Video of new Windows 8, iPad edition


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Todd

Hi All,

This link is to a demo of Windows 8. It looks an awful much
like the iPad. (I wonder if Apple will sue M$, again.)

Without commenting on whether on not the new iPad (tiles) interface
is a good thing or not, here is a video of what is in store for
us all in the near future:


-T
 
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Ed Cryer

Hi All,

This link is to a demo of Windows 8. It looks an awful much
like the iPad. (I wonder if Apple will sue M$, again.)

Without commenting on whether on not the new iPad (tiles) interface
is a good thing or not, here is a video of what is in store for
us all in the near future:


-T
Touch-screen interface belongs to iPad?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/explore/touch

Another thing; virtual keyboard? I was using that long before touch-screen.

What I'm wondering is whether MS will keep the mouse with Win8. And I
feel A1 convinced they will, because otherwise it would be a major
hardware upgrade with their new OS for the vast majority of current users.


Ed
 
P

Percival P. Cassidy

Touch-screen interface belongs to iPad?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/explore/touch

Another thing; virtual keyboard? I was using that long before touch-screen.

What I'm wondering is whether MS will keep the mouse with Win8. And I
feel A1 convinced they will, because otherwise it would be a major
hardware upgrade with their new OS for the vast majority of current users.
I don't see how they could dispense with the mouse until touch-screen
monitors become a lot more common. And even then I can't see doing any
kind of graphics work with a touch screen. Even if they add touch-screen
operation, they'd have to retain mouse operation as well.

As far as I could tell from the preview of the next version of Mac OS/X
(Lion, due next month, upgrade for $30), they are adding "gestures" that
can be performed on the touch pad but not eliminating the mouse.

Perce
 
D

Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Percival said:
I don't see how they could dispense with the mouse until touch-screen
monitors become a lot more common. And even then I can't see doing
any kind of graphics work with a touch screen. Even if they add
touch-screen operation, they'd have to retain mouse operation as
well.

As far as I could tell from the preview of the next version of Mac
OS/X (Lion, due next month, upgrade for $30), they are adding
"gestures" that can be performed on the touch pad but not eliminating
the mouse.
I really, really hope that touch screens remain optional forever. I
don't want my greasy paw prints on my monitor.
 
S

SC Tom

Dave "Crash" Dummy said:
I really, really hope that touch screens remain optional forever. I
don't want my greasy paw prints on my monitor.
--
Crash

"The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do."
~ B. F. Skinner ~
I agree wholeheartedly, aside from the fact that my eyes are so bad, I'd
have to get new glasses and put the monitor on my lap to use it. As my dad
used to say, "My eyes haven't grown worse, my arms have just grown shorter."
I find using a touchscreen to be very uncomfortable- I've never been able to
position myself just right to work on one for any length of time. And, as
Percival posted, I can't imaging trying to do CAD work on one.
 
E

Ed Cryer

I agree wholeheartedly, aside from the fact that my eyes are so bad, I'd
have to get new glasses and put the monitor on my lap to use it. As my
dad used to say, "My eyes haven't grown worse, my arms have just grown
shorter." I find using a touchscreen to be very uncomfortable- I've
never been able to position myself just right to work on one for any
length of time. And, as Percival posted, I can't imaging trying to do
CAD work on one.
They're ok for occasional things such as signing in at the surgery to
see your doctor, tourist maps in public squares etc.
I have an iPad too. It's fine to hold it either on your lap or in your
left hand, and then use your right forefinger.
But I'm like you with emails and browsing; mouse at an upright screen.

Ed
 
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Ken Blake

I agree wholeheartedly, aside from the fact that my eyes are so bad, I'd
have to get new glasses and put the monitor on my lap to use it. As my dad
used to say, "My eyes haven't grown worse, my arms have just grown shorter."
I find using a touchscreen to be very uncomfortable- I've never been able to
position myself just right to work on one for any length of time. And, as
Percival posted, I can't imaging trying to do CAD work on one.

I have very little experience with touch screens, so I'm not at all
sure I'm right. But I *think* a touch screen would be a good idea on a
laptop or tablet, but not on a desktop.
 
T

Todd

I have very little experience with touch screens, so I'm not at all
sure I'm right. But I *think* a touch screen would be a good idea on a
laptop or tablet, but not on a desktop.
If one thinks about how tiles are used on the iPhone or iPad, the
screen is always placed on a table or on one's lap -- never with one's
arms stretched horizontal. The M$ developers working on this should
be asked stand up and reach their arms out in the air in front of them
and see how long they can maintain that position. The ergonomics
of tiles on a workstation with a stand up monitor are atrocious.

