Win7 Backup & Restore?

S

Stan Brown

I do not get this screen, what do I have to do to get it to come up. I
go to Control Panel and click on Backu and Restore and nothing
happens?
Congratulations! You made the mistake of installing Acronis
TrueImage, and it hijacked the Windows Backup so that "Backup and
Restore" won't even open. I have the same problem; I posted about it
a year or so ago.
 
C

Char Jackson

Congratulations! You made the mistake of installing Acronis
TrueImage, and it hijacked the Windows Backup so that "Backup and
Restore" won't even open. I have the same problem; I posted about it
a year or so ago.
I have Acronis TrueImage installed and Windows Backup still opens for
me. I haven't tried to actually use it, but its GUI at least opens.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Directly from Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=15155

It's free, but not officially supported. It's similar to commercial
software like ViceVersa. The first time or two you use it, it may seem
very slow as it needs to build some databases. After that, it goes
pretty fast.
The reason I don't use SyncToy is that it doesn't handle Daylight Saving
Time changes well, since I used it for synchronizing FAT32 camera memory
with an NTFS folder.

These days I use Allway Sync, allway.com. The user interface confuses
me, but once I get it going I like the results.
 
D

Dave-UK

Dave,
I followed the instructions and got to Item 7, but the fix would not
work and I received an error, something about not being able to apply
the fix.

Any thoughts?
It's difficult to say what the problem is without a meaningful error message.
What exactly were you doing to get an error message and what exactly was
the error message.
 
D

Dave-UK

Stan Brown said:
Congratulations! You made the mistake of installing Acronis
TrueImage, and it hijacked the Windows Backup so that "Backup and
Restore" won't even open. I have the same problem; I posted about it
a year or so ago.
Do you still have the problem or have you fixed it ?
 
S

Stan Brown

Do you still have the problem or have you fixed it ?
I still have the problem. I Googled and found a purported solution
for those who had uninstalled Acronis, but I haven't uninstalled
Acronis because then I wouldn't be able to read any of the backups
I've already made.
 
S

Stan Brown

It's difficult to say what the problem is without a meaningful error message.
What exactly were you doing to get an error message and what exactly was
the error message.
Amen! Why do people think they're making a useful trouble report
when they say "I got an error message something about [blah]" or even
"I got some error message"?
 
D

Dave-UK

Stan Brown said:
I still have the problem. I Googled and found a purported solution
for those who had uninstalled Acronis, but I haven't uninstalled
Acronis because then I wouldn't be able to read any of the backups
I've already made.
Acronis know all about this, there's a fix on here:
http://kb.acronis.com/content/14741
 
G

Gadfly

Since you don't want images, just standard backups, this is an excellent
free solution:
"The following excellent very user-friendly, free backup and imaging program
can restore to dissimilar hardware, which means that if the computer that
you created the backup on is stolen or rendered unusable, you can restore
the backup to a new computer that has different hardware components and
device drivers." -

EaseUS Todo Backup Free -

http://www.todo-backup.com/products/home/free-backup-software.htm

From:

Software: Backup Methods and Strategies: How to Make Restorable Backups,
System Images -

http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/Software-Backups.htm
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

It's difficult to say what the problem is without a meaningful error message.
What exactly were you doing to get an error message and what exactly was
the error message.
Amen! Why do people think they're making a useful trouble report
when they say "I got an error message something about [blah]" or even
"I got some error message"?
At least it's a step up from "It doesn't work".

Translation: I fully agree with you and charliec.
 
D

Dave-UK

But what if you have uninstalled Acronis. Would I have to reinstall
it to apply the fix to solve my Win7 Backup problem?
No, the reg file you downloaded should fix your Windows
backup function. You don't need to have Acronis installed.
 
