lost internet access


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dilbert firestorm

can someone give me an idea what's going on here?

last week, I lost internet access. I have a win7 laptop and a OS/2
warp/Win98 machine hooked to a dlink wbr-2310 router and arescom netdsl
800 dsl modem.

the strange part was both machines could not access both the router and
modem. i could not pull up the config pages for both machines. I did
reboot both the modem, router and 2 pcs. nothing worked, I even
bypassed the router, and hooked the cable directly to the modem and
rebooted. nothing worked.

I did contact my dsl provider and the technician told me that they are
able to communicated with the modem from their end. He felt that the
problem was on my computer. I did forget to mention to the tech that I
had another computer that I couldn't access the internet from.

the computers network is setup for dynamic pppoe and wasn't getting the
dynamic ip addresses. win7 diagonstic did report that the network had an
invalid ip address.

I did check aroung with ping & ipconfig to see what it reported. I
noticed that the submask did not look right. I think it was supposed to
look like 255.255.255.0, it was reporting the lan card had a submask of
255.255.0.0.

late wednesday nite, I managed to get some internet access back in a
dinky way by accident.

I didn't see any way to delete the current network setup. I ended up
making another network setup, a broadband connection thru vpn
connection. thru the dsl modem. oddly enough, that connection worked.
however, I could not pull down the modems config page (192.168.1.1).


the vpn connection made me enter the authenication codes my provider
gave me, something I never had to do either with the modem & router.

obviously, something is messed up on my laptop
 
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dilbert firestorm

can someone give me an idea what's going on here?

last week, I lost internet access. I have a win7 laptop and a OS/2
warp/Win98 machine hooked to a dlink wbr-2310 router and arescom netdsl
800 dsl modem.

the strange part was both machines could not access both the router and
modem. i could not pull up the config pages for both machines. I did
reboot both the modem, router and 2 pcs. nothing worked, I even
bypassed the router, and hooked the cable directly to the modem and
rebooted. nothing worked.

I did contact my dsl provider and the technician told me that they are
able to communicated with the modem from their end. He felt that the
problem was on my computer. I did forget to mention to the tech that I
had another computer that I couldn't access the internet from.

the computers network is setup for dynamic pppoe and wasn't getting the
dynamic ip addresses. win7 diagonstic did report that the network had an
invalid ip address.

I did check aroung with ping& ipconfig to see what it reported. I
noticed that the submask did not look right. I think it was supposed to
look like 255.255.255.0, it was reporting the lan card had a submask of
255.255.0.0.

late wednesday nite, I managed to get some internet access back in a
dinky way by accident.

I didn't see any way to delete the current network setup. I ended up
making another network setup, a broadband connection thru vpn
connection. thru the dsl modem. oddly enough, that connection worked.
however, I could not pull down the modems config page (192.168.1.1).


the vpn connection made me enter the authenication codes my provider
gave me, something I never had to do either with the modem& router.

obviously, something is messed up on my laptop
forgot to mention this dinky way of connection.

the network reports an unidentified network on the lan card.

the dial up/vpn connects thru a wan mini-port.
 
C

Char Jackson

can someone give me an idea what's going on here?
Do you have a third PC that you're using through the same
router/modem? How are you accessing Usenet to post your questions? If
a third PC works, it will help narrow the search.
last week, I lost internet access. I have a win7 laptop and a OS/2
warp/Win98 machine hooked to a dlink wbr-2310 router and arescom netdsl
800 dsl modem.
Both are wired connections?
the strange part was both machines could not access both the router and
modem. i could not pull up the config pages for both machines. I did
reboot both the modem, router and 2 pcs. nothing worked, I even
bypassed the router, and hooked the cable directly to the modem and
rebooted. nothing worked.
In the first sentence, "both machines" refers to the two PCs. In the
second sentence, "both machines" refers to the router and the DSL
modem. When you bypassed the router with one PC and rebooted, what was
it that you rebooted? You may have had to reboot the modem first,
followed by the directly-connected PC, in order for the test to be
valid.

