Need help finding a specific support article on basic fundamentals

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Ken Springer

I'm sure there are people grumbling about the title/subject here, but
more specificity would probably be counter productive.

The question applies to all versions of Windows, probably starting with
Windows 95. I'm posting in the Windows 7 area as I was researching Win
7 items when I found the support article I'm now looking for and cannot
find.

Over the last two months, I've been researching Win 7's libraries,
document relocation, and system backup (not system restore points).

For years, I've been telling everyone that would listen, a smarter data
storage model is to put the user's data on a drive other than C:\.
Doing so would mean quicker reinstallation of the operating system if
needed, smaller boot drive/partition making back ups of that partition
faster, better protection of your documents from malware, etc.

And, of course, I take hits all the time with people telling me that's
not necessary.

During the web searching, I stumbled upon an MS article that, buried in
the text of the article, is exactly what I've been saying all these
years. Now that I want to reference this article, download it in fact,
I can't find it. It clearly stated that for some users, storage of data
somewhere other than C:\ was beneficial.

I thought I'd bookmarked it, but apparently not. Neither can I find it
listed in my browser's history. :-(

I thought it might be in the technet area, but I haven't found it there
either.

Does this ring a bell with anyone's memory? It's there somewhere! LOL
--
Ken

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J

Jason

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:48:04 -0600 "Ken Springer"
I'm sure there are people grumbling about the title/subject here, but
more specificity would probably be counter productive.

The question applies to all versions of Windows, probably starting with
Windows 95. I'm posting in the Windows 7 area as I was researching Win
7 items when I found the support article I'm now looking for and cannot
find.

Over the last two months, I've been researching Win 7's libraries,
document relocation, and system backup (not system restore points).

For years, I've been telling everyone that would listen, a smarter data
storage model is to put the user's data on a drive other than C:\.
Doing so would mean quicker reinstallation of the operating system if
needed, smaller boot drive/partition making back ups of that partition
faster, better protection of your documents from malware, etc.

And, of course, I take hits all the time with people telling me that's
not necessary.

During the web searching, I stumbled upon an MS article that, buried in
the text of the article, is exactly what I've been saying all these
years. Now that I want to reference this article, download it in fact,
I can't find it. It clearly stated that for some users, storage of data
somewhere other than C:\ was beneficial.

I thought I'd bookmarked it, but apparently not. Neither can I find it
listed in my browser's history. :-(

I thought it might be in the technet area, but I haven't found it there
either.

Does this ring a bell with anyone's memory? It's there somewhere! LOL
Click to expand...
I don't know where it is, but if you find it please post! Necrosoft's
insistence on placing user data on C: is way way out of date now,
especially with solid-state drives beginning to find their way into
people's pc's. I have been moving that stuff off C: for years and years
and have written to MS a few times to suggest that they might at least
make it easier. Am I surprised that I receive no response? no....
 
G

Good Guy

Basic fundamentals?

Are you looking for info about the "basic" computer language? Please
clarify. There used to be a language called Basic in Dos environment
and now it is called visual basic. You can download it free of charge
from Microsoft website. Look/Search for Express Edition.

Good luck.
 
K

Ken Springer

If you read my post, I'm looking for a specific article regarding the
wisdom of putting data on another drive. That should be, IMO, computer
basics.

Basic language used to be everywhere. Took a programming class on it oh
so many years ago. 8 bit days.+


Basic fundamentals?

Are you looking for info about the "basic" computer language? Please
clarify. There used to be a language called Basic in Dos environment
and now it is called visual basic. You can download it free of charge
from Microsoft website. Look/Search for Express Edition.

Good luck.
Click to expand...

--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 19.0.2
Thunderbird 17.0.4
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2
 
K

Ken Springer

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:48:04 -0600 "Ken Springer"


I don't know where it is, but if you find it please post! Necrosoft's
insistence on placing user data on C: is way way out of date now,
especially with solid-state drives beginning to find their way into
people's pc's. I have been moving that stuff off C: for years and years
and have written to MS a few times to suggest that they might at least
make it easier. Am I surprised that I receive no response? no....
Click to expand...
Hopefully, someone reading this will find it first, and post. I have
the same post up on the social answers forum at MS.

I don't actually find it hard to relocate the documents stuff, just
damned time consuming.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 19.0.2
Thunderbird 17.0.4
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2
 
G

Ghostrider01

I'm sure there are people grumbling about the title/subject here, but
more specificity would probably be counter productive.

The question applies to all versions of Windows, probably starting with
Windows 95. I'm posting in the Windows 7 area as I was researching Win
7 items when I found the support article I'm now looking for and cannot
find.

