Windows 7's desktop does not refresh automatically...


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Ant

Hello.

Like deleting and copying files onto/from desktop. I see this on two of
my updated 64-bit Windows 7 (HPE and EE) SP1 office machines. I tried
various tricks (even registry, but don't have those mentioned keys).
None of them worked/helped. I have to manually press F5 key to refresh. :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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Gordonbp

Hello.

Like deleting and copying files onto/from desktop. I see this on two of
my updated 64-bit Windows 7 (HPE and EE) SP1 office machines. I tried
various tricks (even registry, but don't have those mentioned keys).
None of them worked/helped. I have to manually press F5 key to refresh. :(

Thank you in advance. :)
You don't mention what "those mentioned keys" are.
Did you try this?
* Open RegEdit
* Navigate to
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{BDEADE7F-C265-11D0-BCED-00A0C90AB50F}\Instance
* Edit the DontRefresh property - Make sure the value is set to 0 and
not 1
* Reboot Windows
 
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Ted

*From:* Gordonbp <gordonbparker@yahoo.com>
*Date:* Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:34:15 +0000



You don't mention what "those mentioned keys" are.
Did you try this?
* Open RegEdit
* Navigate to
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{BDEADE7F-C265-11D0-BCED-00A0C90AB50F}\Instanc
e
* Edit the DontRefresh property - Make sure the value is set to 0
and not 1
* Reboot Windows
I have tried that, and all the other suggested "fixes" I could find on the internet,
but none of have them made the slightest difference.

This is, quite simply, a well known BUG in W7 and unless Microsoft care to bring
out a proper fix (seems unlikely now, as Win 8 is all that matters to MS) no amount
of registry hacking or other tweaking will fix it.
 
A

Ant

Like deleting and copying files onto/from desktop. I see this on
I have tried that, and all the other suggested "fixes" I could find on the internet,
but none of have them made the slightest difference.
This is, quite simply, a well known BUG in W7 and unless Microsoft care to bring
out a proper fix (seems unlikely now, as Win 8 is all that matters to MS) no amount
of registry hacking or other tweaking will fix it.
I don't even have this registry key. :(

It's sad that many people have this problem, and MS still hasn't fixed
it. [sighs] :(
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Bob I

I have tried that, and all the other suggested "fixes" I could find on the internet,
but none of have them made the slightest difference.
This is, quite simply, a well known BUG in W7 and unless Microsoft care to bring
out a proper fix (seems unlikely now, as Win 8 is all that matters to MS) no amount
of registry hacking or other tweaking will fix it.
I don't even have this registry key. :(

It's sad that many people have this problem, and MS still hasn't fixed
it. [sighs] :(
Try this thread.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/win-7-desktop-does-not-auto-refresh/249f4794-13c8-4fc5-939c-b3d1fe6433fb?page=2
 
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Ted

*From:* Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com>
*Date:* Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:13:47 -0600

Like deleting and copying files onto/from desktop. I see this on
two of
my updated 64-bit Windows 7 (HPE and EE) SP1 office machines. I
tried
various tricks (even registry, but don't have those mentioned keys).
None of them worked/helped. I have to manually press F5 key to
refresh. :(

Thank you in advance. :)

You don't mention what "those mentioned keys" are.
Did you try this?
* Open RegEdit
* Navigate to
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{BDEADE7F-C265-11D0-BCED-00A0C90AB50F}\Instanc
e
* Edit the DontRefresh property - Make sure the value is set to 0
and not 1
* Reboot Windows
I have tried that, and all the other suggested "fixes" I could find on the internet,
but none of have them made the slightest difference.
This is, quite simply, a well known BUG in W7 and unless Microsoft care to bring
out a proper fix (seems unlikely now, as Win 8 is all that matters to MS) no amount
of registry hacking or other tweaking will fix it.
I don't even have this registry key. :(

It's sad that many people have this problem, and MS still hasn't
fixed
it. [sighs] :(
Try this thread.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/win
-7-desktop-does-not-auto-refresh/249f4794-13c8-4fc5-939c-b3d1fe6433fb?
page=2
These threads have been rumbling on for years. The same "fixes" get trotted out
over and over parrot-fashion by people who read it on one thread and then just
repeat it elsewhere. NONE of the suggested fixes have ever worked for me.

Ok, some may work (or appear to work for a time) for some people, but nothing
suggested has made any difference here.

The problem is one only Microsoft can fix, and I suspect the reason they have not
done so is because it is not possible to fx it with a patch, but actually needs
some major re-writing of some core windows code, which they are not prepared to do,
especially now that MS are busy pushing W8.
 
P

Paul

Ted said:
*From:* Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com>
*Date:* Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:13:47 -0600

Like deleting and copying files onto/from desktop. I see this on
two of
my updated 64-bit Windows 7 (HPE and EE) SP1 office machines. I
tried
various tricks (even registry, but don't have those mentioned keys).
None of them worked/helped. I have to manually press F5 key to
refresh. :(

Thank you in advance. :)
You don't mention what "those mentioned keys" are.
Did you try this?
* Open RegEdit
* Navigate to
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{BDEADE7F-C265-11D0-BCED-00A0C90AB50F}\Instanc
e
* Edit the DontRefresh property - Make sure the value is set to 0
and not 1
* Reboot Windows
I have tried that, and all the other suggested "fixes" I could find on the internet,
but none of have them made the slightest difference.
This is, quite simply, a well known BUG in W7 and unless Microsoft care to bring
out a proper fix (seems unlikely now, as Win 8 is all that matters to MS) no amount
of registry hacking or other tweaking will fix it.
I don't even have this registry key. :(

It's sad that many people have this problem, and MS still hasn't
fixed
it. [sighs] :(
Try this thread.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/win
-7-desktop-does-not-auto-refresh/249f4794-13c8-4fc5-939c-b3d1fe6433fb?
page=2
These threads have been rumbling on for years. The same "fixes" get trotted out
over and over parrot-fashion by people who read it on one thread and then just
repeat it elsewhere. NONE of the suggested fixes have ever worked for me.

