Will Microsoft ever change/improve the ugliness of WLM Tool Bar ?


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McLaren

Will Microsoft ever change / improve the ugliness of WLM Tool Bar ?
This is XXI century - and we are using still last century icons.
Mr Ballmer - it's time to do the job properly, just before
Windows 8 comes out.
...........
 
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VanguardLH

McLaren said:
Will Microsoft ever change / improve the ugliness of WLM Tool Bar ?
This is XXI century - and we are using still last century icons.
Mr Ballmer - it's time to do the job properly, just before
Windows 8 comes out.
..........
Then you'll really "love" the lowest-common-denominator GUI that Google
chose to use for their Gmail webmail client.
 
S

Seth

McLaren said:
Will Microsoft ever change / improve the ugliness of WLM Tool Bar ?
This is XXI century - and we are using still last century icons.
So, return WLM and get a refund. Oh wait...
Mr Ballmer - it's time to do the job properly, just before Windows 8 comes
out.
WLM, it's product cycle and release schedule have nothing to do with Windows
8.
 
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Bob Henson

McLaren said:
Will Microsoft ever change / improve the ugliness of WLM Tool Bar ?
This is XXI century - and we are using still last century icons.
Mr Ballmer - it's time to do the job properly, just before
Windows 8 comes out.
..........
Or, better still, do away with WLM altogether and save the rest of us the
agony of trying to read the tripe it produces.
 
U

Unicorn

Seth said:
So, return WLM and get a refund. Oh wait...


WLM, it's product cycle and release schedule have nothing to do with
Windows 8.
It's always a good time to clean the mess Ms left behind
in WLM, why not the do it before next Windows release....-;))))
 
U

Unicorn

VanguardLH said:
Then you'll really "love" the lowest-common-denominator GUI that Google
chose to use for their Gmail webmail client.
You aren't serious man...-;) Is that what we're going to get?
 
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John Smith

"Bob Henson" wrote in message
Will Microsoft ever change / improve the ugliness of WLM Tool Bar ?
This is XXI century - and we are using still last century icons.
Mr Ballmer - it's time to do the job properly, just before
Windows 8 comes out.
..........
: Or, better still, do away with WLM altogether and save the rest of us the
: agony of trying to read the tripe it produces. --
: Dolphins are smart - they train people to stand and throw them fish.
"do away with WLM altogether " and go for Mac ?
 
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Twayne

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McLaren said:
Will Microsoft ever change / improve the ugliness of WLM
Tool Bar ? This is XXI century - and we are using still
last century icons. Mr Ballmer - it's time to do the job
properly, just before Windows 8 comes out.
..........
It's not the toolbar that needs improvement; It's WLM itself. It's not even
half a tool with all the things missing from it, like quoting, top or bottom
post, special conditions to send an html mail with pics, etc. etc. etc..
 
T

Twayne

In
John Smith said:
"Bob Henson" wrote in message


"do away with WLM altogether " and go for Mac ?
Pretty poor reasoning to go to a Mac; just install any one of the several
good programs out there from Mozilla onward. You switch computers when you
get value for your dollar: that's a pretty expensive excuse there. Oh,
forgot; I'm talking to a Mackie usng the groups.
 
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Gordon

In

It's not the toolbar that needs improvement; It's WLM itself. It's not even
half a tool with all the things missing from it, like quoting, top or bottom
post, special conditions to send an html mail with pics, etc. etc. etc..
You can certainly tell it to put the reply on the top or the bottom -
the MAJOR problem with WLM as used for news groups is that there is NO
quoting at all......
 
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John Smith

"Twayne" wrote in message
In
McLaren said:
Will Microsoft ever change / improve the ugliness of WLM
Tool Bar ? This is XXI century - and we are using still
last century icons. Mr Ballmer - it's time to do the job
properly, just before Windows 8 comes out.
..........
: It's not the toolbar that needs improvement; It's WLM itself. It's not
even : half a tool with all the things missing from it, like quoting, top
or bottom : post, special conditions to send an html mail with pics, etc.
etc. etc..
I wonder how Microsoft justifies its incompetence.
Is there any explanation from Microsoft of this
disregards to its customers using WLM ?
 
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John Smith

"Gordon" wrote in message
In

It's not the toolbar that needs improvement; It's WLM itself. It's not
even
half a tool with all the things missing from it, like quoting, top or
bottom
post, special conditions to send an html mail with pics, etc. etc. etc..
: You can certainly tell it to put the reply on the top or the bottom - :
the MAJOR problem with WLM as used for news groups is that there is NO :
quoting at all....
:
Indeed...
In a normal circumstances - any business presenting this sort
of attitude towards the consumer - would be called to account
or would go to bankrupt - but Microsoft lives in a cocoon of
wealth created by PC enthusiasts.
 
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Bob Henson

John said:
"Twayne" wrote in message
In


I wonder how Microsoft justifies its incompetence.
Is there any explanation from Microsoft of this
disregards to its customers using WLM ?
The generally accepted theory is that it was deliberately "sabotaged" to
force users over to their new and much disliked "Forums" away from the
newsgroups that they abandoned.
 
G

Gordon

but Microsoft lives in a cocoon of
wealth created by PC enthusiasts.
Not really - it's just the result of being a virtual monopoly due to
certain "over zealous" business practices in the past.
REAL computer enthusiasts don't use Windows unless they are forced to.
The vast majority of Joe Public computer users just use what is in front
of them... ;-)
 
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John Smith

"Bob Henson" wrote in message

John said:
"Twayne" wrote in message
In


I wonder how Microsoft justifies its incompetence.
Is there any explanation from Microsoft of this
disregards to its customers using WLM ?
: The generally accepted theory is that it was deliberately "sabotaged" to
: force users over to their new and much disliked "Forums" away from the
<: newsgroups that they abandoned.
--
 
C

Char Jackson

"Bob Henson" wrote in message



<: newsgroups that they abandoned.
No one is under any obligation to use WLM. It's trivial to switch to
another email and/or news client. Money back for one of the many
programs bundled with your purchased OS? I seriously doubt it.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Char said:
No one is under any obligation to use WLM. It's trivial to switch to
another email and/or news client. Money back for one of the many
programs bundled with your purchased OS? I seriously doubt it.
Especially since WLM is not included with Windows and is only available
as a free utility. If it is bundled with the preinstalled OS, it is just
another piece of free crapware.
 
L

Leala

Exactly !!! Microsoft should be called to the task and returned money
for selling the product which is NOT doing the job it supposed to do.
Return money?
WLM is not part of Windows7.
Windows7 does not come with a mail/news reader.
WLM is part of Windows Live Essentials which is a free download from
Microsoft.
If you don't like it, simply remove it and use something else.
 
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Char Jackson

Especially since WLM is not included with Windows and is only available
as a free utility. If it is bundled with the preinstalled OS, it is just
another piece of free crapware.
Good points, thanks. Since it's a free download, (when not bundled by
an OEM), I suppose a person could expect exactly what they paid for it
if they don't like it, which is nothing. :)
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

Char Jackson said:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:58:38 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"


Good points, thanks. Since it's a free download, (when not bundled by
an OEM), I suppose a person could expect exactly what they paid for it
if they don't like it, which is nothing. :)
(Good point about OEMs bundling it.) Trouble is, it's not (initially)
the users who suffer from it, it's the rest of us (-:
 

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