Over the last two months, I've been researching Win 7's libraries,
document relocation, and system backup (not system restore points).

For years, I've been telling everyone that would listen, a smarter data
storage model is to put the user's data on a drive other than C:\. Doing
so would mean quicker reinstallation of the operating system if needed,
smaller boot drive/partition making back ups of that partition faster,
better protection of your documents from malware, etc.

And, of course, I take hits all the time with people telling me that's
not necessary.

During the web searching, I stumbled upon an MS article that, buried in
the text of the article, is exactly what I've been saying all these
years. Now that I want to reference this article, download it in fact,
I can't find it. It clearly stated that for some users, storage of data
somewhere other than C:\ was beneficial.

I thought I'd bookmarked it, but apparently not. Neither can I find it
listed in my browser's history. :-(

I thought it might be in the technet area, but I haven't found it there
either.

Does this ring a bell with anyone's memory? It's there somewhere! LOL
Click to expand...
This was discussed many, many years ago in the days of MS-DOS, when
it became possible to partition the hard drive into a primary partition
and an extended partition. With the data on the extended partition, it
was far easier running a backup from the command prompt with BACKUP
or XCOPY, for example. It meant far fewer 5.25" or 3.5" diskettes when
the system and application files, usually on Drive C, were not included.

GR
 
W

...winston

I've a few things archived (not sure if any meet your need)

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825122.aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825122.aspx#DataPartition

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/what-are-partitions-and-logical-drives

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929831

http://lifehacker.com/5271338/separate-your-data-from-windows-on-a-standalone-partition

http://www.pcworld.com/article/159954/move_data_new_partition.html



--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps


"Ken Springer" wrote in message
I'm sure there are people grumbling about the title/subject here, but
more specificity would probably be counter productive.

The question applies to all versions of Windows, probably starting with
Windows 95. I'm posting in the Windows 7 area as I was researching Win
7 items when I found the support article I'm now looking for and cannot
find.

Over the last two months, I've been researching Win 7's libraries,
document relocation, and system backup (not system restore points).

For years, I've been telling everyone that would listen, a smarter data
storage model is to put the user's data on a drive other than C:\.
Doing so would mean quicker reinstallation of the operating system if
needed, smaller boot drive/partition making back ups of that partition
faster, better protection of your documents from malware, etc.

And, of course, I take hits all the time with people telling me that's
not necessary.

During the web searching, I stumbled upon an MS article that, buried in
the text of the article, is exactly what I've been saying all these
years. Now that I want to reference this article, download it in fact,
I can't find it. It clearly stated that for some users, storage of data
somewhere other than C:\ was beneficial.

I thought I'd bookmarked it, but apparently not. Neither can I find it
listed in my browser's history. :-(

I thought it might be in the technet area, but I haven't found it there
either.

Does this ring a bell with anyone's memory? It's there somewhere! LOL
--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 19.0
Thunderbird 17.0.3
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2
 
K

Ken Springer

I've a few things archived (not sure if any meet your need)

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825122.aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825122.aspx#DataPartition

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/what-are-partitions-and-logical-drives

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929831

http://lifehacker.com/5271338/separate-your-data-from-windows-on-a-standalone-partition

http://www.pcworld.com/article/159954/move_data_new_partition.html
Click to expand...
Thanks for the effort, Winston, but none of these is the article I was
thinking of.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 19.0.2
Thunderbird 17.0.4
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2
 
C

charlie

Thanks for the effort, Winston, but none of these is the article I was
thinking of.
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I'm an "oldtimer", and faintly remember the issue.
It was thought that partitions and directories would solve the problem,
as "most" P/C's of the time had a single hard drive, and low capacity
removable storage media. After all, most users data files would fit on
one or two "floppys". Networks existed in business, schools, and so
forth, with many of the applications resident on a network server.

Then there was a necessity to "backup". First, it was thought that the
major issue was to backup only user unique data, since the ops system
stuff was sort of stable, and the major apps resided on a server.

For individual use, a "complete" backup was not too bad, other than
finding enough removable storage (floppys) to back up a 20-40 meg HD, or
using a tape drive.

Moving on, the variety of hardware exploded, and anti-piracy became a
concern. Together, these increased the need for a "configured" backup,
instead of a generic one. And just to add insult, not a few of the
backup methods didn't work well under all conditions.
 
R

richard

Basic fundamentals?

Are you looking for info about the "basic" computer language? Please
clarify. There used to be a language called Basic in Dos environment
and now it is called visual basic. You can download it free of charge
from Microsoft website. Look/Search for Express Edition.

Good luck.
Click to expand...
How does his question relate to the BASIC computer language?

