Buying Windows 7 online

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Ken Springer

Having been burned buying software online before... :-(

I want to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, full retail, 64 bit,
for only one computer. I.E., I don't need a family pack. :)

Unless the family pack can be found cheaper somewhere. LOL

I do not mind purchasing from a vendor that simply provides a downloaded
..ISO file and I have to burn the file to DVD.

What I do mind, is ending up with questionable legality and other
limited editions. Not particularly fond of buy OEM disks either. Did
that one time, based on the ad that it could be used to install the OS
on any computer. It turned out, the disk was defective.

Usually, I'll use this DVD (as well as others) to reinstall the OS for a
computer owner that had the Product ID/COA sticker, but for whatever
reason, does not have any recovery disks or means of creating one. So,
it would have to work with any and all ID's out there.

No sticker, no install, no repair by me. :)

Does anyone have any recommendations for a vendor? One they know of
that can be trusted?

Thanks.


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Paul

Ken said:
Having been burned buying software online before... :-(

I want to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, full retail, 64 bit,
for only one computer. I.E., I don't need a family pack. :)

Unless the family pack can be found cheaper somewhere. LOL

I do not mind purchasing from a vendor that simply provides a downloaded
.ISO file and I have to burn the file to DVD.

What I do mind, is ending up with questionable legality and other
limited editions. Not particularly fond of buy OEM disks either. Did
that one time, based on the ad that it could be used to install the OS
on any computer. It turned out, the disk was defective.

Usually, I'll use this DVD (as well as others) to reinstall the OS for a
computer owner that had the Product ID/COA sticker, but for whatever
reason, does not have any recovery disks or means of creating one. So,
it would have to work with any and all ID's out there.

No sticker, no install, no repair by me. :)

Does anyone have any recommendations for a vendor? One they know of
that can be trusted?

Thanks.
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This is who I'd use in Canada. They have US pricing information,
but I expect the ship point is still from Canada. Be careful to
check the SKU, and make sure it's appropriate for where you are,
because the SKU is likely different between Canada and US. My
WinXP Pro CD was like that (different SKU).

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45357&vpn=GLC-00181&manufacture=Microsoft

Now, one thing I see wrong with that, is the word "SP1" is missing.
Nothing that a separate DVD holding the standalone SP1 files
(900MB, 500MB) won't fix.

I see a SKU on Newegg. Had to find it by using an external
search engine. Doesn't appear to be SP1 either. SKU is GLC-00182,
so one higher than the NCIX one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116718

Couldn't get a match on Amazon, and even if there was one,
my trust level wouldn't be all that high.

You can do further searches with GLC-00182, assuming it's the right
SKU. If you know the SKU, you might find more sources.

Paul
 
C

Char Jackson

Having been burned buying software online before... :-(

I want to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, full retail, 64 bit,
for only one computer. I.E., I don't need a family pack. :)

Unless the family pack can be found cheaper somewhere. LOL

I do not mind purchasing from a vendor that simply provides a downloaded
.ISO file and I have to burn the file to DVD.

What I do mind, is ending up with questionable legality and other
limited editions. Not particularly fond of buy OEM disks either. Did
that one time, based on the ad that it could be used to install the OS
on any computer. It turned out, the disk was defective.

Usually, I'll use this DVD (as well as others) to reinstall the OS for a
computer owner that had the Product ID/COA sticker, but for whatever
reason, does not have any recovery disks or means of creating one. So,
it would have to work with any and all ID's out there.

No sticker, no install, no repair by me. :)
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Why buy at all, then? It sounds like you only need the media, so
download and burn one or more of the official Microsoft ISO images.
The links have been posted in this group several times in recent
months.
Does anyone have any recommendations for a vendor? One they know of
that can be trusted?
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Digital River. Good enough for Microsoft, good enough for you. No need
to purchase anything.
 
K

Ken Springer

Why buy at all, then? It sounds like you only need the media, so
download and burn one or more of the official Microsoft ISO images.
The links have been posted in this group several times in recent
months.


Digital River. Good enough for Microsoft, good enough for you. No need
to purchase anything.
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I have those ISO images, as well as the Vista ones. But, for me to
learn more about Win 7, I need a key for my own use, and will use that
key to install in VM software.


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..winston

Others have provided suggestion on where to obtain Win7 Ult. 64 bit.

Note:
OEM versions come in only one flavor - 32 or 64 bit but not both.
Retail versions (non OEM) come with both flavors - 32 and 64 bit.

The price for the latter will be higher.

The price for Win7 Ultimate (non upgrade) version from the MSFT Store is ~$320 U.S.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...509700/Windows-7-Ultimate/productID.216647200

NewEgg.com is selling it for ~$290 U.S.


For use solely as a means to install Windows (as another poster noted) Digital River iso downloads (MSFT official distributor) in
most cases should work (choose the correct one)

If the machine being 'repaired' is a Dell, Dell provides links to Digital River downloads for a variety of Win7 versions (bit and
language)
http://en.community.dell.com/suppor...fficial-iso-download-links-digital-river.aspx

IIRC, Win7 was the first version where the product key determined the version (Home, Pro, Ultimate) being installed since the
retail (not OEM) DVD included all builds. For retail, the boxed version included separate DVD's (i.e. the correct DVD needed to be
used)

Good luck.

