Windows 8 Consumer Preview - One word: fail

[BillW50]

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You have evolved from a blob of protoplasm. That cockroach has evolved
from a blob of protoplasm. You are a cockroach.

HELLO!

Show me the data NIl! LOL

 

[BillW50]

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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:23:06 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox

[snip]

Yes, I certainly can say it is not based on the IBM BIOS. You are
using a very loose definition of "based on", I am using a strict one.
Speaking of "Legal" (since you brought it up), no one could legally
claim that the reverse engineered BIOSes were based on the IBM BIOS,
or IBM would have won the lawsuits.

As I recall, it was done with two teams. One team took apart the
BIOS and developed a spec based on it. This was passed to the other
team who wrote a BIOS based on the spec. The teams were not allowed
to talk to each other.

Yes, that is exactly how I remember it too (I even have video how it
happened). A clone that worked exactly like the original, but shared no
code between them.

 

[Char Jackson]

You have evolved from a blob of protoplasm. That cockroach has evolved
from a blob of protoplasm. You are a cockroach.

HELLO!

I LOL'd.

 

[Char Jackson]

Microsoft charged Apple of stealing (yes stealing) the GUI from Xerox
Parc. So Apple had no right to claim it as their own. Thus had to legal
right to protect it.

Now you would think Xerox could step in here and say, yes! The GUI is
our creation and Apple and Microsoft had now stolen it. The problem was,
the Statue of Limitations <snip>

I hope that was a typo. ;-)

I'm weird, but I think things like that are funny, sort of like using
mute when moot is intended.

 

[BillW50]

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AOL? Are they still around? Anyway, look for a logging function in
your email client and see what it tells you. I suspect your problems
have very little to do with the OS, especially since a few million
other people seem to have things working ok.


I don't believe you when you attempt to blame your problems on Windows
updates. You've cried wolf way too often. Just troubleshoot the issue
and fix it.

That is easy Char! Dump the updates! So what do you do when the updates
goes wrong?

 

[Char Jackson]

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That is easy Char! Dump the updates! So what do you do when the updates
goes wrong?

I'll be happy to tell you, but you have to be patient while we both
wait for it to actually happen.

 

[BillW50]

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I hope that was a typo. ;-)

I'm weird, but I think things like that are funny, sort of like using
mute when moot is intended.

You mean I meant "Statute of Limitations"? Yes, dang auto-correct. LOL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

One father gives his child a shock when he attempts to tell them of
their holiday plans

Dad: Your mom and I are going to divorce next month

Child: what??? why! call me please?

Dad: I wrote Disney and this phone changed it. We are going to Disney.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Friend: So how was the date last night bro

Friend: Did you score

Him: not quite. first date we went to dinner and then walked her home

Him: then i killed her in the woods outside her house and left

Friend: Killing her seems a bit harsh. Did she order the lobster and
filet mignon at dinner or something?

Him: **********KISSED wtf

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mom: I've got to tell you something. Are you sitting down?

Son: I am actually. What's up mom?

Mom: Your brother was adopted!

Son: What??? What are you talking about?

Son: Why are you telling me this over text? Call me

Mom: Oh this damn phone. I wrote accepted and the phone changed it. He
got accepted to Yale!

 

[Char Jackson]

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You mean I meant "Statute of Limitations"? Yes, dang auto-correct. LOL

Long ago I had a friend who insisted that it really was Statue versus
Statute, but that was the same friend who insisted that West Virginia
simply referred to the western part of Virginia and wasn't a state in
its own right. He was a hoot.

 

[ray]

Oh gawd! Here we go again... just connect the dots.

Linux is based on Minix

BSD is based on Unix

Minix was re-licensed under the BSD license since April 2000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINIX

Since you're apparently a total idiot, this will be my last try.

Linux was 'inspired by' minix - not based on it.
BSD is not 'based on Unix' - it IS a Unix.
You apparently have no idea what 'licensing' means.