If both PCs are connected (wired) directly to the router, (actually to
the switch in the router), then they should at least be able to
communicate with each other, even if they can't communicate with the
router's config pages or access the Internet. Did you verify that the
two PCs can communicate with each other?
I did contact my dsl provider and the technician told me that they are
able to communicated with the modem from their end. He felt that the
problem was on my computer. I did forget to mention to the tech that I
had another computer that I couldn't access the internet from.
People who mess up a PC are frequently able to mess up a second PC
while attempting to repair the first. :) It does sound like the
problem is your PC (or PCs).
the computers network is setup for dynamic pppoe and wasn't getting the
dynamic ip addresses. win7 diagonstic did report that the network had an
invalid ip address.
The router may be set up for "dynamic pppoe" (to talk with the DSL
modem) but with the router in place your PCs should not be configured
that way. With the router in place, your PCs should have no clue that
PPPOE is being used. They should be configured for a vanilla TCP/IP
local network, accessing the Internet through a gateway.
I did check aroung with ping & ipconfig to see what it reported.
The outputs of those tests would be extremely helpful, especially the
output from "ipconfig /all".
I noticed that the submask did not look right. I think it was supposed
to look like 255.255.255.0, it was reporting the lan card had a submask
of 255.255.0.0.
All of the ipconfig information needs to be considered as a whole, but
I would certainly expect the subnet masks to be the same for both PCs.
Just as important, though, is the IP address of each PC, their actual
respective subnet masks, their gateway IP's, and perhaps their DNS
IP's. The outputs of "ipconfig /all" from each PC will help here.

You seem to imply that your ping tests failed in both directions. The
ipconfig info will tell us why.
late wednesday nite, I managed to get some internet access back in a
dinky way by accident.

I didn't see any way to delete the current network setup. I ended up
making another network setup, a broadband connection thru vpn
connection. thru the dsl modem. oddly enough, that connection worked.
however, I could not pull down the modems config page (192.168.1.1).
If indeed you managed to set up a VPN tunnel, it's likely that your
DSL modem is outside of that tunnel and therefore not visible. I
suggest you remove the VPN configuration or otherwise ignore it until
you repair the obvious networking damage.
the vpn connection made me enter the authenication codes my provider
gave me, something I never had to do either with the modem & router.
Of course. Your router was previously doing that for you. With the
router out of the path, the PC has to do it.
obviously, something is messed up on my laptop
The thing that both PCs have in common is the person who is working on
them, so if one is messed up, and it sounds like it is, then the other
likely is, too. They should be able to be sorted out with some
ipconfig output.
 
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dilbert firestorm

Do you have a third PC that you're using through the same
router/modem? How are you accessing Usenet to post your questions? If
a third PC works, it will help narrow the search.
I did have a 3rd machine which I've recently retired, a win98se Intel
P2-350 machine which I had problems getting a normal windows after a
reboot. I just gave up on restoring win98 to nomral. I did test it
under safe-windows. It would not work with the modem-router combo or
modem only.
Both are wired connections?
yes.

it is looking more like the router failed. the dlink wbr-2310 is a
wireless router. I just tested it with the laptop without the cable.
it is not seeing the router's wireless id, it is picking up other
wireless ids in the area.

In the first sentence, "both machines" refers to the two PCs. In the
second sentence, "both machines" refers to the router and the DSL
modem. When you bypassed the router with one PC and rebooted, what was
it that you rebooted? You may have had to reboot the modem first,
followed by the directly-connected PC, in order for the test to be
valid.
for your reference, the OS/2-win98 machine is a Intel P3-1G. OS/2 &
win98 are on seperate partitions. both of those partitions have been
tested and I haven't been using them too much since I got the laptop
and have not changed any settings on this machine.

