eh? The same one that has the shares problem?
I know we've only heard about these two problems here, and I guess other
things happen, but I can't help but think they're related in some way.

Where's the meeting point of these two vectors? X marks the spot.

Ed
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Ed Cryer said:
The laptop again, eh? The same one that has the shares problem?
Yeah, rou're right. Though the sharing problems have been solved.
I know we've only heard about these two problems here, and I guess other
things happen, but I can't help but think they're related in some way.
No, I don't think so.
When I work on the laptop the login screen never pops up.
But when I work on the virtual XP Machine, the login screen pops up. Windows
7 thinks nothing happens, so let's popup the login screen. Stand by or
something?
Where's the meeting point of these two vectors? X marks the spot.
You want me to draw an X on the laptop? No problem, I imagine it's there

Fokke
 
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Gene E. Bloch

The laptop again, eh? The same one that has the shares problem?
I know we've only heard about these two problems here, and I guess other
things happen, but I can't help but think they're related in some way.

Where's the meeting point of these two vectors? X marks the spot.

Ed

I'm beginning to wonder if X could be hardware, but that's wild
speculation (meaning I don't know how that could be).

Possibly a setting like "allow this device to wake the computer" on a
USB or Ethernet port?
 
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Fokke Nauta

Gene E. Bloch said:
I'm beginning to wonder if X could be hardware, but that's wild
speculation (meaning I don't know how that could be).

Possibly a setting like "allow this device to wake the computer" on a
USB or Ethernet port?
If I work in Windows 7, it never happens. But as soon as I work in VMware,
Windows 7 decides to return to the login screen. Stansby issue? As if
nothing happens. Perhaps W7 is not aware that VMWare is running and doing
something. Perhaps because VMWare is launched by Firedaemon as a service.

Fokke
 
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Ed Cryer

If I work in Windows 7, it never happens. But as soon as I work in VMware,
Windows 7 decides to return to the login screen. Stansby issue? As if
nothing happens. Perhaps W7 is not aware that VMWare is running and doing
something. Perhaps because VMWare is launched by Firedaemon as a service.

Fokke
You can check that in Task Manager.

Am I right in saying that the only other occasion when you're presented
with the login screen is when you boot Win7 on the laptop?
If so, it looks as if Win7 is somehow switching users.

Can you run VMware while still accessing the Win7 monitoring services?
Can you minimise the Firedaemon thing to the taskbar and be in full Win7
mode?

Ed
 
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Fokke Nauta

The laptop again, eh? The same one that has the shares problem?
I know we've only heard about these two problems here, and I guess other
things happen, but I can't help but think they're related in some way.
No, Windows 7 again. I forgot to tell you :)

Fokke
 
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Fokke Nauta

Ed Cryer said:
On 26/08/2011 21:42, Fokke Nauta wrote:


You can check that in Task Manager.
No.
VMWare doesn't show in the Task Manager because it's a service. That's
because it's started by Firedaemon. I can see it in Services. Up and
running.

Am I right in saying that the only other occasion when you're presented
with the login screen is when you boot Win7 on the laptop?
Yes.

If so, it looks as if Win7 is somehow switching users.
I think it's a sort of standby. But you could be right.
Can you run VMware while still accessing the Win7 monitoring services?
VMWare announces itself by a small screen called Interactive Services
Detection. If I click on "Show message" (translated) I get the full screen
of XP in VMWare.
VMWare is programmed to run the virtual machine in full screen mode.
Can you minimise the Firedaemon thing to the taskbar and be in full Win7
mode?
I can switch back to the screen in Windows 7. It's not by minimizing VMWare
but by switching back in the Interactive Services Detection screen to
Windows 7.

Fokke
 
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Ed Cryer

No.
VMWare doesn't show in the Task Manager because it's a service. That's
because it's started by Firedaemon. I can see it in Services. Up and
running.



I think it's a sort of standby. But you could be right.


VMWare announces itself by a small screen called Interactive Services
Detection. If I click on "Show message" (translated) I get the full screen
of XP in VMWare.
VMWare is programmed to run the virtual machine in full screen mode.


I can switch back to the screen in Windows 7. It's not by minimizing VMWare
but by switching back in the Interactive Services Detection screen to
Windows 7.

Fokke
So then, meiner kleiner Käseburger, it is true (nicht war?) that VMware
runs under Firedaemon, and the latter does not run inside Windows but in
its own space? Also denn, it's not a screensaver issue but an issue of
going outside and then back into Win7?

Ed
 

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