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:56:29 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox

[snip]

"Based on the same publicly published API calls as Minix is based on",
OK sure. But to me, that still doesn't make Linux "based on" Minix or
any other Unix derivative. It shares none of the same code, therefore
it is not a derivative.

It is based on the design. It is derivative of the design.

A cheap knockoff of another product does not use the same parts,
but it does use the design. "knockoff" means derivative. Linux is a
knockoff of UNIX. This is not a statement either way on Linux's
fitness for use.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

You have evolved from a blob of protoplasm. That cockroach has evolved
from a blob of protoplasm. You are a cockroach.

No, that makes us siblings, and we fight like siblings, too.

Almost as bad as USENET can get.

HELLO!

Hello.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[DanS]

I'll be happy to tell you, but you have to be patient while
we both wait for it to actually happen.

LOL!

 

[BillW50]

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Since you're apparently a total idiot, this will be my last try.

I'll agree if you agree you are a bigger idiot! ;-)

Linux was 'inspired by' minix - not based on it.
BSD is not 'based on Unix' - it IS a Unix.
You apparently have no idea what 'licensing' means.

And MS-DOS isn't based on CP/M either (NOT). And I know the CP/M license
had nothing to do with the MS-DOS license.

 

[BillW50]

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Correct. The original Linux kernel was written by Linus Torvalds as a
college project to replace the Minix used by his college at that time.
It was completely new code, but also completely compatible as far as
OS function calls went. The original Linux system could boot and run
from a floppy.

What most people refer to now as Linux is the whole package, which is
more properly known as GNU/ Linux. All open source, and not based on
any other OS or program, although often inspired by them. It is all
licenced under the GPL, which is also open source and available for
all to use. Some distributions contain proprietary code, which is not
released under the GPL.

I don't disagree with any of this. ;-)

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I'll be happy to tell you, but you have to be patient while we both
wait for it to actually happen.

Yup!

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

A little history lesson here. IBM created the IBM-PC from off of the
shelf parts. There was nothing proprietary except the BIOS. IBM thought
they were protected against IBM clones since the clones were worthless
without the IBM BIOS. And the only way you could get one is to buy the
whole IBM-PC machine anyway.

Now comes legal reverse engineering. You can't peek at the source code
(like you could get it anyway)

Until I put it in the recycle bin a couple of months ago, I had a copy
of the source code to the PC BIOS. IBM published and sold it freely.
It's in a book called something similar to "DOS Reference Manual".

 

[pjp]

Until I put it in the recycle bin a couple of months ago, I had a copy
of the source code to the PC BIOS. IBM published and sold it freely.
It's in a book called something similar to "DOS Reference Manual".

I have that book. Was indispensable for me creating my own custom
interrupt driven communications software years ago documenting the
registers etc. back when couldn't buy any canned package. Seem to
remember it had all the source code for the IBM BIOS in it also as well
as complete documentations for every register for every port, keyboard,
display etc., complete (at the time) interrupt list, how low memory was
laid out etc. etc. Indispensable info at the time not easily found
elsewhere given it was before Internet days.

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

[snip]

Long ago I had a friend who insisted that it really was Statue versus
Statute, but that was the same friend who insisted that West Virginia
simply referred to the western part of Virginia and wasn't a state in
its own right. He was a hoot.

I just recently noticed that Virginia extends further west than
West Virginia.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[Joe Morris]

Long ago I had a friend who insisted that it really was Statue versus
Statute, but that was the same friend who insisted that West Virginia
simply referred to the western part of Virginia and wasn't a state in
its own right. He was a hoot.

What did he do for a living? Write history textbooks for the Commonwealth
of Virginia to select for 4th-grade students? (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Masoff)

Joe

 

[Char Jackson]

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I'll agree if you agree you are a bigger idiot! ;-)

Bragging rights over the relative size of the idiot? What has the
world come to? ;-)