Classic Shell

[Stan Brown]

By the way, changing "a few words in one of the posts so that the
message were not identical" is still multi-posting.

+1

 

[Stan Brown]

You could argue that it belongs here more than there because the program
is more likely to be used by Windows 7 users who, like me, cannot abide
Windows 8.

You could argue that, but you'd catch yourself up in a logical
contradiction. Your argument for not getting the newer version of
the program was that it had bad effects in Windows 8. Those effects
don't exist in Windows 7,

 

[Ken Blake]

I'm not so sure. But I guess that most of "us here" have never posted
anything, so it's impossible to know their nationality.

True. I'm only going by those who post.

Expecting all posters to know what English words Americans don't
understand, and to avoid using them, is asking a bit much I'd say.

Expecting? No. All I asked for was trying. I try to avoid most
American slang for the same reason.

 

[Bob Henson]

No, it's what you get for being knowingly inconsiderate. I'm with
Zaphod on this one.

By your own admission, you knew multiposting was wrong, but you chose
to do it anyway.

But wait, there's more.

The article was about Windows 8 and irrelevant to Windows 7. You
posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8, so there was no need to post your
article to a Windows 7 newsgroup by any method.

You're having a bad day, Stan. Your logic seems to have flown out of the
window. What I had hoped was helpful information was more for users of
Windows 7 forced to use Windows 8 (and therefore Classic Shell users)
than Windows 8 users, if anything.

However, logic is not what it is really about is it? You and a couple
of others just decided it was a good day to pick on someone, and I was
handy. I have said that it was obviously a bad idea to multi-post
several times today - albeit I had a good reason for doing it, which I
explained - and despite the fact I was just trying to be helpful.

To the few people that appreciated my attempt to help and said so -
you're very welcome. To the rest you involved can all take your
collective bad temper and childish belligerence and stick it where the
sun doesn't shine!

P.S. Should "belligerence" or any other polysyllabic words not be in
your subset of my language, try the OED instead of Webster.

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Nil:

I just downloaded 3.6.7 from there. The link was accurate.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/files/?source=navbar

That's the link I downloaded from - but I did not read the page
thoroughly enough.

Now I've gone back and done it right....

Thanks!!

 

[mechanic]

It didn't have bad effects - it was missing one of the most
important good effects (from the Windows 7 user point of view).
There is no contradiction though - many Windows 7 users are
forced to use Windows 8 and dislike it, whereas a few Windows 8
users might like Windows 8 (shudder) as it is and without
ClassicShell. The program is therefore more likely to be of use
to a regular Windows 7 user than a regular Windows 8 user.

"When in a hole, stop digging!"

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I was just trying to be helpful - which, as I have said elsewhere, I
will not do again.

Paradox alert!

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Expecting all posters to know what English words Americans don't
understand, and to avoid using them, is asking a bit much I'd say. Apart
from anything else, it's boring. Deffo.

+1

And in the reverse direction too, of course.

 

[Dave]

Of course it does. I'm sure that anyone running Windows 7 is interested
in what is happening with Windows 8.

There's no law against perusing a group even if you don't run the hardware/
software associated with that group and it bothers nobody. OTOH, having a
ng cluttered up with non-relevant posts might bother some.

 

[Char Jackson]

The only sensible way?

I strongly disagree. Classic Shell is a good choice; I also like it.
But Start8 (at the very low price of $4.99 US) is even better.

Since you strongly disagree, you surely must have one or more substantial
reasons. Have you shared them with the group? I've seen your claim that
Start8 is better at least a dozen times in the past few months, but I don't
remember seeing the reason(s) why you feel that way. Perhaps it's only
better for you?

 

[Ken Blake]

Since you strongly disagree, you surely must have one or more substantial
reasons. Have you shared them with the group? I've seen your claim that
Start8 is better at least a dozen times in the past few months, but I don't
remember seeing the reason(s) why you feel that way. Perhaps it's only
better for you?

Try it and see for yourself. It has a free trial period.

 

[Char Jackson]

+1

And in the reverse direction too, of course.

I had to look up 'deffo'. That's how out of touch I am.

 

[Ken Springer]

Try it and see for yourself. It has a free trial period.

Ken, Char asked why *you* think it's better. Using it for the trial
period can't answer that question.


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Ken

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[Char Jackson]

Sure, it's OT, but your explanation is exactly how I understand the
word. So, correctly used about Classic Shell.

I don't think anyone has provided any evidence of pressure from MS or
elsewhere, so it might be premature to say "correctly used".

 

[DanS]

I don't think anyone has provided any evidence of pressure from MS or
elsewhere, so it might be premature to say "correctly used".

Well, the release notes for 3.6.8 say...

-Modified the Classic Shell logo and removed the Metro button by request
from Microsoft


What the "Metro Button" is, er, was, I don't know. I don't have Win8.

 

[DanS]

Those of you using Classic Shell as the only sensible way to use Windows
8 on a desktop will be sad to know that it has been nobbled. The latest
version (3.6.8) has no facility for bypassing Metro - which was one of
the main reasons for using it. It would appear the author has been
nobbled, one way or another, by Microsoft.

So, don't update, and hang onto your versions 3.6.7 - it still runs on
8.1 so all is well.

Which means you are running 8.1 preview?

From the classicshell forums....

"The option is unavailable for Windows 8.1, because there is one built-in
already." by "Site Admin", Posted Wed. Jul 03.

How to do it in Win8.1...

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/hands-windows-81-boot-desktop

 

[Char Jackson]

Well, the release notes for 3.6.8 say...

-Modified the Classic Shell logo and removed the Metro button by request
from Microsoft

Cool, thanks, Dan. I can see how some would interpret that as 'pressure'.

What the "Metro Button" is, er, was, I don't know. I don't have Win8.

I still have Win8, (haven't had time to go back to 7 yet), but I'm also not
sure what that is. Probably the Start button.

 

[Char Jackson]

Ken, Char asked why *you* think it's better. Using it for the trial
period can't answer that question.

Thanks.

 

[Mike Barnes]

I had to look up 'deffo'. That's how out of touch I am.

"Deffo" is not part of my active vocabulary but I felt obliged to inject
some international slang there. I'm using "international" in its
American sense to mean "foreign".

 

[DanS]

Cool, thanks, Dan. I can see how some would interpret that as
'pressure'.

Maybe, but in this particular case, I don't think this is related to not
booting "to the desktop". Sounds like something to get TO Metro, not the
desktop.

I don't know about complete removal of the 'Metro' button, but I'm sure
that any "pressure" was more about it being called the 'Metro' button,
than removing it altogether. MS doesn't want to use the term 'Metro',
right?