nVidia driver upgrade...?

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Pray....please tell....what and how????

He uses God Mode. He feels all the others are beneath him...

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Hachiroku.

Did the new motherboard solve the problem?

My newsreader says that you sent that last message at 10:30 PM today
(4/20/11) - but I'm reading it at 9:48 PM. The time stamp from your headers
says:
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:30:55 -0500

I'm about 50 miles south of Dell's home base, now on Central Daylight Time,
UTC-06:00. Where (in the world) are you?

A related question is: Why does it look like this thread was started by my
REPLY to your OP? I show my reply at 11:11 PM on 4/17/11, about 14 minutes
before your question at 12:25 AM on 4/18/2011.

RC
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"Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒ­ã‚¯" wrote in message

Hi, Hachiroku.

As a Dell field tech, I'm sure you understand that we need more error
description than just "bluescreen". :>(

What was the Stop Code? What was the "something about nVidia..." message?
Have you asked nVidia about this result from their new driver?

RC

I wasn't there and didn't see it. When I got there the system was just
in a constant state of reboots. It would get through the Dell splash
screen, present the XP screen, the crawler would crawl...stop...and reboot.

Safe mode was good, unloading the MS video driver stopped the reboots, and
loading the current nVidia driver didn't replicate the condition.

They sent me out with a new motherboard....

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hi, Hachiroku.

Did the new motherboard solve the problem?

Never had to use it! All I had to do was remove the MS nVidia driver and
install the Real Deal from nVidia, then tell the Windows Upgrade app to
ignore the nVidia driver from the upgrade stream.

My newsreader says that you sent that last message at 10:30 PM today
(4/20/11) - but I'm reading it at 9:48 PM. The time stamp from your
headers says:
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:30:55 -0500

I'm about 50 miles south of Dell's home base, now on Central Daylight
Time, UTC-06:00. Where (in the world) are you?

A related question is: Why does it look like this thread was started by
my REPLY to your OP? I show my reply at 11:11 PM on 4/17/11, about 14
minutes before your question at 12:25 AM on 4/18/2011.

ROFLMAO!!! Because, every time I close Linux and boot into the Windows
installation, Windows RESETS the time for what it THINKS Daylight savings
time is. I have turned the feature off in Windows, but it insists on
resetting the time.

My clock (in Linux) is currently right where it's supposed to be. It will
stay this way...until I boot Windows again...

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Sorry!.. No one else!.. Just You!.. My Question, Still Not Answered!

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer...

 

[Ashton Crusher]

Hey. I am a Dell field tech. I have a homemade unit with an nVidia 8800GT
(ASUS) video card, and after installing W7 I did the upgrades, and one of
them was a newer version nVidia driver, from Microsoft. After the upgrade
the system just kept rebooting. Now fully aware of WTF was going on, I did
a fresh install, did the upgrades again and...

I got called out to look at a desktop system, and the guy said it just
kept rebooting. Managed to get it into Safe Mode just fine, and then he
said "When it Bluescreened, it said something about nVidia..."

Luckily, he had rollback set up, so we did a rollback to just before the
last update and the system worked just fine. I set the rollback point, did
another update and...bluescreen. This time I saw the nVidia module error
myself. We did the rollback, rebooted, and then set the system so that any
further updates would NOT automatically install.

Last week, I did another one.

Doesn't anyone at Microsoft know about this? I don't know what video chip
he was using, but I know it happens on the 8600, 8800, and FX570 from
personal experience.

My view is NEVER NEVER let win update update your video. Always
download from the manufacturers site and update it that way. Last
time I tried updating my 8400 GS from windows update it crashed the
system, more or less the same thing you saw.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

No wonder you're an idiot.

It's best not to even respond to Alias.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Yousuf Khan]

I had one place that, every time they tried to run a video on the
projector, the video would go all wonky. I went out with a new mobo in
hand, and poked around a bit and found they were using Dell's version of
the nVidia driver. I downloaded the latest from the Dell website,
and..same thing.

Then I went to nVidia's website and downloaded the driver direct from
nVidia. THAT solved it! The problem got EVEN WORSEQ

That sometimes works, and sometimes it messes things up further. I
usually try to download from the following sites in this order: (1)
system OEM or motherboard mfg, (2) Microsoft, and (3) device mfg. This
is also the order in which you'll get the most conservative (oldest) to
least conservative (newest) drivers. Sometimes an older driver will be
be best option with the least new features and the least compatibility
problems, other times a newer driver is specifically released to fix
compatibility problems. So you have to decide based on that.

Since I have one of those cards in another system and last installed the
driver about 18 months ago, I went to nVidia's website and poked around
for ALL drivers for that particular card.

Here's the list of drivers:

Quadro Driver v270.61 WHQL NVIDIA Recommended 270.61 April 19, 2011


Quadro Driver v270.51 270.51 April 7, 2011


Quadro Driver v267.79 WHQL 267.79 April 5, 2011

Quadro Driver v267.66 WHQL 267.66 March 21, 2011


Quadro Driver v267.17 WHQL 267.17 March 2, 2011


Quadro Driver v267.05 WHQL 267.05 February 17, 2011


Quadro Driver v266.45 WHQL 266.45 January 12, 2011

Quadro Release 265 WHQL 266.35 January 10, 2011

Quadro Release 265 BETA 266.35 January 4, 2011

Kinda looks to me like they're having a small problem with this driver,
eh? If you drill down, they're constantly fixing the same issues, mostly
3D and DirectX 11(common to almost all of the listed drivers.)

I d/l and installed one from early 2010 and it worked perfectly.

