Win7 Backup & Restore?

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Dave-UK

Ok, I tried the fixed provided via the link. It produced the
following error:

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In the Registry Editor Window:

Cannot import
C:\users\charlie\appdata\local\temp\WZ873a\fix-w7backupkeys.reg
Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are
open by the system or other processes.
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Just to check, I booted to Safe Mode and tried the fix again, with the
same error produced.

Where do I go from here to fix the problem?

charliec
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I downloaded the reg file and tried to Merge it and got the error
that you are reporting. The web page says you have to change the
permissions of the reg key.

So I did this:
From an admin account open Regedit and go to:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B98A2BEA-7D42-4558-8BD1-832F41BAC6FD}

Right-click > Permissions
Click on the 'Advanced' button.
Select the 'Owner' tab.
Select the box 'Replace the owner on subcontainers and objects'.
Under 'Change owner to:' select Administrators.
Apply > Ok
Back on the Security tab, under 'Group or user names:' select Administrators.
Under 'Permissions for Administrators' select Allow/Full Control.
Ok out.

Now the reg file should be merged ok.

If you are unable for any reason to edit the registry then I suggest
a system restore to a point in time before Acronis was installed.
 
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Steve Hayes

Congratulations! You made the mistake of installing Acronis
TrueImage, and it hijacked the Windows Backup so that "Backup and
Restore" won't even open. I have the same problem; I posted about it
a year or so ago.
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Something similar happens when you install Nero optical disc burni ng programs
-- they disable the native Windows onesw, and you can't get them back. Only
when it is too late do you discover that the Nero software has less
functionality than the one that comes with Windows.
 
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charliec

Something similar happens when you install Nero optical disc burni ng programs
-- they disable the native Windows onesw, and you can't get them back. Only
when it is too late do you discover that the Nero software has less
functionality than the one that comes with Windows.
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I have that problem with Win7Backup and Restore - were you able the
resolve them or did you have to completely reinstall Win7. I spoke
with Dell Tech Support and they want to completely reinstall the
original Win7 and that will create a lot of work as I would have to
reinstall all my programs, etc.

Another question - does this problem have any impact on getting Win7's
Windows updates?

Thanks
charliec
 
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charliec

Something similar happens when you install Nero optical disc burni ng programs
-- they disable the native Windows onesw, and you can't get them back. Only
when it is too late do you discover that the Nero software has less
functionality than the one that comes with Windows.
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Oh, another quick question - what backup program do you folks use. I'm
mainly concerned with File and Folder Backups - have never done much
system imaging.

charliec
 
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Ken Blake

Oh, another quick question - what backup program do you folks use. I'm
mainly concerned with File and Folder Backups - have never done much
system imaging.
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I use more than a backup program. I use a backup operating
system--Windows Home Server.
 
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Paul

Oh, another quick question - what backup program do you folks use. I'm
mainly concerned with File and Folder Backups - have never done much
system imaging.

charliec
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If it's still not working for you, try this.

You want an elevated command prompt windows.

1) Go to start. Type in "cmd"
2) It'll find "cmd.exe". Right click on that
entry and select "Run As Administrator".
3) A MSDOS style window will open...

4) Now, the command to use is

sdclt.exe /configure /target

What that is supposed to do, is first put up a prompt
asking what external drive you want to store the backup
on. Typical destinations could be a hard drive, or
you can use a stack of blank DVDs for your backup.

After you satisfy that query, and select a destination,
the next window asks what to backup (sources).

You can "Let Windows Choose", or customize.
Choose the customize option, to see whether
sufficient options are there for your purposes.

Microsoft does not document that program. The program
itself does not support /? . People have been deducing
some of it, using hex editors and looking at resource
strings inside. There are several posts out there, giving
lists of the commands. I found the combination of
"configure" and "target" in a vbs script written
by the guy on sevenforums.

