AVG users BEWARE

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JKConey

I manage 25 workstations at a private grade school. 3 years with AVG
has protected us from all but a couple of malware, and these kids are all
over the place clicking without reading. That said I am tired of the
constant adverts to upgrade and reboot. Looking for a free, small footprint,
no nag screen alternative.
 
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Charles Tomaras

Nil said:
It's not Microsoft, for one.
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Well if that's the primary reason why aren't you just using Linux or Mac OS
and sparing us your negative xx-ed up attitude? Must just steam you to see
Microsoft release a solid, streamlined AV product for Windows as evidenced
by countless positive reviews. It just works!
 
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Nil

Well if that's the primary reason why aren't you just using Linux
or Mac OS and sparing us your negative xx-ed up attitude? Must
just steam you to see Microsoft release a solid, streamlined AV
product for Windows as evidenced by countless positive reviews. It
just works!
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Wow, what a huge chip you carry on your shoulder. Don't you get tired
of the burden? The only "negative xx-ed up attitude" I smell in this
"conversation" is coming from you.

There's no "must" about it. I'm not in the least bit "steamed" (but you
are, obviously.) Avast works perfectly well, and there's absolutely no
reason right now for me to switch to MSE or any other AV product. Avast
just works!

I like the idea of having a variety of software on my computer and I
prefer that it all doesn't come from Microsoft.
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Charles Tomaras said:
So what does Avast offer you that the FREE and highly rated MS
Security Essentials does not?
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For me, a virus-free environment. As I've posted other times, I've
cleaned up many computers for friends and family that were running
up-to-date MSE but were compromised by viruses and other malware.
Several were repeat customers (after cleanup and reinstalling /
updating MSE and making sure it was automatically updating). After
migrating them to Avast, not one single machine has been infected. It
is possible MSE has improved in the months since then, but after that
experience, I've never looked back and don't plan to.

Oh, and Avast is also FREE (for personal use anyway, don't know about
commercial / business use.)
 
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Brian Gregory [UK]

Zaphod Beeblebrox said:
For me, a virus-free environment. As I've posted other times, I've
cleaned up many computers for friends and family that were running
up-to-date MSE but were compromised by viruses and other malware. Several
were repeat customers (after cleanup and reinstalling / updating MSE and
making sure it was automatically updating). After migrating them to
Avast, not one single machine has been infected. It is possible MSE has
improved in the months since then, but after that experience, I've never
looked back and don't plan to.

Oh, and Avast is also FREE (for personal use anyway, don't know about
commercial / business use.)
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Even though at present I choose MSE rather than AVG or Avast for my own use
I must admit my experience does suggest that the others can detect and
remove some malware that MSE misses. However my own impression, based, I
admin, on a very small sample size, is that it's mainly things that only an
very naive user would let themselves get infected by that MSE doesn't
detect.
 
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G. Morgan

Alex said:
Went to Avast for a while but it
kept telling me my Rosetta Stone was a virus. Went to MSSE and it has
never had a problem for me.
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I've used Avira Anti-Vir for years. How can you stand MSSE? I tried it
on two modern machines and it slowed them to a crawl.
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Brian Gregory said:
Even though at present I choose MSE rather than AVG or Avast for my
own use I must admit my experience does suggest that the others can
detect and remove some malware that MSE misses. However my own
impression, based, I admin, on a very small sample size, is that
it's mainly things that only an very naive user would let themselves
get infected by that MSE doesn't detect.
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Could be, many of my friends and family are the very definition of
naive computer users. That said, if a "Security" product doesn't
handle them, is it worthwhile? Anyone can have a lapse of judgment or
manage to click the wrong thing or mis-type something (Avast saved my
bacon on one occasion after mis-typing an URL, I wonder if MSE would
have fared as well...)

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Brian Gregory said:
Even though at present I choose MSE rather than AVG or Avast for my
own use I must admit my experience does suggest that the others can
detect and remove some malware that MSE misses. However my own
impression, based, I admin, on a very small sample size, is that
it's mainly things that only an very naive user would let themselves
get infected by that MSE doesn't detect.
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Could be, many of my friends and family are the very definition of
naive computer users. That said, if a "Security" product doesn't
handle them, is it worthwhile? Anyone can have a lapse of judgment or
manage to click the wrong thing or mis-type something (Avast saved my
bacon on one occasion after mis-typing an URL, I wonder if MSE would
have fared as well...)

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.
 
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Charles Tomaras

G. Morgan said:
I've used Avira Anti-Vir for years. How can you stand MSSE? I tried it
on two modern machines and it slowed them to a crawl.
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Clearly you are bullshitting us. MSSE does not slow machines to a
crawl....not even less than modern machines. Small footprint, easy on
resources.
 
