Sudden departure of the Windows chief


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cameo

The latest news is that Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows and
Windows Live, is leaving Microsoft, effective immediately.
This is strange at this time when he should be basking in the promising
success of Windows 8 release. The immediate leave is especially strange
as such high level resignations are usually announced way ahead of
actual departure date. Something smells fishy here.
 
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..winston

http://seattletimes.com/text/2019670523.html


http://allthingsd.com/20121112/breaking-windows-head-steven-sinofsky-to-leave-microsoft/



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....winston
msft mvp


"cameo" wrote in message
The latest news is that Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows and
Windows Live, is leaving Microsoft, effective immediately.
This is strange at this time when he should be basking in the promising
success of Windows 8 release. The immediate leave is especially strange
as such high level resignations are usually announced way ahead of
actual departure date. Something smells fishy here.
 
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Paul

cameo said:
The latest news is that Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows and
Windows Live, is leaving Microsoft, effective immediately.
This is strange at this time when he should be basking in the promising
success of Windows 8 release. The immediate leave is especially strange
as such high level resignations are usually announced way ahead of
actual departure date. Something smells fishy here.
Now, maybe we'll get that Start menu back :)

Does anyone know Julie Larson-Green's tastes ? Does she like the
Start menu ? Does she like Ribbons ? Wait another three years and
maybe we'll find out.

See, she likes the Start button. You don't pose next to one
of these, unless you like it. We're saved! No more ClassicShell!
Windows 9 FTW!

http://media.komonews.com/images/0904120_Julie_Larson_Green.jpg

( http://www.komonews.com/news/microsoft/43273952.html )

Cameo, this story made my day. Finally, some real news...

I think Balmer had the weight advantage, and Sinofsky never had a chance.

If Sinofsky had been built like this, it might have been an even match.

http://thefilmreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jaws.jpg

Paul
 
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Bob Henson

The latest news is that Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows and
Windows Live, is leaving Microsoft, effective immediately.
This is strange at this time when he should be basking in the promising
success of Windows 8 release. The immediate leave is especially strange
as such high level resignations are usually announced way ahead of
actual departure date. Something smells fishy here.
I would guess that he went before he was pushed, over the disaster that
Windows 8 will be for Microsoft when they realise they have thrown away
all their enterprise business. They couldn't fire him without damaging
the launch any more than it already was damaged by the bad press, so
waited until now.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK www.galen.org.uk


A Smith and Wesson beats four aces.
 
S

Stephen Wolstenholme

The latest news is that Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows and
Windows Live, is leaving Microsoft, effective immediately.
This is strange at this time when he should be basking in the promising
success of Windows 8 release. The immediate leave is especially strange
as such high level resignations are usually announced way ahead of
actual departure date. Something smells fishy here.
Was he responsible for Windows Live? If so he should have got the
sack!

Steve
 
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Ed Cryer

Paul said:
Now, maybe we'll get that Start menu back :)

Does anyone know Julie Larson-Green's tastes ? Does she like the
Start menu ? Does she like Ribbons ? Wait another three years and
maybe we'll find out.

See, she likes the Start button. You don't pose next to one
of these, unless you like it. We're saved! No more ClassicShell!
Windows 9 FTW!

http://media.komonews.com/images/0904120_Julie_Larson_Green.jpg

( http://www.komonews.com/news/microsoft/43273952.html )

Cameo, this story made my day. Finally, some real news...

I think Balmer had the weight advantage, and Sinofsky never had a chance.

If Sinofsky had been built like this, it might have been an even match.

http://thefilmreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jaws.jpg

Paul
http://tinyurl.com/cuckpdt
Unless she can claim that she was cursing and swearing when she posed
for this shot I think we've got another Win8-promoter.

Ed
 
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Bob Henson

Was he responsible for Windows Live? If so he should have got the
sack!
A slightly later report I saw suggests he got a bit arsey with Steve
Ballmer and demanded that his position was made secure and/or more
permanent "or else". Ballmer called his bluff and it was "else". I still
think more heads will roll anyway when Windows 8 falls completely flat.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK www.galen.org.uk


If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything. — Mark Twain
 
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Ed Cryer

cameo said:
The latest news is that Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows and
Windows Live, is leaving Microsoft, effective immediately.
This is strange at this time when he should be basking in the promising
success of Windows 8 release. The immediate leave is especially strange
as such high level resignations are usually announced way ahead of
actual departure date. Something smells fishy here.
Sources inside Microsoft have given The Verge more details on Sinofsky's
departure. We're hearing that the executive shake-up wasn't based on any
issues with Windows 8 or the Surface launch, but personality clashes
within the ranks.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/12/3638118/steven-sinofsky-leaving-microsoft

"It is impossible to count the blessings I have received over my years
at Microsoft. I am humbled by the professionalism and generosity of
everyone I have had the good fortune to work with at this awesome company."
(Sinofsky)

Ed
 
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badgolferman

cameo said:
The latest news is that Steven Sinofsky, president of Windows and
Windows Live, is leaving Microsoft, effective immediately. This is
strange at this time when he should be basking in the promising
success of Windows 8 release. The immediate leave is especially
strange as such high level resignations are usually announced way
ahead of actual departure date. Something smells fishy here.
The fishy smell is from the new boss. She is much better looking
though.
 