If you just do "sdclt.exe /configure", that takes me
to the web-page like interface, which has a broken link
when you want to select the target. Using "/target"
skips the web-page like interface and starts the dialogs
for specifying what to backup.

HTH,
Paul
 
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charliec

If it's still not working for you, try this.

You want an elevated command prompt windows.

1) Go to start. Type in "cmd"
2) It'll find "cmd.exe". Right click on that
entry and select "Run As Administrator".
3) A MSDOS style window will open...

4) Now, the command to use is

sdclt.exe /configure /target

What that is supposed to do, is first put up a prompt
asking what external drive you want to store the backup
on. Typical destinations could be a hard drive, or
you can use a stack of blank DVDs for your backup.

After you satisfy that query, and select a destination,
the next window asks what to backup (sources).

You can "Let Windows Choose", or customize.
Choose the customize option, to see whether
sufficient options are there for your purposes.

Microsoft does not document that program. The program
itself does not support /? . People have been deducing
some of it, using hex editors and looking at resource
strings inside. There are several posts out there, giving
lists of the commands. I found the combination of
"configure" and "target" in a vbs script written
by the guy on sevenforums.

If you just do "sdclt.exe /configure", that takes me
to the web-page like interface, which has a broken link
when you want to select the target. Using "/target"
skips the web-page like interface and starts the dialogs
for specifying what to backup.

HTH,
Paul
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Thanks for the reply - I will look into that.
charliec
 
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Steve Hayes

Oh, another quick question - what backup program do you folks use. I'm
mainly concerned with File and Folder Backups - have never done much
system imaging.
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Batch files.
 
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charliec

That's lovely, but it doesn't address my problem, which is that
Backup and Restore won't even open.
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Same here, Backup and Restore will not open and I get an error trying
to apply the fix.

charliec
 
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Steve Hayes

What is the Batch files procedure and how does it work. Do you have
the codes for it?
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Here's one of mine. Obviously you would need to write one to back up the files
you wanted to on your computer.

@echo off
cls
C:
cd \
ECHO Backing up data files to DVD-RW
ECHO Make sure blank FORMATTED DVD-RW disc is in DVD Writer drive
ECHO Press Enter to continue or Ctrl-C to quit
ECHO This is COMPLETE backup, for initialising new disk
PAUSE
ECHO Backing up askSam files
E:
cd \asksam
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
move *.sav f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\ASKSAM\*.* H:\ASKSAM\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Inmagic files
E:
cd \inmagic
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\INMAGIC\*.* H:\INMAGIC\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up HTML files
E:
cd \html
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\HTML\*.* H:\HTML\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Family History System files
E:
cd \family
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\FAMILY\*.* H:\FAMILY\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Legacy files
e:
cd \Legacy
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\Legacy\*.* H:\Legacy\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Orthodox mission book
g:
cd \ORTHMISS
cd \
XCOPY g:\ORTHMISS\*.* H:\ORTHMISS\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Neighbourhood Watch Inmagic files
g:
cd \NWATCH
cd \
XCOPY G:\NWATCH\*.* H:\NWATCH\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up "Steve's My Documents" folder
ECHO Moving backup files
g:
cd \stevedoc
move *.wbk f:\tempback
move *.bak F:\tempback
XCOPY G:\SteveDoc\*.* H:\STEVEDOC\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Batch files
c:
cd \BELFRY
xdel *.bak /s /n
xdel *.tmp /s /n
cd \
XCOPY C:\BELFRY\*.* H:\BELFRY\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Client files
XCOPY E:\CLIENT\*.* H:\CLIENT\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Missionalia abstracts
g:
cd \MISSABST
xdel *.bak /s /n
xdel *.tmp /s /n
xdel *.sav /s /n
cd \
XCOPY G:\MISSABST\*.* H:\MISSABST\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Text files
g:
cd \textfile
xdel *.bak /s /n
xdel *.tmp /s /n
xdel *.sav /s /n
cd \
XCOPY G:\textfile\*.* H:\Textfile\ /E /Y
ECHO Logging backup
H:
cd \
FU LOG g:\textfile\log\usage.log Backed up changed data files to DVD RW
FU LOG H:\BACKREC.TXT Backed up changed datafiles reset archive bit
DIR >> H:\BACKREC.TXT
ECHO Backup finished!
PAUSE
DIR
 
