IE9 Beta and the final version

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Glen Parks

I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?
 
K

Ken Blake

I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?

In my view, you're looking for trouble. The reason it's a beta test
version instead of a released version is that it still has bugs in it,
and Microsoft is looking for beta test users to inform them of other
bugs as they are found.

Unless you have a spare computer to install it on, and enjoy doing
beta testing of software and reporting of bugs to Microsoft, I think
installing such beta software is just looking for trouble.

Yes, you can install the beta version, but for almost everyone I
strongly advise *against* doing that, and waiting for it to be
released.
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Glen Parks said:
I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to
uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?


Along with Ken's sentiments, you will need to uninstall IE9 Bets before
installing the RC version.
 
V

VanguardLH

Ken said:
In my view, you're looking for trouble. The reason it's a beta test
version instead of a released version is that it still has bugs in it,
and Microsoft is looking for beta test users to inform them of other
bugs as they are found.

Unless you have a spare computer to install it on, and enjoy doing
beta testing of software and reporting of bugs to Microsoft, I think
installing such beta software is just looking for trouble.

Yes, you can install the beta version, but for almost everyone I
strongly advise *against* doing that, and waiting for it to be
released.
Alas, the vast majority of users that download beta versions have no
business doing so. They are NOT qualified beta testers. They have no
interest in doing both the testing AND reporting. It is disappointing
when companies release beta versions to the public rather than regulate
the qualified recipients who can actually to the testing and reporting.
It dilutes and corrupts the whole purpose of a *beta* release.

At worst, Microsoft should only allow downloads of their Preview
releases to the boobs who typically have no good reason to obtain the
software other than it is new. Considering the number of downloads, it
is a tiny percentage of users where the beta or preview release will
correct an problems or deficiencies they experience with the prior GA
version. Of course, we've all heard and read about the boobs that flash
their BIOS or update their video drivers for no reason other than there
is a new version.
 
R

relic

Glen Parks said:
I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?
I usually don't fear Beta software, but I would NEVER install any beta
software from Microsoft.
 
K

Ken Blake

Alas, the vast majority of users that download beta versions have no
business doing so. They are NOT qualified beta testers. They have no
interest in doing both the testing AND reporting. It is disappointing
when companies release beta versions to the public rather than regulate
the qualified recipients who can actually to the testing and reporting.
It dilutes and corrupts the whole purpose of a *beta* release.

At worst, Microsoft should only allow downloads of their Preview
releases to the boobs who typically have no good reason to obtain the
software other than it is new. Considering the number of downloads, it
is a tiny percentage of users where the beta or preview release will
correct an problems or deficiencies they experience with the prior GA
version. Of course, we've all heard and read about the boobs that flash
their BIOS or update their video drivers for no reason other than there
is a new version.

I'm with you entirely. I agree with all of the above.
 
P

peter

?So now you know a few opinions on MS Betas.....mines about the same
but I realize some will do it anyways so here is your answer..

I have installed IE9 and after several weeks decided to uninstall it.
The uninstall was easy under Control Panel/Programs and features.
After the uninstall it reverted back to IE8...automatically.
You will need to do the same once the RC version comes out.

I am also running W7 SP1 beta and realize I will need to uninstall it once
the RC version comes out..........and yes I give feedback to MS

peter



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"Glen Parks" wrote in message

I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?
 
K

Kernel79

VanguardLH said:
Alas, the vast majority of users that download beta versions have no
business doing so. They are NOT qualified beta testers. They have no
interest in doing both the testing AND reporting. It is disappointing
when companies release beta versions to the public rather than regulate
the qualified recipients who can actually to the testing and reporting.
It dilutes and corrupts the whole purpose of a *beta* release.

At worst, Microsoft should only allow downloads of their Preview
releases to the boobs who typically have no good reason to obtain the
software other than it is new. Considering the number of downloads, it
is a tiny percentage of users where the beta or preview release will
correct an problems or deficiencies they experience with the prior GA
version. Of course, we've all heard and read about the boobs that flash
their BIOS or update their video drivers for no reason other than there
is a new version.
IMHO the public should have better access to the proposed releases, not
less, as you infer by calling the public "boobs". Boobs are for women,
guys
are dudes. I've seen far too many Microsoft systems, updates, betas, etc.
released with things that should have and could have been caught with a
wider testing audience.
 
K

Ken Blake

I am also running W7 SP1 beta and realize I will need to uninstall it once
the RC version comes out..........and yes I give feedback to MS

The release candidate of Windows 7 SP1 has been out since October 26.
It is now about to be released.
 
C

choro

The release candidate of Windows 7 SP1 has been out since October 26.
It is now about to be released.
And I guess this is where troubles start! ;-)
 
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Glen Parks

In my view, you're looking for trouble. The reason it's a beta test
version instead of a released version is that it still has bugs in it,
and Microsoft is looking for beta test users to inform them of other
bugs as they are found.

Unless you have a spare computer to install it on, and enjoy doing
beta testing of software and reporting of bugs to Microsoft, I think
installing such beta software is just looking for trouble.

Yes, you can install the beta version, but for almost everyone I
strongly advise *against* doing that, and waiting for it to be
released.
I've been following that advice since the beta version came out in September
last year, and I've been growing more and more impatient for the final
release ever since. I was just going to throw caution to the wind and try it
out, but it seems my wait may be over because according to one source I
found this morning it's probably coming out at the end of this month. Today,
even.