Ok, some may work (or appear to work for a time) for some people, but nothing
suggested has made any difference here.

The problem is one only Microsoft can fix, and I suspect the reason they have not
done so is because it is not possible to fx it with a patch, but actually needs
some major re-writing of some core windows code, which they are not prepared to do,
especially now that MS are busy pushing W8.
Of the items listed here, (4) is interesting.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/software/3346081/what-do-when-windows-explorer-doesnt-refresh/

If the refresh function is implemented by "hooks" to the file system,
then any application which installs its own hooks, might be a
potential candidate for causing the problem. And that is where
(4) comes in. If not all Windows 7 users have your experience, then
some installed software must be making a difference. The difference
could be via timing (race condition), or in the case of (4), the
necessary event never reaches the Microsoft code.

Paul
 
A

Ant

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/software/3346081/what-do-when-windows-explorer-doesnt-refresh/

Wow since Vista era? I don't remember seeing that problem in that one.
Just W7. Hmm!
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Ted

Of the items listed here, (4) is interesting.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/software/3346081/what-do-when-windows-
explorer-doesnt-refresh/

If the refresh function is implemented by "hooks" to the file system,
then any application which installs its own hooks, might be a
potential candidate for causing the problem. And that is where
(4) comes in. If not all Windows 7 users have your experience, then
some installed software must be making a difference. The difference
could be via timing (race condition), or in the case of (4), the
necessary event never reaches the Microsoft code.

Paul
Thanks Paul,
That looks worth following up. I have just used ShellExView to disable all the
non-Microsoft hooks and will see what happens.

Of course, one of the most annoying things is the unpredictability of this bug, so
a quick test can only tell me if it is NOT fixed (i.e. if the bug re-occurs
quickly). Otherwise I will let it run for a few days to see if it really makes any
difference.

Ted.
 
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Ted

Thanks Paul,
That looks worth following up. I have just used ShellExView to
disable all the
non-Microsoft hooks and will see what happens.

Of course, one of the most annoying things is the unpredictability of
this bug, so
a quick test can only tell me if it is NOT fixed (i.e. if the bug
re-occurs
quickly). Otherwise I will let it run for a few days to see if it
really makes any difference.
Unfortunately the problem has continued, so it is nothing to do with 3rd party
hooks.
 
D

Dave-UK

Ted said:
Unfortunately the problem has continued, so it is nothing to do with 3rd party
hooks.
What did you do to check that this 'problem' was still there?
I've never heard of this bug until I saw this thread.
 
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Ted

*From:* "Dave-UK" <1@2.com>
*Date:* Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:14:38 -0000



What did you do to check that this 'problem' was still there?
I've never heard of this bug until I saw this thread.
Simply went to a folder containing some files I no longer wanted.
Delete them, but although they were deleted, they did not disappear from the
explorer folder view until I pressed F5 to refresh the folder.
This is just one a typical example of the bug.
 
A

Ant

Try this thread.
Um, which one? I already tried looking for that DontRefresh registry key
which does not exist. I even searched DontRefresh keyword, and nada!
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A

Ant

Like deleting and copying files onto/from desktop. I see this on two of
my updated 64-bit Windows 7 (HPE and EE) SP1 office machines. I tried
various tricks (even registry, but don't have those mentioned keys).
None of them worked/helped. I have to manually press F5 key to refresh. :(
It looks like I finally found the fix for my W7 machine:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproui/thread/c8b1f896-bbb7-43b8-be8e-5d28916268e0

Disabling Windows write-cache buffer flushing on my HDD made it work! It
is too early to say this is really is fixed, but preliminary tests
worked! :)

I wonder if this will work for other people with this problem too?
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Gene E. Bloch

Um, which one? I already tried looking for that DontRefresh registry key
which does not exist. I even searched DontRefresh keyword, and nada!
You create the key in the place where the poster tells you to.

The poster I mean is gc117 in the last reply.
 
A

Ant

Disabling Windows write-cache buffer flushing on my HDD made it work! It
is too early to say this is really is fixed, but preliminary tests
worked! :)
I wonder if this will work for other people with this problem too?
Nope. It didn't work. :( Undoing and redoing it didn't make any
differences. Boo.
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Ant

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/win-7-desktop-does-not-auto-refresh/249f4794-13c8-4fc5-939c-b3d1fe6433fb?page=2
You create the key in the place where the poster tells you to.
The poster I mean is gc117 in the last reply.
I assume this registry key I made, tested, and exported to a .reg file:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\{BDEADE7F-C265-11D0-BCED-00A0C90AB50F}\Instance]
"DontRefresh"="0"

It didn't fix the problem. :(
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