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msft mvp


"Ken Springer" wrote in message
Having been burned buying software online before... :-(

I want to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, full retail, 64 bit,
for only one computer. I.E., I don't need a family pack. :)

Unless the family pack can be found cheaper somewhere. LOL

I do not mind purchasing from a vendor that simply provides a downloaded
..ISO file and I have to burn the file to DVD.

What I do mind, is ending up with questionable legality and other
limited editions. Not particularly fond of buy OEM disks either. Did
that one time, based on the ad that it could be used to install the OS
on any computer. It turned out, the disk was defective.

Usually, I'll use this DVD (as well as others) to reinstall the OS for a
computer owner that had the Product ID/COA sticker, but for whatever
reason, does not have any recovery disks or means of creating one. So,
it would have to work with any and all ID's out there.

No sticker, no install, no repair by me. :)

Does anyone have any recommendations for a vendor? One they know of
that can be trusted?

Thanks.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 16.0.1
Thunderbird 16.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2
 
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Lieutenant Scott

Having been burned buying software online before... :-(

I want to purchase a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, full retail, 64 bit,
for only one computer. I.E., I don't need a family pack. :)

Unless the family pack can be found cheaper somewhere. LOL

I do not mind purchasing from a vendor that simply provides a downloaded
.ISO file and I have to burn the file to DVD.

What I do mind, is ending up with questionable legality and other
limited editions. Not particularly fond of buy OEM disks either. Did
that one time, based on the ad that it could be used to install the OS
on any computer. It turned out, the disk was defective.

Usually, I'll use this DVD (as well as others) to reinstall the OS for a
computer owner that had the Product ID/COA sticker, but for whatever
reason, does not have any recovery disks or means of creating one. So,
it would have to work with any and all ID's out there.

No sticker, no install, no repair by me. :)

Does anyone have any recommendations for a vendor? One they know of
that can be trusted?

Thanks.
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Find a company that sells unwanted licenses from computers that were sold with Unix on them.

I won't tell you where I got mine, because:

a) It's in the UK.
b) There will be some twit on here who will report them for questionable reselling (although I can't see why it would be illegal).

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Ken Springer

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Char Jackson

Ken Springer wrote: [...]
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/216022/Microsoft-Windows-7-Ultimate-With-Service/


I see the word "OEM" in the details section.

Paul
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No problem, that's what I bought. It will have a key on a self-stick
label included.
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Have you tried using the DVD to fix someone else's computer, using the
key for the other computer?
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Why do you insist on buying something when you don't need to? Is this
a tax scheme or something?

To clarify: Do you need a license or just media? Your first post made
it sound like you wanted media, (with the 'customer' providing the
license). If so, you don't need to spend any money. Just download and
burn what you need.
 
K

Ken Springer

On 12/11/2012 12:59 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
[...]
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/216022/Microsoft-Windows-7-Ultimate-With-Service/


I see the word "OEM" in the details section.

Paul


No problem, that's what I bought. It will have a key on a self-stick
label included.
Click to expand...
Have you tried using the DVD to fix someone else's computer, using the
key for the other computer?
Click to expand...
Why do you insist on buying something when you don't need to? Is this
a tax scheme or something?

To clarify: Do you need a license or just media? Your first post made
it sound like you wanted media, (with the 'customer' providing the
license). If so, you don't need to spend any money. Just download and
burn what you need.
Click to expand...
Sorry for the confusion, Char. Guess the answer is a bit of both. I
need the license for me, and know of no other way to get that except to
buy the media. Use the media to install Win7 in a VM for now. Then I'd
also use the media or one of the downloaded ISO with a different ID,
provided by the "customer", brother-in-law, etc. if I end up fixing
their machine.(s)

If there's a cheaper way, 100% legal, I'm all for that! LOL And
basically why I asked.


--
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Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 16.0.1
Thunderbird 16.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2
 
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Char Jackson

On 11/12/12 2:16 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 12/11/2012 12:59 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
[...]
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/216022/Microsoft-Windows-7-Ultimate-With-Service/


I see the word "OEM" in the details section.

Paul


No problem, that's what I bought. It will have a key on a self-stick
label included.

Have you tried using the DVD to fix someone else's computer, using the
key for the other computer?
Click to expand...
Why do you insist on buying something when you don't need to? Is this
a tax scheme or something?

To clarify: Do you need a license or just media? Your first post made
it sound like you wanted media, (with the 'customer' providing the
license). If so, you don't need to spend any money. Just download and
burn what you need.
Click to expand...
Sorry for the confusion, Char. Guess the answer is a bit of both. I
need the license for me, and know of no other way to get that except to
buy the media. Use the media to install Win7 in a VM for now. Then I'd
also use the media or one of the downloaded ISO with a different ID,
provided by the "customer", brother-in-law, etc. if I end up fixing
their machine.(s)

If there's a cheaper way, 100% legal, I'm all for that! LOL And
basically why I asked.
Click to expand...
Fair enough, thanks. If you need a license, the legit way to get it is
to buy it, of course. I guess I misread the original post.
 