Back in the day of the Atari 400, which I had, it used GW basic.
MS-Dos BASIC was kind of so so.
Then along came basic 4.5 which took BASIC into the next level, and it
vanished into thin air.
Visual Basic was and is a higher level version with a lot more bells and
whistles.
But about the only place you can use it today is with IE.

Then, there is Liberty Basic, which I love, and it works quite well in
windows with no Dos required.
 
K

Ken Springer

How does his question relate to the BASIC computer language?

Back in the day of the Atari 400, which I had, it used GW basic.
MS-Dos BASIC was kind of so so.
Then along came basic 4.5 which took BASIC into the next level, and it
vanished into thin air.
Visual Basic was and is a higher level version with a lot more bells and
whistles.
But about the only place you can use it today is with IE.

Then, there is Liberty Basic, which I love, and it works quite well in
windows with no Dos required.
Click to expand...
You forgot Atari Basic. I used that on an Atari 800 to do the
programming class I mentioned. Still have 2 800's. :)


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 19.0.2
Thunderbird 17.0.4
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2
 
P

philo 

G

Gene E. Bloch

On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:48:04 -0600 "Ken Springer"


I don't know where it is, but if you find it please post! Necrosoft's
insistence on placing user data on C: is way way out of date now,
especially with solid-state drives beginning to find their way into
people's pc's. I have been moving that stuff off C: for years and years
and have written to MS a few times to suggest that they might at least
make it easier. Am I surprised that I receive no response? no....
Click to expand...
I normally get annoyed at people who mess up Microsft's name out of
sarcasm or hatred or whatever, but I will make an exception in your
case.

Necrosoft. That is *funny*...
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

You forgot Atari Basic. I used that on an Atari 800 to do the
programming class I mentioned. Still have 2 800's. :)
Click to expand...
Let's not forget Basic on Apple ][ and other hobby computers of that
era.

No, I take it back. I'd prefer to forget it :)

I also have programmed in Basic on Palm PDAs, but (obviously) not
recently...
 
J

JJ

I'm sure there are people grumbling about the title/subject here, but
more specificity would probably be counter productive.

The question applies to all versions of Windows, probably starting with
Windows 95. I'm posting in the Windows 7 area as I was researching Win
7 items when I found the support article I'm now looking for and cannot
find.

Over the last two months, I've been researching Win 7's libraries,
document relocation, and system backup (not system restore points).

For years, I've been telling everyone that would listen, a smarter data
storage model is to put the user's data on a drive other than C:\.
Doing so would mean quicker reinstallation of the operating system if
needed, smaller boot drive/partition making back ups of that partition
faster, better protection of your documents from malware, etc.

And, of course, I take hits all the time with people telling me that's
not necessary.

During the web searching, I stumbled upon an MS article that, buried in
the text of the article, is exactly what I've been saying all these
years. Now that I want to reference this article, download it in fact,
I can't find it. It clearly stated that for some users, storage of data
somewhere other than C:\ was beneficial.

I thought I'd bookmarked it, but apparently not. Neither can I find it
listed in my browser's history. :-(

I thought it might be in the technet area, but I haven't found it there
either.

Does this ring a bell with anyone's memory? It's there somewhere! LOL
Click to expand...
This may be a bit technical, but it does mention some things that you're
looking for.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896528

If not, do you remember any part of phrases from that article that you've
found and lost? If you remember some, google it with the phrase surrounded
by double quotes.
 
S

Stan Brown

Hi, Ken! I wasn't able to find an article that plausibly matched
your criteria, but a Google search for "relocating application data"
(no quotes) produced a bunch of good information that might make a
21st-century bookmark.
 
K

Ken Springer

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825172.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825230.aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc783917(v=ws.10).aspx
Click to expand...
Thanks, Larry, but no luck with these.

I've spent most of the day, going though my bookmarks and history, and
so far with no luck. :-(

I'll get them all checked before I give up this route. Bet it's driving
my ISP nuts! LOL


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 19.0.2
Thunderbird 17.0.4
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2
 
K

Ken Springer

This may be a bit technical, but it does mention some things that you're
looking for.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896528

If not, do you remember any part of phrases from that article that you've
found and lost? If you remember some, google it with the phrase surrounded
by double quotes.
Click to expand...
Thanks, JJ, but no luck with that article either.

Searching on various phrases before posting here had come up blank. I'm
hoping that, in the middle of the night during a deep sleep, a bright
light goes off and I remember where it is! LOL

A couple of the suggestions here have resulted in bookmarks for pages
"up one level" to go back to and do in depth reading. I may be forced
to doing that in the end.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 19.0.2
Thunderbird 17.0.4
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2
 
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