Jump lists


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Ed Cryer

Until today Firefox had a jump list, pinned to the Start Menu. But I had
an update for Foxit Reader, and it installed Google Chrome while I
blinked. And that pinned itself, and downgraded FF.

How do I get a jumplist back for FF?

Ed
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Ed said:
Until today Firefox had a jump list, pinned to the Start Menu. But I had
an update for Foxit Reader, and it installed Google Chrome while I
blinked. And that pinned itself, and downgraded FF.

How do I get a jumplist back for FF?
Uninstall Google Chrome! <guffaw!>

(then try one of those System Restore thingies?)
 
E

Ed Cryer

Ed said:
Until today Firefox had a jump list, pinned to the Start Menu. But I had
an update for Foxit Reader, and it installed Google Chrome while I
blinked. And that pinned itself, and downgraded FF.

How do I get a jumplist back for FF?

Ed
Hiya Ed.

Here's how to do it.
Put "about:config" in the address bar.
Click on "I'll be careful, I promise".
Ensure that both "browser.taskbar.lists.enabled" and
"browser.taskbar.lists.frequent.enabled" are set to true.

Thank you, and have a nice day tomorrow.

Ed
 
E

Ed Cryer

Ed said:
Hiya Ed.

Here's how to do it.
Put "about:config" in the address bar.
Click on "I'll be careful, I promise".
Ensure that both "browser.taskbar.lists.enabled" and
"browser.taskbar.lists.frequent.enabled" are set to true.

Thank you, and have a nice day tomorrow.

Ed
Thanks for that, Ed. It worked just fine.

There's something in the mould of Alexander the Great about our Google.
On the one hand we bring you all the great benefits of Greek culture;
things such as the world has never seen before, literature, philosophy,
drama, mathematics taken high, architecture with style, statues with
great beauty and grace. But on the other hand we're imposing it with
warfare; and when we've finished in the east we'll turn westward into
the territory of Carthage and Rome.

And then, of course, there's the project of collecting all the books in
the world. Yes, the Macedonians tried that too. The Great Library of
Alexandria, founded by general Ptolemy Soter. They used to impound all
books found on ships putting into the harbour, and take them away for
copying. Ships from Athens were particularly welcome. Many books just
weren't returned.

Yes, Google do look a bit like a Macedonian phalanx, bristling with
sarissas that hold your troops in place while the cavalry chop you down
from the sides.

Ed
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Thanks for that, Ed. It worked just fine.

There's something in the mould of Alexander the Great about our Google.
On the one hand we bring you all the great benefits of Greek culture;
things such as the world has never seen before, literature, philosophy,
drama, mathematics taken high, architecture with style, statues with
great beauty and grace. But on the other hand we're imposing it with
warfare; and when we've finished in the east we'll turn westward into
the territory of Carthage and Rome.

And then, of course, there's the project of collecting all the books in
the world. Yes, the Macedonians tried that too. The Great Library of
Alexandria, founded by general Ptolemy Soter. They used to impound all
books found on ships putting into the harbour, and take them away for
copying. Ships from Athens were particularly welcome. Many books just
weren't returned.

Yes, Google do look a bit like a Macedonian phalanx, bristling with
sarissas that hold your troops in place while the cavalry chop you down
from the sides.

Ed
OT

These days I hear & dance to a lot of Macedonian folk music (all three
Macedonias).

That is much easier to live with than Big Al would be.
 
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Char Jackson

Thanks for that, Ed. It worked just fine.
I'm glad that Ed was able to help you out. Thanks for reporting on your
success. ;-)
 
R

Robert Baer

Ed said:
Until today Firefox had a jump list, pinned to the Start Menu. But I had
an update for Foxit Reader, and it installed Google Chrome while I
blinked. And that pinned itself, and downgraded FF.

How do I get a jumplist back for FF?

