How to uninstall IE10

F

Fokke Nauta

Hi all,

A month or so ago I upgraded IE9 to IE10. It ruined my default browser,
Mozilla FF. All fonts on websites showed since then as Times New Roman.
So I put a system image back and was happy with my FF again.

Now, all of a sudden, M$ stroke and FF is ruined again. And yes, my IE9
has been sneakily updated to IE10 by a Windows update. Ofcourse I can
put a system image back and never apply any updates to my system again
but there must be a better way. How can I uninstall @#$%! IE10 and undo
the damage?

Or, perhaps, how can I make FF to show the real fonts again?

Thanks beforehand,
Fokke
 
J

Johnny

Hi all,

A month or so ago I upgraded IE9 to IE10. It ruined my default browser,
Mozilla FF. All fonts on websites showed since then as Times New Roman.
So I put a system image back and was happy with my FF again.

Now, all of a sudden, M$ stroke and FF is ruined again. And yes, my IE9
has been sneakily updated to IE10 by a Windows update. Ofcourse I can
put a system image back and never apply any updates to my system again
but there must be a better way. How can I uninstall @#$%! IE10 and undo
the damage?

Or, perhaps, how can I make FF to show the real fonts again?

Thanks beforehand,
Fokke
I use Firefox and the default font is Times New Roman, and the font size
is 16.

If you want to change it, go to Tools, Options and then content and
change it there.

I have IE10 also and don't have a problem with Firefox.
 
P

Paul

Fokke said:
Hi all,

A month or so ago I upgraded IE9 to IE10. It ruined my default browser,
Mozilla FF. All fonts on websites showed since then as Times New Roman.
So I put a system image back and was happy with my FF again.

Now, all of a sudden, M$ stroke and FF is ruined again. And yes, my IE9
has been sneakily updated to IE10 by a Windows update. Ofcourse I can
put a system image back and never apply any updates to my system again
but there must be a better way. How can I uninstall @#$%! IE10 and undo
the damage?

Or, perhaps, how can I make FF to show the real fonts again?

Thanks beforehand,
Fokke
You can "hide" updates, so they are not applied. You
would do that to an update, before it is installed.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/24376-windows-update-hide-restore-hidden-updates.html

So one procedure would be something like:

1) Put system image back.
2) Go to Windows Update, hide the IE10 update.
3) Enjoy life with IE9.

I suppose it also depends on how the update is being done.
Microsoft can be sneaky, when they want to be.

I leave my updates on "Manual", so I get to examine the
list of updates first. That means me initiating Windows Update,
rather than Windows Update being set to Automatic. I am undoubtedly
less secure that way, but at least I won't be getting any
IE10 surprises that way. I tend to not accept newer versions
of IE (because I don't use them). I currently have three other
browsers loaded for web surfing.

*******

I certain number of settings in Firefox, are actually inherited
from Internet Explorer (that's a design decision by the Firefox team).
The security levels that IE uses, are also used by Firefox. I don't
know how a font could possibly be involved - my point in mentioning
that, is so you'll be aware there is a potential interaction by design.

I consider the whole registry scheme for IE to be a mess, so good luck
making sense of it. Someone once computed, that there were 2000 registry
entries for IE security, caused by the number of permutations and combinations
of stuff.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/07/firefox_3_follows_ie7s_securit_1.html

"unlike previous versions of Firefox, the latest version now honors
your Windows security settings for downloading applications,
settings that are configured through IE."

You may need to find additional, more modern articles like that one, to see
to what extent that model is being followed now.

HTH,
Paul
 
N

Nil

I suppose it also depends on how the update is being done.
Microsoft can be sneaky, when they want to be.

I leave my updates on "Manual", so I get to examine the
list of updates first. That means me initiating Windows Update,
rather than Windows Update being set to Automatic. I am
undoubtedly less secure that way, but at least I won't be getting
any IE10 surprises that way.
On the two Windows 7 computers that I've been watching, IE10 was
offered in Windows Update, but was NOT selected by default. It appears
to me that you have to manually choose to install it and that it's not
going to "sneakily update" on its own.
 
N

Nil

Now, all of a sudden, M$ stroke and FF is ruined again. And yes,
my IE9 has been sneakily updated to IE10 by a Windows update.
Ofcourse I can put a system image back and never apply any updates
to my system again but there must be a better way. How can I
uninstall @#$%! IE10 and undo the damage?
IE 10 can be uninstalled from Control Panel | Programs and Features,
just like you would uninstall anything else. Did you even look there?
Or, perhaps, how can I make FF to show the real fonts again?
You can select fonts in Firefox from Options | Content | Fonts and
Colors. Did you even look for it?
 
F

Fokke Nauta

You allowed it to install either by stupidly configuring Windows to
update automatically or by allowing it manually.
No, Windows isn't allowed here to update automatically.
But today I allowed two updates. It didn't say it was IE10.
Ofcourse I can

I have both IE10 and FF and no problems with fonts in FF. I suspect your
problem has nothing to do with updates or IE10.
OK, that's good news. I'll have to look further.

Fokke
 
F

Fokke Nauta

I use Firefox and the default font is Times New Roman, and the font size
is 16.

If you want to change it, go to Tools, Options and then content and
change it there.
Yes, I know and I've been there, but I don't want to see the default
font but the font of the site.
I have IE10 also and don't have a problem with Firefox.
OK, that's better news. Perhaps I should look further.

Fokke
 
F

Fokke Nauta

On the two Windows 7 computers that I've been watching, IE10 was
offered in Windows Update, but was NOT selected by default. It appears
to me that you have to manually choose to install it and that it's not
going to "sneakily update" on its own.
Indeed, I must admit I today allowed two updates manually, but I haven't
read anything about an IE10 upgrade.
I have been a bit stupid about trusting MS.