I rebooted the devices to each machine (Laptop & P3) separately in the
order you mentioned in both combos (modem-router and modem only).
..
If both PCs are connected (wired) directly to the router, (actually to
the switch in the router), then they should at least be able to
communicate with each other, even if they can't communicate with the
router's config pages or access the Internet. Did you verify that the
two PCs can communicate with each other?
I've never tried that part. I'm aware that this can be done, but I was
never able to get it working under the OS/2 - win98 machines (the
retired one).

win7 - OS/2 networking is just not there yet. however, I don't know
about the win7 - win98 networking.
People who mess up a PC are frequently able to mess up a second PC
while attempting to repair the first. :) It does sound like the
problem is your PC (or PCs).
Not on the OS/2 machine, It is particularly sensitive to networking
mishaps. When OS/2 boots up, its looks for the IP address during
bootup, if it doesn't find dhcp address. it halts the boot up temporarily.

I've not also altered anything on the win98 partition too.
The router may be set up for "dynamic pppoe" (to talk with the DSL
modem) but with the router in place your PCs should not be configured
that way. With the router in place, your PCs should have no clue that
PPPOE is being used. They should be configured for a vanilla TCP/IP
local network, accessing the Internet through a gateway.
automatic ip is dynamic. that's the only thing TCP/IP looks on the
laptop. the router and/or modem handles the handshaking protocols like
PPPoe. I get that part.
The outputs of those tests would be extremely helpful, especially the
output from "ipconfig /all".


All of the ipconfig information needs to be considered as a whole, but
I would certainly expect the subnet masks to be the same for both PCs.
Just as important, though, is the IP address of each PC, their actual
respective subnet masks, their gateway IP's, and perhaps their DNS
IP's. The outputs of "ipconfig /all" from each PC will help here.

You seem to imply that your ping tests failed in both directions. The
ipconfig info will tell us why.


If indeed you managed to set up a VPN tunnel, it's likely that your
DSL modem is outside of that tunnel and therefore not visible. I
suggest you remove the VPN configuration or otherwise ignore it until
you repair the obvious networking damage.
the vpn obviously is a temporary solution until I get the underlying
problem fixed.

I'll post the IPconfig results.
 
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dilbert firestorm

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

PPP adapter Broadband Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadband Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 209.205.154.233(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.231.96.12
209.16.64.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 06-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-43-D2-53-8E
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 345040570
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-12-63-F3-8D-00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR928X Wireless Network
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{E1A33FE7-EEA0-4450-BDB7-05126037B18E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2C4930A1-D160-46B3-B94C-2D540EAC3730}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C8C07DD7-1008-4B67-BF0F-05C5AB29B0D7}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{ADE1703D-7F16-4F6C-A147-DE384829C237}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter 6TO4 Adapter:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2002:d1cd:9ae9::d1cd:9ae9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.231.96.12
209.16.64.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2DC56702-EBEA-4C22-BB67-A03B2D113B9E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
 
C

C.Joseph Drayton

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

PPP adapter Broadband Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadband Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 209.205.154.233(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.231.96.12
209.16.64.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 06-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-43-D2-53-8E
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 345040570
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-12-63-F3-8D-00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{E1A33FE7-EEA0-4450-BDB7-05126037B18E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2C4930A1-D160-46B3-B94C-2D540EAC3730}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C8C07DD7-1008-4B67-BF0F-05C5AB29B0D7}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{ADE1703D-7F16-4F6C-A147-DE384829C237}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter 6TO4 Adapter:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:d1cd:9ae9::d1cd:9ae9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.231.96.12
209.16.64.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2DC56702-EBEA-4C22-BB67-A03B2D113B9E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
If I am understanding correctly, it sounds like your 'dlink wbr-2310
router' does not DHCP turned on. Basically, you need for your router to
give each device connecting to it an IP address.