Ed
You made a mistrake and blithely ignored the default checkboxes for
installing Chrome.
Yah gotza be in stompin' mode an sey the magic 2-letter word "NO" and
ACTIVELY OPT OUT!
 
E

Ed Cryer

Robert said:
You made a mistrake and blithely ignored the default checkboxes for
installing Chrome.
Yah gotza be in stompin' mode an sey the magic 2-letter word "NO" and
ACTIVELY OPT OUT!
I wish you were right, but you're not.
What happened happened thus.
I was looking at a PDF file with Foxit; up comes a message "update
available - download?"; yes; away it goes and does its stuff; update
installed."
Five minutes later a Chrome icon appears on my desktop.
I have to spend time uninstalling, changing services, riding the fences.

Ed
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

You made a mistrake and blithely ignored the default checkboxes for
installing Chrome.
Yah gotza be in stompin' mode an sey the magic 2-letter word "NO" and
ACTIVELY OPT OUT!
I wish you were right, but you're not.
What happened happened thus.
I was looking at a PDF file with Foxit; up comes a message "update
available - download?"; yes; away it goes and does its stuff; update
installed."
Five minutes later a Chrome icon appears on my desktop.
I have to spend time uninstalling, changing services, riding the fences.

Ed[/QUOTE]


Yup, it is happening to a lot of folks. One person got them to
respond:

"We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Regarding the problem
that Google Chrome was installed without permission. We have removed
this auto update for now. In the future there will be an option which
asks user that want to install Google Chrome or not. "

As for your jump lists in FF, I can't imagine they are related, but
then I couldn't have imagined a reputable software company silently
installing Chrome or other 3rd party software so who knows? In any
case, good luck.

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.
 
E

Ed Cryer

Zaphod said:
I wish you were right, but you're not.
What happened happened thus.
I was looking at a PDF file with Foxit; up comes a message "update
available - download?"; yes; away it goes and does its stuff; update
installed."
Five minutes later a Chrome icon appears on my desktop.
I have to spend time uninstalling, changing services, riding the fences.

Ed

Yup, it is happening to a lot of folks. One person got them to
respond:

"We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Regarding the problem
that Google Chrome was installed without permission. We have removed
this auto update for now. In the future there will be an option which
asks user that want to install Google Chrome or not. "

As for your jump lists in FF, I can't imagine they are related, but
then I couldn't have imagined a reputable software company silently
installing Chrome or other 3rd party software so who knows? In any
case, good luck.
[/QUOTE]

Even if it was simply a minor mistake by some junior programmer it'll
cost them dear. Especially with a Google program involved. Americans
love nothing better than some conspiracy theory to get their teeth into,
and large corporations are often the target.

As regards the jump lists I owe you a full explanation of what happened
here.
Chrome set itself as default browser; and put an entry in the Start
List, those individual icons that come before All Programs. The FF icon
in there was moved down to the bottom, and the jump list pinned items
had gone.

I must admit I had built those pinned items in an unorthodox way.
I don't like having Recent Items, nor the lists that clutter things up;
but I do like having pinned items for both FF and Notepad. So what I did
was allow all recent items and the rest to build, visited the sites and
Notepad files to get them on the list, pinned all the wants I want; and
them unticked recent items and the rest. That leaves just the pinned ones.
I guess that Chrome must have removed the FF entry and then put a new
one in for it.

All of which tells a rather shocking tale, to my way of thinking.
1. Chrome installed.
2. Chrome made default browser.
3. All my pinned items thrown out.

This guy here calls it "evil";
http://tinyurl.com/p3h7ul9

Ed
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Even if it was simply a minor mistake by some junior programmer it'll
cost them dear. Especially with a Google program involved. Americans
love nothing better than some conspiracy theory to get their teeth into,
and large corporations are often the target.

As regards the jump lists I owe you a full explanation of what happened
here.
Chrome set itself as default browser; and put an entry in the Start
List, those individual icons that come before All Programs. The FF icon
in there was moved down to the bottom, and the jump list pinned items
had gone.

