Windows 7 professional with 2 gigs of memory


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BillW50

I see computers ads by computer manufacturers targeted at the business
community with win 7 professional 64 bit but only 2 gigs of memory.

Why are they skimping on the memory?

One example

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1737404&CatId=4929


FD
Because if you only spend 500 bucks for a computer, you are *not* going
to get a lot of memory. Although spend four grand on a high end Dell or
an Alienware and you will probably get 8GB or more.

Btw, be careful about TigerDirect. While you can get good deals from
them from time to time. They also sell name brand systems that are the
manufacture's rejects which the manufacture doesn't even support (some
of them are *real* lemons). They have been sued over this before (Dell
has for one). But I don't think TigerDirect even cares.
 
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Paul

FD said:
I see computers ads by computer manufacturers targeted at the business
community with win 7 professional 64 bit but only 2 gigs of memory.

Why are they skimping on the memory?

One example

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1737404&CatId=4929


FD
Box comes with a $64 processor.

http://ark.intel.com/products/53483/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G630-(3M-Cache-2_70-GHz)

How much did you expect them to spend on RAM ? :)

I'd say there was a juicy profit on that one.

I bet it's faster than my Win7 laptop though.

Paul
 
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FD

Box comes with a $64 processor.

http://ark.intel.com/products/53483/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G630-(3M-Cache-2_70-GHz)


How much did you expect them to spend on RAM ? :)

I'd say there was a juicy profit on that one.

I bet it's faster than my Win7 laptop though.

Paul

I bought this one for my office

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_124&item_id=039772

I purchased win 7 home premium for OEM for 104 dollars from the same
place and installed
it with no difficulty.

It has a solid gigabyte motherboard

I am happy with my total cost of 329 plus 104 dollars - 433 dollars
before tax.

There is only a small CC logo on the case!

FD
 
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charlie

I see computers ads by computer manufacturers targeted at the business
community with win 7 professional 64 bit but only 2 gigs of memory.

Why are they skimping on the memory?
1. Because they can!
2. Price Point.
3. It's just enough RAM to do most "simple" office tasks.

It hasn't been very long since 256-512Meg was more memory than you might
possibly need in an average office environment. (Think 486 desktop P/Cs
and Windows 3.11.)

The sad part is that software "bloat" has consumed the hardware almost
continuously, resulting in more "whistles and bells", and not the speed
increase that everyone might prefer.
 
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Leon Manfredi

1. Because they can!
2. Price Point.
3. It's just enough RAM to do most "simple" office tasks.

It hasn't been very long since 256-512Meg was more memory than you might
possibly need in an average office environment. (Think 486 desktop P/Cs
and Windows 3.11.)

The sad part is that software "bloat" has consumed the hardware almost
continuously, resulting in more "whistles and bells", and not the speed
increase that everyone might prefer.
Ram Drive.......... Possible or Not and how if possible? (Win7)
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

charlie said:
1. Because they can!
2. Price Point.
3. It's just enough RAM to do most "simple" office tasks.
Yes, I was going to say point 3. It may actually be more than just
enough; I don't know what the difference in memory requirements between
Starter and Professional is, but they're still selling machines - at
least netbooks, I think a few others - with only 1G; presumably these
actually work.
It hasn't been very long since 256-512Meg was more memory than you
might possibly need in an average office environment. (Think 486
desktop P/Cs and Windows 3.11.)
Eh? My first PC (Windows 3.1) - granted only a 386SX - had 4M! By the
time I got up to 486, I don't think I had more than 16M, or possibly 32,
and it was flying along; my old '98lite laptop works perfectly
adequately in its 128M. 256 would just about run (though crawl would be
a better description - I've used such a system) XP; 512 was more than
adequate for XP up to SP1 or maybe 2, if you didn't do much.