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Charles Tomaras

Zaphod Beeblebrox said:
Could be, many of my friends and family are the very definition of naive
computer users. That said, if a "Security" product doesn't handle them,
is it worthwhile? Anyone can have a lapse of judgment or manage to click
the wrong thing or mis-type something (Avast saved my bacon on one
occasion after mis-typing an URL, I wonder if MSE would have fared as
well...)
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After many years of many different products (all of the usual AV choices) I
switched 4 personal and family computers over to Windows One Care and then
migrated to MSE when One Care was phased out. No issues, no virus, no
malware, smooth running machines with always current signatures. Condom
works fine, don't need a cumbersome chastity belt.
 
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Alex Clayton

I've used Avira Anti-Vir for years. How can you stand MSSE? I tried it
on two modern machines and it slowed them to a crawl.
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As anyone who reads my stuff knows I am FAR from being close to expert,
but I have not seen that. When I was using Avast and i would run a scan,
then keep working I don't remember noticing anything, but I also do not
see anything happening with MSSE. When I run it I forget it's going. My
machines are nothing "super fast". Both just the bottom price, dual
core, 4 Gig RAM.

--
"Even after the Super Bowl victory of the New Orleans Saints, I have
noticed a large number of people implying with bad jokes that Cajuns
aren't smart. I would like to state for the record that I disagree with
that assessment. Anybody that would build a city 5 feet below sea level
in a hurricane zone and fill it with Democrats is a genius".
'Larry, the cable guy'
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Charles Tomaras said:
After many years of many different products (all of the usual AV
choices) I switched 4 personal and family computers over to Windows
One Care and then migrated to MSE when One Care was phased out. No
issues, no virus, no malware, smooth running machines with always
current signatures. Condom works fine, don't need a cumbersome
chastity belt.
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Avast is hardly a cumbersome chastity belt, more like a condom with
spermicide. And to continue your analogy, if MSE is a condom, it
seems to have the occasional hole. Good luck with that...

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
 
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Alex Clayton

If you used Linux, you wouldn't have to worry about where you surf and
you don't need an AV.
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So I have heard, but after trying it I gave up. I tend to be basically
lazy when it comes to "tecH". I'm big on the WIIFM, and I don't see the
upside to trying to learn it. When I tried on that old machine I made
such a mess I had to reinstall the OS and start over. Could I learn it?
Of course, I have no doubt I could. For now I just don't see any reason
too. I just bought this machine, my birthday present to me, so I am not
about to start trying to partition the drive. I have not even burned the
recovery discs yet. The desk top I have at home is also fairly new so
that is also not one I am about to play with. Do have an old desktop in
the attic that I could play with since I will never use it again anyway,
but I tend to get frustrated too easy with stuff like that.Hell it sent
my blood pressure way up just trying to get that new Wireless router to
work since the damn cd had the instructions screwed up.Some people just
love playing with computers, tearing one down, building their own and
what not. Me, I am addicted to having one. If my connection goes down at
home for an hour I get all kinds of pissed, but I just want to use it. I
have no desire to learn how it works.

--
I met a Genie today that said she would grant me one wish.

"I want to live forever," I said.

"Sorry," said the Genie, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"

"Fine," I said, "then I want to die after Congress gets their heads out
of their a$$e$!"

"You crafty bastard," said the Genie.
 
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Gil

Rarely updates, is ineffective and doesn't find viruses other programs
find.
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That's a load of BS!! There are updates available almost every day!

Been using it since it came out and never had a problem.

You can stick your Linux where the sun don't shine. Been there, done
that, and never again!
 
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G. Morgan

Alex said:
As anyone who reads my stuff knows I am FAR from being close to expert,
but I have not seen that. When I was using Avast and i would run a scan,
then keep working I don't remember noticing anything, but I also do not
see anything happening with MSSE. When I run it I forget it's going. My
machines are nothing "super fast". Both just the bottom price, dual
core, 4 Gig RAM.
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I don't what else to tell you, I'm reporting my experience on 2
machines. It slowed them down so much they were un-usable.

Besides, I'm not sure I want all my 'eggs' in a Microsoft 'basket'. For
them to make an A/V utility is really kind of an oxymoron.
 
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G. Morgan

Ed said:
I'd gladly move to MSE if I could find some good reason to do so.
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Why would you trust M$ to do something that shouldn't even need to
exist? I'd rather trust a dedicated team of researchers, then the
manufacturer.
 
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