P

Paul

But what if you have uninstalled Acronis. Would I have to reinstall
it to apply the fix to solve my Win7 Backup problem?
I thought that page was quite funny. A whole lot of text, telling
you how important it is to download their latest version. And
at the bottom of the page, is a tiny registry file.

http://kb.acronis.com/system/files/content/2010/09/14741/winintegrationfix.zip

What the registry file does, is it looks like it repairs a definition
of a CLSID. (A CLSID is part of a translation table, mapping a
long string of numbers to a program name, in the registry. It
allows a form of indirection in the registry design, such that
the CLSID can remain constant, while some other piece of software
comes along and changes the program bound to that CLSID. Kinda
like the damage you're suffering right now :) )

The ResourceDLL is a Unicode string, and it's been set
back to %SystemRoot%\System32\sdcpl.dll . That's the ASCII translation
of the numbers below. I think what that's doing, is putting the original
Windows value back in the registry. The "cpl" in the name,
probably stands for Control Panel.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B98A2BEA-7D42-4558-8BD1-832F41BAC6FD}\Instance\InitPropertyBag]
"ResourceID"=dword:00000014
"ResourceDLL"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,\
00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,\
73,00,64,00,63,00,70,00,6c,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,00,00

You can back up (export) that registry key as it is currently defined,
then merge in the new key, and repeat your experiment to get the
configuration going.

Paul
 
C

charliec

No, the reg file you downloaded should fix your Windows
backup function. You don't need to have Acronis installed.
So, I should download this "winintegrationfix.zip" file and run it and
that should resolve my problem?
 
C

charliec

But what if you have uninstalled Acronis. Would I have to reinstall
it to apply the fix to solve my Win7 Backup problem?
I thought that page was quite funny. A whole lot of text, telling
you how important it is to download their latest version. And
at the bottom of the page, is a tiny registry file.

http://kb.acronis.com/system/files/content/2010/09/14741/winintegrationfix.zip

What the registry file does, is it looks like it repairs a definition
of a CLSID. (A CLSID is part of a translation table, mapping a
long string of numbers to a program name, in the registry. It
allows a form of indirection in the registry design, such that
the CLSID can remain constant, while some other piece of software
comes along and changes the program bound to that CLSID. Kinda
like the damage you're suffering right now :) )

The ResourceDLL is a Unicode string, and it's been set
back to %SystemRoot%\System32\sdcpl.dll . That's the ASCII translation
of the numbers below. I think what that's doing, is putting the original
Windows value back in the registry. The "cpl" in the name,
probably stands for Control Panel.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B98A2BEA-7D42-4558-8BD1-832F41BAC6FD}\Instance\InitPropertyBag]
"ResourceID"=dword:00000014
"ResourceDLL"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,\
00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,\
73,00,64,00,63,00,70,00,6c,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,00,00

You can back up (export) that registry key as it is currently defined,
then merge in the new key, and repeat your experiment to get the
configuration going.

Paul
So your position is, I should run the fix in the provided link to
resolve my problem?
Thanks
 
P

Paul

03:39 -0700, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
Does this help?
http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/backup.png
I do not get this screen, what do I have to do to get it to come up. I
go to Control Panel and click on Backu and Restore and nothing
happens?
Congratulations! You made the mistake of installing Acronis
TrueImage, and it hijacked the Windows Backup so that "Backup and
Restore" won't even open. I have the same problem; I posted about it
a year or so ago.
Do you still have the problem or have you fixed it ?


I still have the problem. I Googled and found a purported solution
for those who had uninstalled Acronis, but I haven't uninstalled
Acronis because then I wouldn't be able to read any of the backups
I've already made.

Acronis know all about this, there's a fix on here:
http://kb.acronis.com/content/14741


But what if you have uninstalled Acronis. Would I have to reinstall
it to apply the fix to solve my Win7 Backup problem?
I thought that page was quite funny. A whole lot of text, telling
you how important it is to download their latest version. And
at the bottom of the page, is a tiny registry file.

http://kb.acronis.com/system/files/content/2010/09/14741/winintegrationfix.zip

What the registry file does, is it looks like it repairs a definition
of a CLSID. (A CLSID is part of a translation table, mapping a
long string of numbers to a program name, in the registry. It
allows a form of indirection in the registry design, such that
the CLSID can remain constant, while some other piece of software
comes along and changes the program bound to that CLSID. Kinda
like the damage you're suffering right now :) )

The ResourceDLL is a Unicode string, and it's been set
back to %SystemRoot%\System32\sdcpl.dll . That's the ASCII translation
of the numbers below. I think what that's doing, is putting the original
Windows value back in the registry. The "cpl" in the name,
probably stands for Control Panel.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B98A2BEA-7D42-4558-8BD1-832F41BAC6FD}\Instance\InitPropertyBag]
"ResourceID"=dword:00000014
"ResourceDLL"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,\
00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,\
73,00,64,00,63,00,70,00,6c,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,00,00

You can back up (export) that registry key as it is currently defined,
then merge in the new key, and repeat your experiment to get the
configuration going.