<Microsoft is reportedly gearing up to release the Release Candidate of
Internet Explorer 9 by the end of January 2011. The Redmond company has yet
to confirm or deny third-party reports that claim to already have the IE9 RC
availability deadline, or to comment in any way on the matter at hand.
Various sources are indicating that IE9 RC will actually drop on January
28th, 2011 (via LiveSide and sp3ciali5t), but the reports need to be taken
with a grain of salt, until the software giant will offer official
confirmation of the release date. IE9 hit Beta in mid-September 2010, a
launch which Microsoft marked through the Beauty of the Web event in San
Francisco. Following the release of the Beta development milestone, the
company revealed that it wasn’t planning another Beta, but that RC would
follow instead. However, two additional releases of IE9 were offered to
early adopters, taking the number of developer Builds to seven. IE9 Platform
Preview 7 continues to be available for download even at this point in time,
alongside the Beta Build. In fact, testers can swap the core of the IE9 Beta
and replace it with the IE9 PP7 in order to get all of the benefits
associated with the latest preview release. In the three months and a half
since IE9 Beta went live, the Build was downloaded in excess of 20 million
times, a number which is bound to grow consistently, especially considering
that the Release Candidate is close. As it is the case with additional
Microsoft software, the RC signals the fact that IE9 is extremely close to
finalization, a milestone referred to as RTW (release to web), equivalent to
RTM (release to manufacturing). >
http://tinyurl.com/4na69k8

I'm going to continue with your advice and wait.
 
G

Glen Parks

Along with Ken's sentiments, you will need to uninstall IE9 Bets before
installing the RC version.
Right. I think I'll wait, then. The final version is due out any day soon.
Can hardly wait to try it out for myself on my own PC.
 
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Char Jackson

Right. I think I'll wait, then. The final version is due out any day soon.
Can hardly wait to try it out for myself on my own PC.
I'm curious, what does it promise to do that has you so impatient?
 
L

Lewis

In message said:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:45:11 +0000, Glen Parks
I'm curious, what does it promise to do that has you so impatient?
Standards compliance. No really, this time they mean it! Honest.

Well, sorta. Not really. But kinda!

It does have hardware acceleration for graphics handling, which is
probably the biggest thing people are itching for.
 
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Glen Parks

I'm curious, what does it promise to do that has you so impatient?
I've seen for myself how much faster it is, even on inferior machines to
mine, and how much cleaner it is; only one bar along the top that doubles as
an address bar and a search bar, for example. The whole browsing experience
is much better all round because it has a host of improvement over others
around today. A list of them can be found on Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_9
 
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Char Jackson

Standards compliance. No really, this time they mean it! Honest.

Well, sorta. Not really. But kinda!
You almost had me there. :)
It does have hardware acceleration for graphics handling, which is
probably the biggest thing people are itching for.
Thanks, not enough to catch my interest, so I'll stick with Firefox.
 
B

bobster

?"Glen Parks" wrote in message

I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?
================================================================================

I've been using IE9 beta since September and love it. I've had virtually no
trouble. As of today, the Release Candidate (originally scheduled for
today) is now scheduled for Feb 10th.
 
G

Glen Parks

?"Glen Parks" wrote in message

I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?
================================================================================

I've been using IE9 beta since September and love it. I've had virtually no
trouble.
The only issue I've encountered, or rather my friend has encountered, is
online shopping at Tescos. They've been too slow to make their website
compatible with IE9. He gets all his shopping done, goes through the virtual
checkout, but can't book a delivery time because that particular page on the
site is unresponsive. The time slots, or boxes, don't respond when you click
on them. Tesco told him to either revert back to the inferior IE8 or use
another browser. He shops at Sainsburys now.
As of today, the Release Candidate (originally scheduled for
today) is now scheduled for Feb 10th.
That's great news. I can wait till then. No point in installing the beta
yet.
 
J

Joan Archer

?Did he try putting it in Compatibility Mode ? I have no problems with Tesco
online shopping doing that.



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"Glen Parks" wrote in message

?"Glen Parks" wrote in message

I want IE9 and I'm tired of waiting for the RC to arrive, supposedly some
time this month. If I download the beta version will the RC version just
replace the beta version in a Windows update, or will I need to uninstall
the beta version manually and then install the RC version?
================================================================================

I've been using IE9 beta since September and love it. I've had virtually
no
trouble.
The only issue I've encountered, or rather my friend has encountered, is
online shopping at Tescos. They've been too slow to make their website
compatible with IE9. He gets all his shopping done, goes through the virtual
checkout, but can't book a delivery time because that particular page on the
site is unresponsive. The time slots, or boxes, don't respond when you click
on them. Tesco told him to either revert back to the inferior IE8 or use
another browser. He shops at Sainsburys now.
As of today, the Release Candidate (originally scheduled for
today) is now scheduled for Feb 10th.
That's great news. I can wait till then. No point in installing the beta
yet.
 
G

Glen Parks

?Did he try putting it in Compatibility Mode ? I have no problems with Tesco
online shopping doing that.
I don't think so, else he would've persevered with the Tesco site, I reckon.
He's been with them for years and spent thousands with them to date, as was
his complaint to them. I was with him when he complained. I'll go round
there sometime this weekend and see if compatibility mode works for him.
Thanks for the heads up.
 

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