Win 7 cant find any devices on Network

[z]

Hi All,

I have just purchased a new computer:
i7, 8 GB Ram, with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. It has SP1 installed.
The Workgroup is the default WORKGROUP. The network is set to Home not
Public.

I have 2 devices on the network, a Boxee Box, and a Medion NAS. When
Windows searches for new devices it can't find either. My old XP
computer could see the Boxee Box without a problem.

Help please.

TIA

Nick.

 

[Paul]

Hi All,

I have just purchased a new computer:
i7, 8 GB Ram, with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. It has SP1 installed.
The Workgroup is the default WORKGROUP. The network is set to Home not
Public.

I have 2 devices on the network, a Boxee Box, and a Medion NAS. When
Windows searches for new devices it can't find either. My old XP
computer could see the Boxee Box without a problem.

Help please.

TIA

Nick.

Boxee has a forum. You might get lucky looking over here.

http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=21770&page=3

For the Medion NAS, is it a NAS or an NDAS ? Some external boxes require
each computer to have a "driver" installed (like an NDAS). A NAS, not so
much.

Sometimes, things like Firewall settings get in the way. But the Firewall
should be open to standard protocols.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_message_block
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play

Maybe you'll get the Boxee working first

Paul

 

[Menno Hershberger]

Hi All,

I have just purchased a new computer:
i7, 8 GB Ram, with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. It has SP1 installed.
The Workgroup is the default WORKGROUP. The network is set to Home not
Public.

I have 2 devices on the network, a Boxee Box, and a Medion NAS. When
Windows searches for new devices it can't find either. My old XP
computer could see the Boxee Box without a problem.

Finding new hardware has been going backwards with every version of
Windows. Windows 98 could find most *anything*.

 

[John Williamson]

Finding new hardware has been going backwards with every version of
Windows. Windows 98 could find most *anything*.

But needed a different driver for every device you plugged into it.

This Windows 7 machine mostly just sees the devices and gets on with
installing them.

The OP's problem with finding the network devices may be that the
devices don't support the Link Layer Discovery that was introduced with
Vista. If he can ping the devices, knowing their IP address, but not
find them, then that's probably the reason.

There is a known problem with setting up Boxee boxes with Homegroup
networks, especially with 64 bit systems, apparently aggravated by the
latest firmware update. The Medion NAS is probably running a Linux based
system, which may need updating. Check on the Medion website for a
firmware update.

 

[Philip Herlihy]

But needed a different driver for every device you plugged into it.

This Windows 7 machine mostly just sees the devices and gets on with
installing them.

The OP's problem with finding the network devices may be that the
devices don't support the Link Layer Discovery that was introduced with
Vista. If he can ping the devices, knowing their IP address, but not
find them, then that's probably the reason.

There is a known problem with setting up Boxee boxes with Homegroup
networks, especially with 64 bit systems, apparently aggravated by the
latest firmware update. The Medion NAS is probably running a Linux based
system, which may need updating. Check on the Medion website for a
firmware update.

As a workaround, I can recommend the Netscan port scanner, free from
Softperfect.com.

 

[z]

But needed a different driver for every device you plugged into it.

This Windows 7 machine mostly just sees the devices and gets on with
installing them.

The OP's problem with finding the network devices may be that the
devices don't support the Link Layer Discovery that was introduced with
Vista. If he can ping the devices, knowing their IP address, but not
find them, then that's probably the reason.

Thanks John. I can ping it. I haven't heard of Link Layer Discovery
before. I'm off to investigate.

There is a known problem with setting up Boxee boxes with Homegroup
networks, especially with 64 bit systems, apparently aggravated by the
latest firmware update. The Medion NAS is probably running a Linux based
system, which may need updating. Check on the Medion website for a
firmware update.

Since my last post I have realised that the Medion NAS is not working, I
am sending it back for a replacement.

 

[z]

As a workaround, I can recommend the Netscan port scanner, free from
Softperfect.com.

I just tried downloading the port scanner. AVG antivirus blocked it
because the zip file was infected with win32/heur.

Any other suggestions?

Nick.

 

[Char Jackson]

I just tried downloading the port scanner. AVG antivirus blocked it
because the zip file was infected with win32/heur.

Any other suggestions?

Just in case anyone suggests upgrading to a better AV package, I'd
like to proactively say I agree.

 

[Philip Herlihy]

Just in case anyone suggests upgrading to a better AV package, I'd
like to proactively say I agree.

Used netscan for years - it's fine.

 

[Rob]

Used netscan for years - it's fine.

Lots of tools like this trip AV engines up because they contain
similar code to that which genuine malware uses, and AV software
these days uses generic heuristic algorithms to try and prevent
not-yet-analysed malware/viruses from infecting our PCs.
When one is *certain* that a program is benign, it's just a matter
of telling the AV software to ignore it.
If uncertain, submit it to several online scanners for a full analysis
before running. In this case, VirusTotal says:
"This file was already analysed by VirusTotal on 2012-01-12 11:14:36.
Detection ratio: 0/42
You can take a look at the last analysis or analyse it again now."

HTH

 

[z]

Lots of tools like this trip AV engines up because they contain
similar code to that which genuine malware uses, and AV software
these days uses generic heuristic algorithms to try and prevent
not-yet-analysed malware/viruses from infecting our PCs.
When one is *certain* that a program is benign, it's just a matter
of telling the AV software to ignore it.
If uncertain, submit it to several online scanners for a full analysis
before running. In this case, VirusTotal says:
"This file was already analysed by VirusTotal on 2012-01-12 11:14:36.
Detection ratio: 0/42
You can take a look at the last analysis or analyse it again now."

HTH

Thanks Rob. That's good advice.
There is a VirusTotal Add-on for Firefox, I have just installed it.
I've decided the file is safe to use

Nick.