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Gene Wirchenko

Yes. It struck me that way, too.
Now, maybe we'll get that Start menu back :)

Does anyone know Julie Larson-Green's tastes ? Does she like the
Start menu ? Does she like Ribbons ? Wait another three years and
maybe we'll find out.

See, she likes the Start button. You don't pose next to one
of these, unless you like it. We're saved! No more ClassicShell!
Windows 9 FTW!

http://media.komonews.com/images/0904120_Julie_Larson_Green.jpg

( http://www.komonews.com/news/microsoft/43273952.html )
And the story says she introduced ribbons. ('She was the one who
banished the familiar system of menus on Word, Excel and other
programs in favor of a new "ribbon" that shows different options at
different times, depending on what a user is working on. It seemed
risky, but it was grounded in mountains of data showing how people
used the software.')

I like the Start button. I detest ribbons. Six of one...

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
 
M

mechanic

And the story says she introduced ribbons. ('She was the one who
banished the familiar system of menus on Word, Excel and other
programs in favor of a new "ribbon" that shows different options
at different times, depending on what a user is working on. It
seemed risky, but it was grounded in mountains of data showing
how people used the software.')
So good for her.
 
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cameo

I would guess that he went before he was pushed, over the disaster that
Windows 8 will be for Microsoft when they realise they have thrown away
all their enterprise business. They couldn't fire him without damaging
the launch any more than it already was damaged by the bad press, so
waited until now.
This was one of the scenarios that crossed my mind, too.
 
C

cameo

A slightly later report I saw suggests he got a bit arsey with Steve
Ballmer and demanded that his position was made secure and/or more
permanent "or else". Ballmer called his bluff and it was "else". I still
think more heads will roll anyway when Windows 8 falls completely flat.
I think we might see the sudden departure of more Windows execs before
that. They would not want to be there when the roof collapses on them.
 
J

Joe from NY

"It is impossible to count the blessings I have received over my years
at Microsoft. I am humbled by the professionalism and generosity of
everyone I have had the good fortune to work with at this awesome company."
(Sinofsky)
Wise man, not to burn any bridges. Wonder what he'll have to say once he's
found his way to the other side of the river.
 
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cameo

Wise man, not to burn any bridges. Wonder what he'll have to say once he's
found his way to the other side of the river.
You mean after cashing in all his stock options from MS? I think he is
probably well taken care of for the rest of his life even without
getting a new executive job somewhere else.
 
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Paul

cameo said:
I think we might see the sudden departure of more Windows execs before
that. They would not want to be there when the roof collapses on them.
You're forgetting the company has a mountain of cash.

The execs would be dismissed for arbitrary reasons.

If enough employees were dismissed to reduce cash flow
worries, then more middle management and execs might be
turfed.

But with the amount of cash they've got, they could
"party like its 1999".

Apple has the same capability. A mountain of cash,
not wasted, suitable for prolonged product development.

In an emergency, bad executives squander such piles
of cash, doing "mergers and acquisitions". Some companies
have acquired the knack of doing those right. (Like Apple
acquiring its own processor designers, so they can do
their own ARM processors. Cisco is also good at that,
selecting relatively small companies to acquire.) It's
hard to say, if Microsoft started failing miserably, what
it might try to buy as a "life preserver" acquisition.

Microsoft nearly wasted a fortune on Yahoo, and look
how much they saved there. That would pay for a lot
of staff to sit around and play Solitaire.

What happens at Microsoft, will be both predictable and
unpredictable at the same time. The predictable part,
is mobile devices are a technology, where they're not #1.
They need to respond in some fashion. The business that
remains, if mobile devices stole all the fun, would
not be enough to sustain Microsoft in its current form.
The unpredictable part, is what ineffectual responses
the management will make. That's already started.

Paul
 
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Paul

cameo said:
You mean after cashing in all his stock options from MS? I think he is
probably well taken care of for the rest of his life even without
getting a new executive job somewhere else.
As a "driven individual", he'll try to find another job.

Or, do a startup.

He probably has enough assets to retire quite comfortably,
but people like that, don't retire quietly.

Paul
 
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