How long will Win7 be offered for sale?

[...winston]

"Wolf K" wrote in message Sure, but that's mot what I was referring to. I may have
over-interpreted, but I tho't someone here claimed you couldn't have
more than one OS per device. That's nonsense. It's your hardware, not
theirs. It's your choice on which device to install the OS, not theirs.
It is your hardware, but for Windows...not your software. You have a license to use the software but not own it.
- One license per pc for Upgrade and OEM pre-installed versions of Windows 8 or one license (per pc or partition or virtual
machine) for the full version Personal Use System Builder Win 8 version.

As noted previously what one can accomplish or what is feasible with any version does not negate the license for what you don't own
(the software).

 

[Char Jackson]

The problem that we are talking about is that Microsoft had used a
system which we all learned many years ago. That was before you could
upgrade, you had to have either the qualifying OS already installed, or
the install disc handy when it ask you for it. This was true from
Windows 95 to XP (I have no idea what Vista wanted, as I skipped that one).

Although when Windows 7 came out. Having the install disc for a
qualifying upgrade was no longer useable. Meaning that you also could
likely want to upgrade your drive when you upgrade to Windows 7. But you
can't upgrade to Windows 7 if there isn't a qualifying OS already on the
new drive. Pain in the rear just to install the qualifying Windows only
to wipe it out again.

Not true. Win 7 allows you to install to a completely bare drive
without requiring that you provide any form of 'valid previous OS'.
The Win 7 installation becomes its own 'valid previous OS'.

Now Paul and myself have found out that Windows 8 install doesn't care
if it is a brand new drive or not. As it will go ahead and install
anyway. Which is a lot less of a hassle for legal users compared to the
Windows 7 upgrade. And I am sure Microsoft had taken a lot of heat for that.

Win 8 and Win 7 sound exactly the same, in that regard.

 

[BillW50]

In Char Jackson typed:

Not true. Win 7 allows you to install to a completely bare drive
without requiring that you provide any form of 'valid previous OS'.
The Win 7 installation becomes its own 'valid previous OS'.


Win 8 and Win 7 sound exactly the same, in that regard.

 

[BillW50]

In BillW50 typed:

In Char Jackson typed:

Crap, it I meant to save it to drafts, not sent it.

Anyway Char... I am so surprised at both you and Winston. As there where
huge amount of write ups about this problem. The trick was which
Microsoft approved of was installing Windows 7 and at some point reboot
and reinstall Windows 7 once again and it accepted the previous partial
Windows 7 as an upgrade.

 

[Char Jackson]

In BillW50 typed:

Crap, it I meant to save it to drafts, not sent it.

Anyway Char... I am so surprised at both you and Winston. As there where
huge amount of write ups about this problem. The trick was which
Microsoft approved of was installing Windows 7 and at some point reboot
and reinstall Windows 7 once again and it accepted the previous partial
Windows 7 as an upgrade.

If I understand you correctly, what you suggest is exactly what I
wrote above.

 

[BillW50]

In Char Jackson typed:

If I understand you correctly, what you suggest is exactly what I
wrote above.

Accept that Windows 8 doesn't require it's own validation. It just
doesn't care. Which is very nice for legal users. ;-)

P.S. I have a weird feeling that Microsoft wants everybody to install
Windows 8 and get you hooked and then kick out Windows Blue. Which means
all Windows 8 users are locked into a subscription fee if they want to
keep getting security updates. :-(

 

[...winston]

I've only stated the terms of the licensing for each version available (Retail Upgrade, OEM pre-installed on pc, Personal Use for
System Builders, and the product key/version change for W8 Pro users(any of the above versions) if they install Media Center.

Additionally, what in MSFT terms, is there position on the prior 'never owned' license when using an upgrade license to upgrade
that prior 'never owned' license.

How one arrives to a Win8 'Activated' environment is a technical method and doesn't change MSFT's position on their license.

One either understands the licensing (it's really simple) or doesn't want to understand it or abides by it, or ignores it...no
matter which position one holds, nothing changes MSFT's position.

As noted previously, what is technically feasible is not and does not change licensing.


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....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

"BillW50" wrote in message
In Char Jackson typed:

 

[Paul]

In Char Jackson typed:

Accept that Windows 8 doesn't require it's own validation. It just
doesn't care. Which is very nice for legal users. ;-)

P.S. I have a weird feeling that Microsoft wants everybody to install
Windows 8 and get you hooked and then kick out Windows Blue. Which means
all Windows 8 users are locked into a subscription fee if they want to
keep getting security updates. :-(

For the next OS to sell, it has to have features. What's left ?

Paul