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Dave-UK

Same here, Backup and Restore will not open and I get an error trying
to apply the fix.

charliec
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You have been told what to do.
Take ownership of the reg key first.
It's all there in pictures on the web page.
I've described how to do it as well.
Instead of bitching about your problem all the time do some Googling yourself.
This is one of pages from the Acronis support page:
Acronis Backup & Recovery 11: Manual Uninstallation.
http://kb.acronis.com/content/32390

It mentions a cleanup tool on that page, get it from here:
Acronis Backup & Recovery 11 Cleanup Utility
http://kb.acronis.com/content/24952

If you still have problems then talk to Acronis. They are
responsible for the crap software they write and sell.
As I've told you before, if you can't manage any of that, then do a system restore.
 
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charliec

You have been told what to do.
Take ownership of the reg key first.
It's all there in pictures on the web page.
I've described how to do it as well.
Instead of bitching about your problem all the time do some Googling yourself.
This is one of pages from the Acronis support page:
Acronis Backup & Recovery 11: Manual Uninstallation.
http://kb.acronis.com/content/32390

It mentions a cleanup tool on that page, get it from here:
Acronis Backup & Recovery 11 Cleanup Utility
http://kb.acronis.com/content/24952

If you still have problems then talk to Acronis. They are
responsible for the crap software they write and sell.
As I've told you before, if you can't manage any of that, then do a system restore.
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Why do you answer/reply to questions if all you have is problems with
the question - why not be mature and just ignore it and move on to
something you like - do you enjoy "blasting" people? I would never do
that - if I did not have an answer, I would move on to the next
message!
 
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charliec

Here's one of mine. Obviously you would need to write one to back up the files
you wanted to on your computer.

@echo off
cls
C:
cd \
ECHO Backing up data files to DVD-RW
ECHO Make sure blank FORMATTED DVD-RW disc is in DVD Writer drive
ECHO Press Enter to continue or Ctrl-C to quit
ECHO This is COMPLETE backup, for initialising new disk
PAUSE
ECHO Backing up askSam files
E:
cd \asksam
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
move *.sav f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\ASKSAM\*.* H:\ASKSAM\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Inmagic files
E:
cd \inmagic
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\INMAGIC\*.* H:\INMAGIC\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up HTML files
E:
cd \html
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\HTML\*.* H:\HTML\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Family History System files
E:
cd \family
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\FAMILY\*.* H:\FAMILY\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Legacy files
e:
cd \Legacy
move *.bak f:\tempback
move *.tmp f:\tempback
cd \
XCOPY E:\Legacy\*.* H:\Legacy\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Orthodox mission book
g:
cd \ORTHMISS
cd \
XCOPY g:\ORTHMISS\*.* H:\ORTHMISS\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Neighbourhood Watch Inmagic files
g:
cd \NWATCH
cd \
XCOPY G:\NWATCH\*.* H:\NWATCH\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up "Steve's My Documents" folder
ECHO Moving backup files
g:
cd \stevedoc
move *.wbk f:\tempback
move *.bak F:\tempback
XCOPY G:\SteveDoc\*.* H:\STEVEDOC\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Batch files
c:
cd \BELFRY
xdel *.bak /s /n
xdel *.tmp /s /n
cd \
XCOPY C:\BELFRY\*.* H:\BELFRY\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Client files
XCOPY E:\CLIENT\*.* H:\CLIENT\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Missionalia abstracts
g:
cd \MISSABST
xdel *.bak /s /n
xdel *.tmp /s /n
xdel *.sav /s /n
cd \
XCOPY G:\MISSABST\*.* H:\MISSABST\ /E /Y
ECHO Backing up Text files
g:
cd \textfile
xdel *.bak /s /n
xdel *.tmp /s /n
xdel *.sav /s /n
cd \
XCOPY G:\textfile\*.* H:\Textfile\ /E /Y
ECHO Logging backup
H:
cd \
FU LOG g:\textfile\log\usage.log Backed up changed data files to DVD RW
FU LOG H:\BACKREC.TXT Backed up changed datafiles reset archive bit
DIR >> H:\BACKREC.TXT
ECHO Backup finished!
PAUSE
DIR
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Thanks, I will take a look into this and see what I can do with it.