K

Ken Springer

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:46:38 -0700, Ken Springer

On 11/12/12 2:16 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 12/11/2012 12:59 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
[...]
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/216022/Microsoft-Windows-7-Ultimate-With-Service/


I see the word "OEM" in the details section.

Paul


No problem, that's what I bought. It will have a key on a self-stick
label included.

Have you tried using the DVD to fix someone else's computer, using the
key for the other computer?

Why do you insist on buying something when you don't need to? Is this
a tax scheme or something?

To clarify: Do you need a license or just media? Your first post made
it sound like you wanted media, (with the 'customer' providing the
license). If so, you don't need to spend any money. Just download and
burn what you need.
Click to expand...
Sorry for the confusion, Char. Guess the answer is a bit of both. I
need the license for me, and know of no other way to get that except to
buy the media. Use the media to install Win7 in a VM for now. Then I'd
also use the media or one of the downloaded ISO with a different ID,
provided by the "customer", brother-in-law, etc. if I end up fixing
their machine.(s)

If there's a cheaper way, 100% legal, I'm all for that! LOL And
basically why I asked.
Click to expand...
Fair enough, thanks. If you need a license, the legit way to get it is
to buy it, of course. I guess I misread the original post.
Click to expand...
And, maybe you didn't. <grin> I learned a long time ago, when dealing
only with text, what person is trying to say when writing is not always
interpreted in the same way by the reader. These days, if I'm not sure
I'm interpreting things correctly, I ask, just as you did.


--
Ken

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Firefox 16.0.1
Thunderbird 16.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.6.2
 
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Rodney Pont

Sorry for the confusion, Char. Guess the answer is a bit of both. I
need the license for me, and know of no other way to get that except to
buy the media. Use the media to install Win7 in a VM for now. Then I'd
also use the media or one of the downloaded ISO with a different ID,
provided by the "customer", brother-in-law, etc. if I end up fixing
their machine.(s)
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I noticed you said 'in a VM for now' and OEM was mentioned up thread (I
think). With OEM you are only allowed to install it on one machine
ever! The VM would count as that machine so you can't install it on
another when you want to use it on it's own. You need the retail
version for this (I think I'm correct).
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, ..winston
IIRC, Win7 was the first version where the product key determined the
version (Home, Pro, Ultimate) being installed since the retail (not
OEM) DVD included all builds. For retail, the boxed version included
separate DVD's (i.e. the correct DVD needed to be used)
Click to expand...
[]
But will the same DVD (that covers Home, Pro, Ultimate) also cover both
retail and OEM, the difference purely being in the key, or are those
fundamentally different - as Rodney Pond says OEM: one install ever
(including on a VM)?

The fact that some varieties come with two DVDs (for 32 and 64 bit) and
some one (or one DVD image) suggests there _is_ a difference there.

What the OP wanted is something that can repair _any_ system (Home, Pro,
Ult; retail or OEM), provided the user has a valid key. I'm wondering if
such a thing exists. (In later posts he also clarified that he wanted to
buy a licence for his own use, too.)
 
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Paul

J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>, ..winston
IIRC, Win7 was the first version where the product key determined the
version (Home, Pro, Ultimate) being installed since the retail (not
OEM) DVD included all builds. For retail, the boxed version included
separate DVD's (i.e. the correct DVD needed to be used)
Click to expand...
[]
But will the same DVD (that covers Home, Pro, Ultimate) also cover both
retail and OEM, the difference purely being in the key, or are those
fundamentally different - as Rodney Pond says OEM: one install ever
(including on a VM)?

The fact that some varieties come with two DVDs (for 32 and 64 bit) and
some one (or one DVD image) suggests there _is_ a difference there.

What the OP wanted is something that can repair _any_ system (Home, Pro,
Ult; retail or OEM), provided the user has a valid key. I'm wondering if
such a thing exists. (In later posts he also clarified that he wanted to
buy a licence for his own use, too.)
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See ei.cfg

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-t...ll-from-single-edition-dvd-disc-media-or-iso/

Paul
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <op.wnojkkgsytk5n5@i7-940>, Lieutenant Scott <[email protected]>
writes:
[]
Find a company that sells unwanted licenses from computers that were
sold with Unix on them.

I won't tell you where I got mine, because:

a) It's in the UK.
b) There will be some twit on here who will report them for
questionable reselling (although I can't see why it would be illegal).
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If the machines were bought as Windows and had it scrubbed to put Unix
on (which given the crazy pricing may well have been the case), the
Windows is very likely to have been of the OEM type, which is locked to
the machine it was installed on. There was a ruling quite a few years
ago that people who didn't want Windows could demand a refund (not sure
whether from Microsoft or from the vendor) of the proportion of the sale
price that was the Windows, if they deleted it completely, but even if
that's still in force (which I doubt very much), I very much doubt any
right in such a case extends beyond the original purchaser's refund,
certainly not to the licence being transferable.
 
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