A far as M$ ripping off others ideas (tiles and the iPad/iPhone):
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I am not sure how
many of you have had a chance to look at KDE4's desktop (one of
many Linux GUI's), Windows 7 looks eerily similar. I would not be
surprised if Apple did not find a way to sue M$ over Windows 8.

-T
 
C

choro

If one thinks about how tiles are used on the iPhone or iPad, the
screen is always placed on a table or on one's lap -- never with one's
arms stretched horizontal. The M$ developers working on this should
be asked stand up and reach their arms out in the air in front of them
and see how long they can maintain that position. The ergonomics
of tiles on a workstation with a stand up monitor are atrocious.

A far as M$ ripping off others ideas (tiles and the iPad/iPhone):
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I am not sure how
many of you have had a chance to look at KDE4's desktop (one of
many Linux GUI's), Windows 7 looks eerily similar. I would not be
surprised if Apple did not find a way to sue M$ over Windows 8.

-T
Touchscreen laptops and desktops? Are they joking? I sit about 30 inches
from my desktop monitor. My arms are only 24 inches long and I can't
extend them. May be next they will sell us expandable bionic arms with
vibrating fingers. The girls will love that but I am not sure about
computers and monitor screens!
-- choro --
 
K

Ken Blake

If one thinks about how tiles are used on the iPhone or iPad, the
screen is always placed on a table or on one's lap -- never with one's
arms stretched horizontal.

Yes, my point exactly--sorry if I didn't make that clear. That's why I
*think* that what I said was right.
 
B

Bob I

Touch-screen interface belongs to iPad?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/explore/touch

Another thing; virtual keyboard? I was using that long before touch-screen.

What I'm wondering is whether MS will keep the mouse with Win8. And I
feel A1 convinced they will, because otherwise it would be a major
hardware upgrade with their new OS for the vast majority of current users.


Ed
According to this statement, yes.

It’s going to run on laptops, it’s going to run on desktops, it’s going
to run on PCs with mouse and keyboard,” says Microsoft’s Jensen Harris
after demonstrating the Windows 8 interface in the company video below.
”It’s going to run on everything.”

Excerpted from:

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/windows-8-radical-change-windows-huge-gamble-microsoft
 
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Todd

Yes, my point exactly--sorry if I didn't make that clear. That's why I
*think* that what I said was right.
I was agreeing and expounding on what you said. I do believe I was
the one who did not make that clear.

-T
 
K

Ken Blake

I was agreeing and expounding on what you said. I do believe I was
the one who did not make that clear.

OK, then I'm sorry for misunderstanding you. And thanks for agreeing.
 
C

CHUCK TM

Hi All,
According to this statement, yes.

It’s going to run on laptops, it’s going to run on desktops, it’s going to
run on PCs with mouse and keyboard,” says Microsoft’s Jensen Harris after
demonstrating the Windows 8 interface in the company video below. ”It’s
going to run on everything.”

Excerpted from:

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/windows-8-radical-change-windows-huge-gamble-microsoft

i thought i should chime in here with a few points , for appliances , cnc
machines , touch screens
are fantastic . there here now on some things so this next generation
interface will become more
prevalent . WE will for the most part learn how to use it and when to
incorporate it into daily lives.

butt the next generation interface after this one , will be sonic or
laser position sensors that
can "see" hand gestures , read them use them. We will keep screwing around
with physical
stuff until cybernetic implant tech works safely and well . after that or
during that full processor
implants augmented memory , wireless interfaces . some humans will be
hybrid creatures ,
if they can can afford hardware upgrades.

ghost in the shell its not just a cartoon its a prediction.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

CHUCK said:
i thought i should chime in here with a few points , for appliances ,
cnc machines , touch screens
are fantastic . there here now on some things so this next generation
interface will become more
prevalent . WE will for the most part learn how to use it and when to
incorporate it into daily lives.

butt the next generation interface after this one , will be sonic or
laser position sensors that
can "see" hand gestures , read them use them. We will keep screwing
around with physical
stuff until cybernetic implant tech works safely and well . after that
or during that full processor
implants augmented memory , wireless interfaces . some humans will be
hybrid creatures ,
if they can can afford hardware upgrades.

ghost in the shell its not just a cartoon its a prediction.
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated.
 

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