I don't think many 486 mobos would actually _take_ 256-512M, though I
could be wrong about that.
The sad part is that software "bloat" has consumed the hardware almost
continuously, resulting in more "whistles and bells", and not the speed
increase that everyone might prefer.
Another sad way of looking at it is that they always stop making the
bottom end machines; the cheapest you can get _has_ fallen over the
years, but very gradually, because the spec. of the cheapest machines
keeps going up. Thus access to computing remains out of the hands of the
poorest - other than second-hand of course, though that has support
problems.
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I'm sometimes a bit bewildered by that, really - there are no young people in
it, there's no sex, there's no violence, no car chases and there's no action
and no vampires. - Colin Firth on the success of the film "The King's Speech".
Radio Times 10-16 September 2011
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

Because if you only spend 500 bucks for a computer, you are *not* going
to get a lot of memory. Although spend four grand on a high end Dell or
an Alienware and you will probably get 8GB or more.
Even if you don't need it. It's difficult to find anything that
actually needs 8GB

Steve

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charlie

Yes, I was going to say point 3. It may actually be more than just
enough; I don't know what the difference in memory requirements between
Starter and Professional is, but they're still selling machines - at
least netbooks, I think a few others - with only 1G; presumably these
actually work.

Eh? My first PC (Windows 3.1) - granted only a 386SX - had 4M! By the
time I got up to 486, I don't think I had more than 16M, or possibly 32,
and it was flying along; my old '98lite laptop works perfectly
adequately in its 128M. 256 would just about run (though crawl would be
a better description - I've used such a system) XP; 512 was more than
adequate for XP up to SP1 or maybe 2, if you didn't do much.

I don't think many 486 mobos would actually _take_ 256-512M, though I
could be wrong about that.
Another sad way of looking at it is that they always stop making the
bottom end machines; the cheapest you can get _has_ fallen over the
years, but very gradually, because the spec. of the cheapest machines
keeps going up. Thus access to computing remains out of the hands of the
poorest - other than second-hand of course, though that has support
problems.

The power supply is also a bit small 280W, and the MBD has a limit of 8G.

The 386 MBDs and naturally, the processor, were more memory limited. As
I remember, the 486 was capable of more than the average MBD supported
at the time. But, I could be mistaken. When the 486 was king, I knew
what each windows dll and other files were for. (win 3.11, and to some
extent win 95) After that I just gave up due to the shear numbers.
Win 3.11 was also the lasr version that really allowed you to get "down
& dirty" with I/O in a DOS style app program. After that, getting "real
time" response got really tricky.
 
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BillW50

In
Stephen said:
Even if you don't need it. It's difficult to find anything that
actually needs 8GB

Steve
You know how lemmings are. As if their machine can accept 8GB of RAM,
some just has to have it.
 
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Bob I

To "advertise" a lower price point, same thing happens in car sales, big
font in ad says "prices starting at $19,950" but at bottom of the ad in
fine print, "as shown, $28,745".
 
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Bob I

Ram Drive.......... Possible or Not and how if possible? (Win7)
First, Ram Drive should not be used as a verb. But on a serious note,
are you?
 
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Allen Drake

Even if you don't need it. It's difficult to find anything that
actually needs 8GB

Steve

Video editing and CAD to mention two. Try Autodesk Inventor on less
then 8 Gigs and see how you like it. Mega RAM and a high end CPU will
do wonders rendering video files.
 
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Stephen Wolstenholme

Video editing and CAD to mention two. Try Autodesk Inventor on less
then 8 Gigs and see how you like it. Mega RAM and a high end CPU will
do wonders rendering video files.
OK. I now know but it's not my line!

I feel a bit stupid now as I have discovered that one of my own
applications runs about 10 times faster with lots of RAM because it
doesn't need overlays. I put so much effort into getting it to work
with not much RAM! What a wasted effort. I could have just sat back
for about twenty years while RAM caught up!

Steve

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Ken Blake

I see computers ads by computer manufacturers targeted at the business
community with win 7 professional 64 bit but only 2 gigs of memory.

Why are they skimping on the memory?

Because the less memory they give you the less it costs them, and the
less they can sell the computer for. A cheaper computer is easier to
sell than a more expensive one.

If you want more, you can almost always add it.
 

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