Fokke
 
J

Johnny

Yes, I know and I've been there, but I don't want to see the default
font but the font of the site.


OK, that's better news. Perhaps I should look further.

Fokke
Next to the font size there is an advanced button. Click on this and
you can check the box that says let websites use their own fonts.
 
N

Nil

Yes, I know and I've been there, but I don't want to see the
default font but the font of the site.
You're laboring under a misconception. Web sites don't usually have
"default" fonts. If a particular font is indicated by a site, it will
ask your browser to use it. The browser's default font is used when the
site has no preference. You can change Firefox's default font at will.
 
F

Fokke Nauta

You can "hide" updates, so they are not applied. You
would do that to an update, before it is installed.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/24376-windows-update-hide-restore-hidden-updates.html


So one procedure would be something like:

1) Put system image back.
2) Go to Windows Update, hide the IE10 update.
3) Enjoy life with IE9.

I suppose it also depends on how the update is being done.
Microsoft can be sneaky, when they want to be.

I leave my updates on "Manual", so I get to examine the
list of updates first.
So am I.
That means me initiating Windows Update,
rather than Windows Update being set to Automatic. I am undoubtedly
less secure that way, but at least I won't be getting any
IE10 surprises that way. I tend to not accept newer versions
of IE (because I don't use them). I currently have three other
browsers loaded for web surfing.
I have quite a lot browsers for web testing, as IE (was 9), Maxton, FF,
Opera, Chrome and Safari.
But my default browser is FF.
*******

I certain number of settings in Firefox, are actually inherited
from Internet Explorer (that's a design decision by the Firefox team).
The security levels that IE uses, are also used by Firefox. I don't
know how a font could possibly be involved - my point in mentioning
that, is so you'll be aware there is a potential interaction by design.
OK, this makes sense. Now I understand.
I consider the whole registry scheme for IE to be a mess, so good luck
making sense of it. Someone once computed, that there were 2000 registry
entries for IE security, caused by the number of permutations and
combinations
of stuff.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/07/firefox_3_follows_ie7s_securit_1.html


"unlike previous versions of Firefox, the latest version now honors
your Windows security settings for downloading applications,
settings that are configured through IE."

You may need to find additional, more modern articles like that one, to see
to what extent that model is being followed now.

HTH,
Paul
Thanks Paul. As I feel I need to be up-to-date with the most common
browers and the new browsers as well, I'll need to keep IE10. As others
replied that they did not encounter any problems with IE10 and FF, I
feel that I'll have to search through the FF settings. Although IE
browsers remain a pain in the ass.

Fokke
 
F

Fokke Nauta

IE 10 can be uninstalled from Control Panel | Programs and Features,
just like you would uninstall anything else. Did you even look there?
Yes. But I did not see IE10 there. Did you?
You can select fonts in Firefox from Options | Content | Fonts and
Colors. Did you even look for it?
Yes, I did. I've been there.
But I don't want to see the default font, I want to see the font of the
website I look to.

Fokke
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Next to the font size there is an advanced button. Click on this and
you can check the box that says let websites use their own fonts.
Yes, it's ticked, but it doesn't make any difference.
 
F

Fokke Nauta

You're laboring under a misconception. Web sites don't usually have
"default" fonts. If a particular font is indicated by a site, it will
ask your browser to use it. The browser's default font is used when the
site has no preference. You can change Firefox's default font at will.
Disagree.
If a font is used that I don't have, I'll see the default font. Most
sites use a font that's on my PC or a web font. On most sites I see the
fonts that they specify.
But now I only see Times New Roman. Ofcourse I can change that default
font, I've been there, but that's not the issue. I want to see the font
that's on the site.

Fokke
 
B

Bob Henson

Yes. But I did not see IE10 there. Did you?


Yes, I did. I've been there.
But I don't want to see the default font, I want to see the font of the
website I look to.

Under "advanced" - tick the box that says "allow pages to use their own
fonts". You may have to do it for more than one character set from the
dropdown menu - Western Iso, UTF-8 etc.
 
N

Nil

Yes. But I did not see IE10 there. Did you?
Yes, I did. Click the "View Installed Updates" link.
Yes, I did. I've been there.
But I don't want to see the default font, I want to see the font
of the website I look to.
Choose the option "Advanced | Allow pages to choose their own fonts
instead of my selections above". The option is selected by default.
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Yes, I did. Click the "View Installed Updates" link.


Choose the option "Advanced | Allow pages to choose their own fonts
instead of my selections above". The option is selected by default.
I know. It's been ticked anyway.
Doesn't make a difference.

Fokke
 
F

Fokke Nauta

Under "advanced" - tick the box that says "allow pages to use their own
fonts".
It's ticked anyway. Doesn't make a difference.

You may have to do it for more than one character set from the
dropdown menu - Western Iso, UTF-8 etc.
Tried. Makes no sence.

Fokke
 
E

Ed Cryer

Fokke said:
Disagree.
If a font is used that I don't have, I'll see the default font. Most
sites use a font that's on my PC or a web font. On most sites I see the
fonts that they specify.
But now I only see Times New Roman. Ofcourse I can change that default
font, I've been there, but that's not the issue. I want to see the font
that's on the site.

Fokke
Do you have any other fonts in the font folder?
Call that "lateral thinking".
It could be.

Ed
 
R

Robin Bignall

Yes. But I did not see IE10 there. Did you?
Yes, it's there. Look at "Installed Windows Updates" and uninstall it
like any other program.
 

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