Windows 7 32-bit version question

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kraut / larry stark

Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version (Does it come in 32-bit)?

Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.

Thanks.
 
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Wolf K

Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version (Does it come in 32-bit)?
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_versions

"There is no direct way to upgrade from XP. "
Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.

Thanks.
I think you need to ask yourself why you want to put a new OS on your
existing machine. Is it so that you can run new software? Doesn't sound
like it. The main advantage of W7 over XP is that it's much more secure.
If your existing software serves your needs, I'd keep XP, and install W7
on a separate partition (or even a new hard drive, they're cheap these
days). Use W7 for the internet, and disconnect the XP side of the
machine from the web (except maybe for updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389). This way you can migrate from
XP to W7 gradually, as updated versions of your software become available.

A 64-bit OS can run 32-bit programs, but not vice versa. I use W7 Pro
64-bit, and I haven't had a problem yet. AIUI, the only downside of
doing this is wasted data-width, because the OS fetches 32-bit
instructions but uses 64-bit wide data path. If there are glitches, you
can set W7 to run an older program in "compatibility mode".

HTH
Wolf K.

PS: I kept XP on this machine, because there's no W7 driver for my
ancient but extremely reliable b/w laser printer.
 
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SC Tom

kraut / larry stark said:
Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version (Does it come in 32-bit)?

Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.

Thanks.
There is no direct upgrade from XP to 7. It's a clean install with a folder that keeps your old XP programs/settings
(very simply put). Do a search through this newsgroup and you'll find numerous articles regarding it. Also, on the web,
there are a number of sites that discuss the method. Even the Microsoft sites have in-depth instructions on how to do
it. Google/Bing/Yahoo can be your friend :)
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Kraut.

Why ask us here when it is so easy to get the official word straight from
Microsoft (click on Compare):
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/shop/buying-windows-7-top-questions

But, yes, all Win7 versions come in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, and all
but Home Basic include both discs. You'll get the two discs and a single
Product Key; install whichever version you want and use that one key to
activate it.

Most 32-bit programs run fine in 64-bit Win7. Are you sure your programs
won't? If you list the names of a few of them, someone here should be able
to advise you.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"kraut / larry stark" wrote in message

Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version (Does it come in 32-bit)?

Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.

Thanks.
 
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Char Jackson

If your existing software serves your needs, I'd keep XP, and install W7
on a separate partition (or even a new hard drive, they're cheap these
days).
Maybe not so cheap. :)
Some hard drive prices rose approximately 400% as a result of the
flooding in Thailand earlier in the year and are just now coming down
to where they are 'only' 300% above what they were.
 
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GreyCloud

Wolf said:
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_versions

"There is no direct way to upgrade from XP. "


I think you need to ask yourself why you want to put a new OS on your
existing machine. Is it so that you can run new software? Doesn't sound
like it. The main advantage of W7 over XP is that it's much more secure.
If your existing software serves your needs, I'd keep XP, and install W7
on a separate partition (or even a new hard drive, they're cheap these
days). Use W7 for the internet, and disconnect the XP side of the
machine from the web (except maybe for updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389). This way you can migrate from
XP to W7 gradually, as updated versions of your software become available.

A 64-bit OS can run 32-bit programs, but not vice versa. I use W7 Pro
64-bit, and I haven't had a problem yet. AIUI, the only downside of
doing this is wasted data-width, because the OS fetches 32-bit
instructions but uses 64-bit wide data path.
Not necessarily true. The new Intel processors have pretty much made
64-bit programs far more efficient than than the older 32-bit Intel
programs. In 64-bit mode the excessive use of push and pop parameters
onto a stack held in memory is pretty much eliminated.
By using the internal registers, or doing register-to-register moves, is
quite a bit faster than the wasted clock cycles of moving a parameter
out into memory. The extra registers are only found at the 64-bit mode
and can't be used in the 32-bit mode. Intel is one of the odd balls out
there that do this. If windows were running on an IBM FX-970 processor,
then running a program in 32-bit mode would be slightly faster than the
same program built to 64-bit specifications... especially the small
programs. Both of their 32-bit and 64-bit processors can run the same
program provided that the program doesn't go out of the 4Gb memory range.
For Intel, it is the other way around.
 
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Steve Hayes

Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version (Does it come in 32-bit)?

Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.
Only if you downgrade to Vista first.

You can't upgrade directly from XP to 7.
 
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kraut / larry stark

Hi, Kraut.

Why ask us here when it is so easy to get the official word straight from
Microsoft (click on Compare):
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/shop/buying-windows-7-top-questions

But, yes, all Win7 versions come in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, and all
but Home Basic include both discs. You'll get the two discs and a single
Product Key; install whichever version you want and use that one key to
activate it.

Most 32-bit programs run fine in 64-bit Win7. Are you sure your programs
won't? If you list the names of a few of them, someone here should be able
to advise you.

RC
Thanks R. C.

Maybe instead of asking about "Upgrading" to W7 32-bit I should have
just asked if W7 came in 32-bit version.

I forgot that a person has to word questions just so to just get a
direct answer and not all the opinions that people think they need to
give.

Thanks again R. C.
 
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Ken1943

Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version (Does it come in 32-bit)?

Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.