I also just purchased a USB Scandsk 64GB card and will look at just
copying the files/folders to it. Trying to look at various options!
 
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Char Jackson

Why do you answer/reply to questions if all you have is problems with
the question - why not be mature and just ignore it and move on to
something you like - do you enjoy "blasting" people? I would never do
that - if I did not have an answer, I would move on to the next
message!
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From outward appearances, it looks like Dave-UK answered your
questions in detail and more than once, so I assume your response
above is your way of offering your sincere thanks for a job well done,
right? ;-)
 
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charliec

From outward appearances, it looks like Dave-UK answered your
questions in detail and more than once, so I assume your response
above is your way of offering your sincere thanks for a job well done,
right? ;-)
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In my reply, I indicated that I went to the suggested site and
followed the instructions down to Step 7 and then received a error
when applying the fix in Step 7. Did you not read that message?
 
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Char Jackson

In my reply, I indicated that I went to the suggested site and
followed the instructions down to Step 7 and then received a error
when applying the fix in Step 7. Did you not read that message?
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Did you not read any posts after that? It sounds like you simply gave
up at that point.

It's late and it's not my problem. Good luck.
 
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[email protected] said:
>On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:28:26 +0100, "Emrys Davies" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Dave Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:k5ucmp$bjf$[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 07:31:37 -0500, Andrew Rossmann wrote:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> I cannot seem to start the Backup program provided with Win7.
>>>> I go to Control Panel and click on "Backup up your Computer" and
>>>> nothing happens. What do I have to do to start the Win7 Backup
>>>> program?
>>>>
>>>> Also, another question, what is a good backup program for Win7? I have
>>>> tried TrueImage Backup and did not like it as it take too much control
>>>> of the system. I just want to backup my folders and files and be able
>>>> to restore files and folders as required. I don't do a lot of Images
>>>> backups.
>>>
>>> I use Ghost for a quarterly image backup (or before a major system
>>> change.) For weekly backups, I use Microsoft's SyncToy to copy important
>>> files and folders. Both of the backups are to an external drive that is
>>> normally powered OFF when not needed.
>>
>> If someone already has an imgage backup program,you can use that, but the
>> win7 backup program works well and is free.
>> I use a separate partition for all my data stuff and sync with WinMerge, a
>> free download. I do this to an external hd, but for day to day update I
>> also use a memory stick, again using WinMerge.
>
>I also use Windows7 Backup and Restore and it works perfectly. I also use
>it for backing up favorites and Windows Live Mail. Initially I tested it out
>by adding dummy programs which I deleted and I found that it restored them
>quite simply.

But how do I access Win7 Backup and Restore? I cannot get to it from
Control Panel - click on Backup & Restore and nothing happens?
Thanks
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I found this and it WORKED - the first time. I ran into the problem again and 'NADA'.
Quote: Originally Posted by FyrmnJ
Can you sayEXACTLYwhat you did in the registry to reset backup and restore?

FyrmnJ
Yes ,I can! Down is the text ,copy it to notepad ,save as Reset Backup.reg . Double click on it ,or merge ,and backup panel is as new.Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsBackup]
"ValidConfig"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsBackup\ScheduleParams]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsBackup\Security]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsBackup\Status]
 
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