The easy way to do this is to have DHCP turned on in the router, then
have the computer set up to to have its IP assigned automatically. From
the report you published the network devices are set up for automatic
DHCP, you did not though give us the settings for the dlink wbr-2310
router. On page 27 of your router's manual (can be found at;
http://www.netwood.net/support/manuals/D-Link_WBR2310_manual_10.pdf ),
you will find instructions for ensuring/enabling that the router's DHCP
server is activated.

Sincerely,
C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

CSD Computer Services

Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
E-mail: (e-mail address removed)90.net
 
C

Char Jackson

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

PPP adapter Broadband Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadband Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 209.205.154.233(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.231.96.12
209.16.64.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but with a router between
your PC and DSL modem, you shouldn't need (or be using) this PPP
connection. Once you disable or remove this connection, your Local
Area Connection (see below) might start working. As it is now, the
connection below is trying to request an IP address, netmask, and the
rest of the DHCP info from your router, but is unable to get a
response.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
This was only one computer. Would it confuse things if we got to see
what information the 2nd computer has for 'ipconfig /all'?
 
F

Flint

I did have a 3rd machine which I've recently retired, a win98se Intel
P2-350 machine which I had problems getting a normal windows after a
reboot. I just gave up on restoring win98 to nomral. I did test it
under safe-windows. It would not work with the modem-router combo or
modem only.


yes.

it is looking more like the router failed. the dlink wbr-2310 is a
wireless router. I just tested it with the laptop without the cable.
it is not seeing the router's wireless id, it is picking up other
wireless ids in the area.

Could be the router has SSID broadcasting disabled.


for your reference, the OS/2-win98 machine is a Intel P3-1G. OS/2 &
win98 are on seperate partitions. both of those partitions have been
tested and I haven't been using them too much since I got the laptop
and have not changed any settings on this machine.

I rebooted the devices to each machine (Laptop & P3) separately in the
order you mentioned in both combos (modem-router and modem only).
.
Good idea. It's not like individual ports in switches, or routers
with switches haven't been known to go bad. Or possibly
mistaking/plugging into one of the router's LAN switch ports (instead
of the WAN/Internet port when connecting it to a cable/DSL modem.
I've done that often when working in low light situations and dealing
with a pile of cable spaghetti.
 
F

Flint

Another possibility to check for: Make sure you're not using a
crossover type ethernet cable by mistake. I'm not familiar with his
DLink router, so I don't know if this applicable or not, but some
switches/routers have a 5th 'uplink' port intended for cascaded
switch/router use. These ports are usually paralleled in with port
4, but can't be used simultaneously with port 5, and are usually there
in lieu of MDI/MDI-X auto-detection. In effect mistakenly using this
would be the same as mistakenly using a crossover cable.
 
C

Char Jackson

I did have a 3rd machine which I've recently retired, a win98se Intel
P2-350 machine which I had problems getting a normal windows after a
reboot. I just gave up on restoring win98 to nomral. I did test it
under safe-windows. It would not work with the modem-router combo or
modem only.
In the interest of not clouding the issues any further, I'll refrain
from asking what you mean by "it would not work". I suppose you'd
rather focus on the other two PCs.

yes.

it is looking more like the router failed. the dlink wbr-2310 is a
wireless router. I just tested it with the laptop without the cable.
it is not seeing the router's wireless id, it is picking up other
wireless ids in the area.
If it were me, I'd do a full reset on the router to return all of the
settings to their defaults. If the router is working but the
configuration is messed up, that would restore its ability to hand out
DHCP info to your computers but you'd likely have to change the
default WAN config from dynamic IP to PPPOE again in order to get more
than LAN connectivity.

for your reference, the OS/2-win98 machine is a Intel P3-1G. OS/2 &
win98 are on seperate partitions. both of those partitions have been
tested and I haven't been using them too much since I got the laptop
and have not changed any settings on this machine.