Paul
So your position is, I should run the fix in the provided link to
resolve my problem?
Thanks
What the fix seems to be doing, is putting back a value
that Windows likely had originally. %SystemRoot%\System32\sdcpl.dll
sounds like the value Microsoft was using.

You should try exporting that key first. You should end up with
another registry file, that looks similar to that one. That's in
case you want to undo the change. That's what I'd try first

Just for fun, you can try running

sdclt.exe /configure

and see if you get the backup panel that way. That's how
I get it to appear on my laptop.

Paul
 
K

KCB

03:39 -0700, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
Does this help?
http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/backup.png
I do not get this screen, what do I have to do to get it to come
up. I
go to Control Panel and click on Backu and Restore and nothing
happens?
Congratulations! You made the mistake of installing Acronis
TrueImage, and it hijacked the Windows Backup so that "Backup and
Restore" won't even open. I have the same problem; I posted about it
a year or so ago.
Do you still have the problem or have you fixed it ?


I still have the problem. I Googled and found a purported solution
for those who had uninstalled Acronis, but I haven't uninstalled
Acronis because then I wouldn't be able to read any of the backups
I've already made.

Acronis know all about this, there's a fix on here:
http://kb.acronis.com/content/14741



But what if you have uninstalled Acronis. Would I have to reinstall
it to apply the fix to solve my Win7 Backup problem?
I thought that page was quite funny. A whole lot of text, telling
you how important it is to download their latest version. And
at the bottom of the page, is a tiny registry file.

http://kb.acronis.com/system/files/content/2010/09/14741/winintegrationfix.zip

What the registry file does, is it looks like it repairs a definition
of a CLSID. (A CLSID is part of a translation table, mapping a
long string of numbers to a program name, in the registry. It
allows a form of indirection in the registry design, such that
the CLSID can remain constant, while some other piece of software
comes along and changes the program bound to that CLSID. Kinda
like the damage you're suffering right now :) )

The ResourceDLL is a Unicode string, and it's been set
back to %SystemRoot%\System32\sdcpl.dll . That's the ASCII translation
of the numbers below. I think what that's doing, is putting the original
Windows value back in the registry. The "cpl" in the name,
probably stands for Control Panel.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B98A2BEA-7D42-4558-8BD1-832F41BAC6FD}\Instance\InitPropertyBag]
"ResourceID"=dword:00000014

"ResourceDLL"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,\

00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,\
73,00,64,00,63,00,70,00,6c,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,00,00

You can back up (export) that registry key as it is currently defined,
then merge in the new key, and repeat your experiment to get the
configuration going.

Paul
So your position is, I should run the fix in the provided link to
resolve my problem?
Thanks
Yes, that will restore the original Registry Keys for Windows Backup, which
were changed by ATI, but not restored when ATI was uninstalled. You'll have
to unzip the file first, then you can double-click it or right-click it and
select 'Merge'.
 
D

Dave-UK

So, I should download this "winintegrationfix.zip" file and run it and
that should resolve my problem?
I haven't got a clue if it will resolve your problem.
Until you provide some pertinent error messages it will remain a mystery.
 
C

charliec

I haven't got a clue if it will resolve your problem.
Until you provide some pertinent error messages it will remain a mystery.
Ok, I tried the fixed provided via the link. It produced the
following error:

----------------------------------------
In the Registry Editor Window:

Cannot import
C:\users\charlie\appdata\local\temp\WZ873a\fix-w7backupkeys.reg
Not all data was successfully written to the registry. Some keys are
open by the system or other processes.
-----------------------------------------

Just to check, I booted to Safe Mode and tried the fix again, with the
same error produced.

Where do I go from here to fix the problem?

charliec
 

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