Thanks.
You have to check your hardware is up to snuff. Can you put 4 gigs of ram
in your mobo ? 32 bit will only use about 3.2 gigs of it, but you still
want 4 gigs.
You have to make sure your cpu is 64 bit capable for 64 bit win 7.
If your old programs are 16 bit, you would have to get the Pro version
and run XP in virtual mode.
I have some 10 year old 32 bit programs that run fine on 64 bit win 7.


KenW
 
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Ken Blake

Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version

No. You can use an Upgrade version of Windows 7, but an upgrade is not
possible. You must do a clean installation with it.

(Does it come in 32-bit)?

Yes.


Also note that if you move from XP to Windows 7, you may find that
there are no Windows 7 drivers for some of your hardware.. It's wise
to check all of that out in advance.

Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.

What programs? With the exception of some utilities, very few programs
will not run on 64-bit Windows 7. But note that you need a 64-bit
computer to run 64-bit Windows, and only few computers of the Windows
XP era were 64-bit.
 
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Six Underground

or even a new hard drive, they're cheap these
days
Actually, I got quite a shock the other day when I checked
Newegg's prices on drives. They started at $79.99 and
only went up from there. Same deal with Tigerdirect.
The last time I purchased drives, I bought a Seagate
160 GB drive for $39.99, and a Seagate 640 GB drive
for $69.99. That was a year or so ago. I'm wondering
when this priced jump occurred, and why.

Regards.
 
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Six Underground

Some hard drive prices rose approximately 400% as a result of the
flooding in Thailand earlier in the year and are just now coming down
to where they are 'only' 300% above what they were.
Thanks!

You just answered the question in my post.

Regards.
 
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R. C. White

Hi, Six.

You must have been underground. ;^{ The story has been all over the world.
Floods in SE Asia - especially Thailand - where most of the word's hard disk
drives are produced have caused a dramatic increase in prices. Here's the
first story, dated two weeks ago, from a Bing search for "floods thailand
drives"; there are plenty of other stories:
http://bostonglobe.com/business/201...ces-soaring/suB0pqJADEMYtbepUgBVpM/story.html

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Six Underground" wrote in message

or even a new hard drive, they're cheap these
days
Actually, I got quite a shock the other day when I checked
Newegg's prices on drives. They started at $79.99 and
only went up from there. Same deal with Tigerdirect.
The last time I purchased drives, I bought a Seagate
160 GB drive for $39.99, and a Seagate 640 GB drive
for $69.99. That was a year or so ago. I'm wondering
when this priced jump occurred, and why.

Regards.
 
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Stewart

Wolf K said:
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_versions

"There is no direct way to upgrade from XP. "
I did....Win XP pro 32 to Win 7 32 on one of my laptops. There is an
upgrade version that I purchased that once installed all of my
software was still available and working (of course, YMMV).

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-Premium-Upgrade/dp/B002DHLUWK

I think you need to ask yourself why you want to put a new OS on
your existing machine. Is it so that you can run new software?
Doesn't sound like it. The main advantage of W7 over XP is that it's
much more secure.
It also more well behaved when comong out of hibernation.....for me,
XP was iffy, at best. Win 7, I can go a few weeks before needing a
reboot.
 
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Stewart

SC Tom said:
There is no direct upgrade from XP to 7. It's a clean install with a
folder that keeps your old XP programs/settings (very simply put).
Do a search through this newsgroup and you'll find numerous articles
regarding it. Also, on the web, there are a number of sites that
discuss the method. Even the Microsoft sites have in-depth
instructions on how to do it. Google/Bing/Yahoo can be your friend
:)
You can upgrade from XP 32 to Win 7 32, but not to the 64 version.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-Premium-Upgrade/dp/B002DHLUWK

Worked well for me.
 
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Six Underground

You must have been underground. ;^{ The story has been all over the world.
Floods in SE Asia - especially Thailand - where most of the word's hard disk
drives are produced have caused a dramatic increase in prices.
Hi..

Thanks for the reply and the link. I'm sure I did hear about
the flooding on the network news, but I really don't read
much on the web, so I never put the two events together.

I'm not sure why, but I was under the impression that
most drives were manufactured in Singapore or
Malaysia. I probably saw that on some of the drives
I've purchased in the past.

Have a happy new year.
 
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Allen

Hi, Six.

You must have been underground. ;^{ The story has been all over the
world. Floods in SE Asia - especially Thailand - where most of the
word's hard disk drives are produced have caused a dramatic increase in
prices. Here's the first story, dated two weeks ago, from a Bing search
for "floods thailand drives"; there are plenty of other stories:
http://bostonglobe.com/business/201...ces-soaring/suB0pqJADEMYtbepUgBVpM/story.html


RC
--
<snip>It's hard for me to believe that blind luck was on my side for
once. I bought a 3 terabyte WD USB3 drive only a day or two before
someone lit the fuse on the skyrocket. $107 at Costco, as I recall.
Allen
 
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Roy Smith

Running XP home 32-bit and was wondering if can upgrade to Windows 7
32-bit version (Does it come in 32-bit)?

Lot of my programs will not run on 64-bit and do not want to find
replacements.
Yes you can upgrade, but unfortunately an upgrade from XP to Win 7
requires that you format your drive and install Win 7 from scratch. The
upgrade package does include 2 DVDs, one for 32-bit systems and the
other is for 64-bit systems. Before upgrading I'd recommend running the
upgrade adviser to see if your system can handle Windows 7, you can get
it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=20


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Thunderbird 9.0.1
Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:52:51 AM
 

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