I rebooted the devices to each machine (Laptop & P3) separately in the
order you mentioned in both combos (modem-router and modem only).
Did you remember to reboot the PC during this test?

I've never tried that part. I'm aware that this can be done, but I was
never able to get it working under the OS/2 - win98 machines (the
retired one).

win7 - OS/2 networking is just not there yet. however, I don't know
about the win7 - win98 networking.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Once both PCs are configured
properly, basic IP connectivity should work between them, right?

Not on the OS/2 machine, It is particularly sensitive to networking
mishaps. When OS/2 boots up, its looks for the IP address during
bootup, if it doesn't find dhcp address. it halts the boot up temporarily.

I've not also altered anything on the win98 partition too.

automatic ip is dynamic. that's the only thing TCP/IP looks on the
laptop. the router and/or modem handles the handshaking protocols like
PPPoe. I get that part.
I'm not sure what you're saying. Before, you said that the "computers
network" is set up for "dynamic pppoe". That sounds wrong to me. Just
above, you say that the router (or modem?? huh?) is handling PPPoE.
Just do PPPoE in one place: in the router if the router is connected,
or in _ONE_ PC if the router is removed.

To use more than one computer at a time for Internet access, you'll
want the router in the path. With that in mind, let the router handle
the PPPoE stuff and disable that on each PC.

The output of 'ipconfig /all' would be handy to see for each PC, and
some info regarding how the router is configured would be nice, too,
especially the part about its DHCP settings.
 
C

Char Jackson

Another possibility to check for: Make sure you're not using a
crossover type ethernet cable by mistake. I'm not familiar with his
DLink router, so I don't know if this applicable or not, but some
switches/routers have a 5th 'uplink' port intended for cascaded
switch/router use. These ports are usually paralleled in with port
4, but can't be used simultaneously with port 5, and are usually there
in lieu of MDI/MDI-X auto-detection. In effect mistakenly using this
would be the same as mistakenly using a crossover cable.
The WAN port is right next to the LAN ports, so some care would have
to be taken when connecting the various cables, but this router does
at least have Auto MDI-MDI-X detection, so at least we shouldn't be
dealing with that.

Link to manual, with pics:
<http://www.netwood.net/support/manuals/D-Link_WBR2310_manual_10.pdf>
 
F

Flint

The WAN port is right next to the LAN ports, so some care would have
to be taken when connecting the various cables, but this router does
at least have Auto MDI-MDI-X detection, so at least we shouldn't be
dealing with that.

Link to manual, with pics:
<http://www.netwood.net/support/manuals/D-Link_WBR2310_manual_10.pdf>
Thanks for the link. It appears it is not that ancient, or or uses
paralleled crossover LAN side switched ports in lieu of MDI-MDI-X.

Something else, I'm not sure of his DSL modem's settings either. If
he's bridging the thing, the connection to the router may be screwed
up by a conflict between the two acting as a DHCP server. I ran into
this with an older Speedtouch DSL modem when trying to connect a brand
new Cico/Linksys Wireless G router to it. I couldn't find a setting
in the Speedtouch DSL modem's firmware settings to disable its DHCP
server, so I had to flip the Cisco/Linksys into AP mode.
 
D

dilbert firestorm

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

PPP adapter Broadband Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadband Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 209.205.154.233(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.231.96.12
209.16.64.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 06-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-43-D2-53-8E
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 345040570
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-12-63-F3-8D-00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR928X Wireless Network
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{E1A33FE7-EEA0-4450-BDB7-05126037B18E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2C4930A1-D160-46B3-B94C-2D540EAC3730}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C8C07DD7-1008-4B67-BF0F-05C5AB29B0D7}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{ADE1703D-7F16-4F6C-A147-DE384829C237}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter 6TO4 Adapter:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2002:d1cd:9ae9::d1cd:9ae9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.231.96.12
209.16.64.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2DC56702-EBEA-4C22-BB67-A03B2D113B9E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
this is with the VPN modem connection.