I must admit I had built those pinned items in an unorthodox way.
I don't like having Recent Items, nor the lists that clutter things up;
but I do like having pinned items for both FF and Notepad. So what I did
was allow all recent items and the rest to build, visited the sites and
Notepad files to get them on the list, pinned all the wants I want; and
them unticked recent items and the rest. That leaves just the pinned ones.
I guess that Chrome must have removed the FF entry and then put a new
one in for it.

All of which tells a rather shocking tale, to my way of thinking.
1. Chrome installed.
2. Chrome made default browser.
3. All my pinned items thrown out.

This guy here calls it "evil";
http://tinyurl.com/p3h7ul9

Ed
Evil in a way, but really, I tend to agree with those who opined that
it may have been an honest mistake - perhaps they meant to sneak it in
visibly :)

But this adventure makes me glad that I am part of that obscure minority
who never liked FoxIt.
 
E

Ed Cryer

Gene said:
Evil in a way, but really, I tend to agree with those who opined that
it may have been an honest mistake - perhaps they meant to sneak it in
visibly :)

But this adventure makes me glad that I am part of that obscure minority
who never liked FoxIt.
Foxit used to be superbly slimmed-down; a real tennis pro. But it
acquired a big bloated banner to match MS' Office suite; and now they've
obviously fallen foul of Google's dollars.

Even if you give them the BOD (benefit of doubt) then who do we blame
for points 2 and 3 above?
Bl$%dy Google!

Ed
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:49:52 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-
(e-mail address removed)> wrote in article <augi2b8kvu6j
[email protected]>...
Evil in a way, but really, I tend to agree with those who opined that
it may have been an honest mistake - perhaps they meant to sneak it in
visibly :)
Personally, I think they should be required to have the check boxes
unchecked by default when asking to install some 3rd party software not
required for operation of the software or update you are installing.

But this adventure makes me glad that I am part of that obscure minority
who never liked FoxIt.

Don't think for a second it couldn't happen with some other piece of
software - you got lucky and dodged the bullet this time, but maybe not
next time. This sort of thing is happening much more frequently these
days.

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:49:52 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-
(e-mail address removed)> wrote in article <augi2b8kvu6j
[email protected]>...

Personally, I think they should be required to have the check boxes
unchecked by default when asking to install some 3rd party software not
required for operation of the software or update you are installing.
Agreed. And I want them to make it ***EASILY VISIBLE** :)
Don't think for a second it couldn't happen with some other piece of
software - you got lucky and dodged the bullet this time, but maybe not
next time. This sort of thing is happening much more frequently these
days.
Did I say that I thought I had dodged all bullets? I merely said that I
was happy to have dodged that one.

But it's a fair warning...Nay, an *important* warning.

Especially for those of us blessed with only one head.
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:29:27 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-
(e-mail address removed)> wrote in article
Agreed. And I want them to make it ***EASILY VISIBLE** :)
Couldn't agree more!
Did I say that I thought I had dodged all bullets? I merely said that I
was happy to have dodged that one.

But it's a fair warning...Nay, an *important* warning.
Indeed, it was intended more as a warning to our dear readers in
general rather than you specifically.
Especially for those of us blessed with only one head.
Blessed is an interesting word to use in that context...

--
Zaphod

"So [Trillian], two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
- Arthur Dent
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Indeed, it was intended more as a warning to our dear readers in
general rather than you specifically.

Blessed is an interesting word to use in that context...
I had fun writing it and I had even more fun reading your reply :)
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

Gene E. Bloch said:
Agreed. And I want them to make it ***EASILY VISIBLE** :)
[]
Given that we're talking (aren't we?) of free software here, although in
theory that would be nice, I don't think there's any "required"
possible. It would be nice if they made it more obvious, but the default
being on is probably a condition of their payment.
 

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