Video drivers are the most complex drivers on a system. It gets
reflected in the software crash reports that get sent to Microsoft. At
one time, Nvidia was accounting for over 50% of the software crash
reports, much higher than its competitor AMD/ATI, or Intel.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Leon Manfredi]

I asked you first. Answering a question with another question doesn't
cut it.

You have just made me conclude, with that "I asked you first" bit,
you're just an attention getter....if not a fraud. Secondly, if knew,
that I needed to prepare prior to installing, (read my comments again
in my BALONEY section above and absorb) I wouldn't be asking for
support here. I'm sure there are others, who were willing to help,
but decline by reason of so miniscule a group, whose only purpose here
seems to be to ridicule and embarrass....a tactic which only serves to
destroy a conference. Sir, with your Serfdom, do you damndest....you
get no further attention from me to thrive on.

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

My view is NEVER NEVER let win update update your video. Always download
from the manufacturers site and update it that way. Last time I tried
updating my 8400 GS from windows update it crashed the system, more or
less the same thing you saw.

Hmmm...you're here, Yousef is here...do you guys play bass, too?


Believe me, if I had seen it coming, I would have stopped it. One of their
drivers for my NIC caused it to go wonky, too...

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Not true. When I make a mistake -- unlike you -- I admit it.

I didn't make a mistake. Microsoft did.

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Video drivers are the most complex drivers on a system. It gets reflected
in the software crash reports that get sent to Microsoft. At one time,
Nvidia was accounting for over 50% of the software crash reports, much
higher than its competitor AMD/ATI, or Intel.

Yousuf Khan

I used to love ATi ANYTHING; video, audio, whatever. A few years ago I
bought a new Radeon and installed it in my dual boot box, and Linux choked
on it big time. It took me THREE DAYS to figure out the correct sequence
of drivers to load to get acceleration and modes to work correctly. I
bought the used 8800GT from my guitar player, and gritted my teeth as I
installed it in a somewhat nicely working dual boot box (BTW, the ATi
driver was giving me issues in Windows, too...). I started Linux, saw a
line that said "Loading nVidia kernel drivers" and gritted harder...

A screen came up with a big "nVidia" logo, and without any further effort
on my part, I had a fully accelerated nVidia card running. Right off the
bat.

A few Linux installs later, and it's still running swell. Sometimes I have
to massage it for the big-screen modes (over 1600x1200) but overall, it's
fantastic.

ATi has to get their ship together to get back to where they were. AMD's
fault?

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

It's best not to even respond to Alias.

Yousuf Khan

I know. But I love fa@king with trolls.

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

What, exactly, did I post that was incorrect?

Jeese...where do I start?

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

You work for Microsoft? I thought you said you work for Dell.

Yeah. I do. They have their drivers on their web site. You said to
download the coorect one from nVidia. Not exactly in company policy, only
as a last resort.

I know your next dropping: then why did you use MS's update?
Why not? isn't the Biggest supposed to be the Best?

I can't help it if you can't handle the truth.

No, I can't handle that you're a shot-out idiot. Now go away. you
irritating man.

 

[Ashton Crusher]

Hmmm...you're here, Yousef is here...do you guys play bass, too?

Sometimes it seems like there are only 300 people still using USENET
and they are on almost every group !!

Believe me, if I had seen it coming, I would have stopped it. One of their
drivers for my NIC caused it to go wonky, too...

Funny, I had that happen too.

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Really? And what "mistake" might that be?

I would have thought you would have it all sussed by now.

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Translation: he can't think of one thing.

Well, when you actually SAY something, I'll let you know.

So far all you've posted is dribble, non sequiters, and "I could have told
you that"s.

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Sometimes it seems like there are only 300 people still using USENET and
they are on almost every group !!



Funny, I had that happen too.

The biggest isn't always the best.

Funny thing is, every once in a while I run into a shoddy 'native' driver
in Linux, but more often than not, everything just /works/ .

 

[Yousuf Khan]

I used to love ATi ANYTHING; video, audio, whatever. A few years ago I
bought a new Radeon and installed it in my dual boot box, and Linux choked
on it big time. It took me THREE DAYS to figure out the correct sequence
of drivers to load to get acceleration and modes to work correctly. I
bought the used 8800GT from my guitar player, and gritted my teeth as I
installed it in a somewhat nicely working dual boot box (BTW, the ATi
driver was giving me issues in Windows, too...). I started Linux, saw a
line that said "Loading nVidia kernel drivers" and gritted harder...

A screen came up with a big "nVidia" logo, and without any further effort
on my part, I had a fully accelerated nVidia card running. Right off the
bat.

A few Linux installs later, and it's still running swell. Sometimes I have
to massage it for the big-screen modes (over 1600x1200) but overall, it's
fantastic.

ATi has to get their ship together to get back to where they were. AMD's
fault?

I haven't really had any issues with video drivers in Linux, either ATI
or Nvidia. Both have worked fine out of the box on Linux. If you had any
issues with ATI a few years ago, it may have been solved now, as AMD has
now open-sourced their drivers to the Linux community since about 3
years ago. Prior to that all of its drivers were closed-source. Nvidia's
are still closed-source.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

I haven't really had any issues with video drivers in Linux, either ATI or
Nvidia. Both have worked fine out of the box on Linux. If you had any
issues with ATI a few years ago, it may have been solved now, as AMD has
now open-sourced their drivers to the Linux community since about 3 years
ago. Prior to that all of its drivers were closed-source. Nvidia's are
still closed-source.

Yousuf Khan

I had a real bear getting acceleration running properly in Ubuntu and
another distribution (can't remember now). Too bad, because I really like
ATi stuff...

Gave me SUCH a hard time that now I avoid ATi!