I've done 2 more ipconfig runs.
 
D

dilbert firestorm

this one is the modem connection only, no vpn connection.


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 06-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-43-D2-53-8E
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 345040570
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-12-63-F3-8D-00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR928X Wireless Network
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2DC56702-EBEA-4C22-BB67-A03B2D113B9E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C8C07DD7-1008-4B67-BF0F-05C5AB29B0D7}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{ADE1703D-7F16-4F6C-A147-DE384829C237}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{E1A33FE7-EEA0-4450-BDB7-05126037B18E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
 
D

dilbert firestorm

this one is with the router and modem connected


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 06-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-43-D2-53-8E
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 345040570
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-12-63-F3-8D-00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR928X Wireless Network
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{2DC56702-EBEA-4C22-BB67-A03B2D113B9E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C8C07DD7-1008-4B67-BF0F-05C5AB29B0D7}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{ADE1703D-7F16-4F6C-A147-DE384829C237}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{E1A33FE7-EEA0-4450-BDB7-05126037B18E}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
 
C

Char Jackson

this one is the modem connection only, no vpn connection.


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 345040570
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-12-63-F3-8D-00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

This computer is configured to receive its networking configuration
via DHCP, but it wasn't able to get a response from a DHCP server so
it auto-assigned the 169.* address and associated netmask. This
computer is not likely to have Internet access.
 
C

Char Jackson

this one is with the router and modem connected


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bruce-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 90-E6-BA-6C-DD-B3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::f59b:99f9:373d:fbbb%11(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.251.187(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 345040570
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-12-63-F3-8D-00-25-D3-99-B7-90
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Same as before... Computer is configured for DHCP, but no DHCP server
replied so the computer auto-assigned the 169.* address and associated
netmask. (APIPA addressing)
No Internet access from this computer with this configuration.
 
D

dilbert firestorm

Same as before... Computer is configured for DHCP, but no DHCP server
replied so the computer auto-assigned the 169.* address and associated
netmask. (APIPA addressing)
No Internet access from this computer with this configuration.
that much is obvious to both postings. how do I fix it????
 
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Char Jackson

that much is obvious to both postings. how do I fix it????
If the computer is able to automatically pick up a valid IP address
when it's connected directly to the cable/DSL modem, then I expect the
problem is with your router. I'm also assuming that you've cabled
everything correctly and that the cables are all good. Make sure you
haven't plugged a PC into the router's WAN port, for example, as that
should be connected to your modem.

Is the DHCP server enabled in your router? Is any other computer able
to receive DHCP information from your router? Does your router have an
artificially low limit configured for the number of DHCP addresses
allowed? Does your router have anything weird configured in the DHCP
reservation area? Have you done a full factory reset on the router?
 
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dilbert firestorm

If the computer is able to automatically pick up a valid IP address
when it's connected directly to the cable/DSL modem, then I expect the
problem is with your router. I'm also assuming that you've cabled
everything correctly and that the cables are all good. Make sure you
haven't plugged a PC into the router's WAN port, for example, as that
should be connected to your modem.

Is the DHCP server enabled in your router? Is any other computer able
to receive DHCP information from your router? Does your router have an
artificially low limit configured for the number of DHCP addresses
allowed? Does your router have anything weird configured in the DHCP
reservation area? Have you done a full factory reset on the router?
1st paragraph, yes to all that.

no fancy settings on the router, that I'm aware of. it was just basic
dhcp, dyanmic setup.

I don't know about a low limit set for the addresses, I don't think I
did anything with that issue.

btw, as soon I logged off vpn, soon after, the pc was seeing the
wireless part of the router, wasn't able to connect to it tho. I did
reset the router to factory settings (I did that last week)

I've 2 wireless settings, one basic and other advanced authentication,
wpa-wpk or something like that.

my other computer has that same dhcp issue as well
 

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