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Ken1943
Didn't realize you have a monthly limit. That certainly puts a crimp in
my suggestion.
KenW
my suggestion.
KenW
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Daniel47
Yeah!! I have thought that, on the odd occasion when I'm going to need aMellowed said:Well I guess that if you are saddled with a monthly limit, in your case,
updates would make sense.
greater monthly d/l limit than my current 3Gb, I could speak to my ISP
(yes, I know my ISP, Ross, personally, been to his house!) to upgrade my
account from its current 3Gb to 10Gb, maybe, just for one month, but
haven't done it yet! Probably only cost an extra $10-$20.
Daniel
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Daniel47
You weren't to know, Ken! See my reply, just now, to "Mellowed"!Ken1943 said:Didn't realize you have a monthly limit. That certainly puts a crimp in
my suggestion.
KenW
Daniel
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Paul
Does your public library allow downloading ?No, Ken, I'm not looking for an argument, just common sense. Cannot see
the sense in throwing away a perfectively good DVD, just so I can
download the same (if updated) stuff.
Why not just use the original DVD and then get the required updates?
Several Gb d/l (which would exceed monthly limit) verses maybe a Gb d/l
(which does not exceed monthly limit)!!
Daniel
Perhaps you can get your ISO9660 file that way. Take a USB flash stick
to the library, and download your DVD image while there. Sign out the PC
for an hour, ought to cover it (assumes library has a decent link). If the
library doesn't have good download rates, it might not be possible to
do it all in a one hour signout.
Our public libraries here, are like computer centers now. There's more
emphasis on computers, than traditional library resources. One branch here,
has 30 PCs in a separate room, and it's usually full. That's why you have to reserve
a session in advance.
Paul
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Bob H
Basically what you say is that repairs can't be done with a slipstreamed"Bob H" wrote in message
I downloaded sp1 for my win7 version and then integrated it with the
original copy, so that next time I have to do a repair or re install, I
have sp1 and updates installed at the same time.
Hi Bob,
That does provide some benefits.
That only gets you so much..
If you downloaded the full version Windows 7 SP1 iso and created the
Win7 SP1 install DVD then you can use that to reinstall Windows.
If you need to do a repair install you can use the created full version
Win7 SP1 installation DVD
If you integrated SP1 with your original Win7 RTM (slipstreamed) you can
use that to reinstall Windows. But.....
<qp>
- You cannot use a slipstream Windows 7 installation disc to do a repair
install with on a currently installed Windows 7 SP1.
You cannot use a slipstream Windows 7 installation disc to do a repair
install with on a currently installed slipstream Windows 7 SP1.
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sp1 etc. if I read that right.
P
Paul
There's a whole tutorial here, with suggested rules.Bob said:Basically what you say is that repairs can't be done with a slipstreamed
sp1 etc. if I read that right.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html
It's not quite the same thing, as a repair install of WinXP would be.
It has its own rules.
Paul
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...winston
No...the majority of respondents recommended downloading the full install version of Windows 7 SP1 (your version Home, Pro,
Ultimate) etc..for two primary reasons.
1. If you need to repair a current Win7 Sp1 install it can only be done with a full version Windows 7 SP1 DVD
2. If you need to reinstall Windows then using the full Win7 Sp1 DVD (since it includes SP1 updates) would be a lot quicker than
installing Windows 7 RTM and updating pre-Sp1 updates (some required for SP1) then installing SP1. Thereafter the balance (post Sp1
updates) would be the same...once complete if at a later point in time you need to repair SP1...see #1.
--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps
"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message
In the discussion here, when posters mentioned Win7 SP1, I was thinking
they meant a complete version of Win7 that included all the SP1 updates,
so a couple of Gb or more of download. But then, after reading more of
the replies here, I'm starting to think that they mean just the SP1
file, which would probably be smaller than going the "individual updates
from original Win7" route.
If this second way is what's meant, it would be more economical, except
that by doing the individual updates route, I can select which, if any,
of the monthly update files I want to download/apply, on a file by file
basis!
Daniel
Ultimate) etc..for two primary reasons.
1. If you need to repair a current Win7 Sp1 install it can only be done with a full version Windows 7 SP1 DVD
2. If you need to reinstall Windows then using the full Win7 Sp1 DVD (since it includes SP1 updates) would be a lot quicker than
installing Windows 7 RTM and updating pre-Sp1 updates (some required for SP1) then installing SP1. Thereafter the balance (post Sp1
updates) would be the same...once complete if at a later point in time you need to repair SP1...see #1.
--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps
"(e-mail address removed)" wrote in message
Wolf, what do you mean by "quicker to d/l the latest SP'ed version"??Wolf said:Well, I've not had to do this on W7, but with previous versions of
Windows it sure seemed quicker to d/l the latest SP'ed version and
install the few updates than clean install the original and then update.
Sure was easier, maybe that made it seem quicker. One clean install of
XP took about 30 minutes for the install, and over 2 hours for the
updates. Never again.
Granted, the total times may not differ much, but updates sure seem to
take longer. Especially if
they require restarts, which IME has always been the case when updating
an original install.
Anyhow, it's a good idea to have the latest *.iso handy, just in case.
YMMV. Have a good day.
In the discussion here, when posters mentioned Win7 SP1, I was thinking
they meant a complete version of Win7 that included all the SP1 updates,
so a couple of Gb or more of download. But then, after reading more of
the replies here, I'm starting to think that they mean just the SP1
file, which would probably be smaller than going the "individual updates
from original Win7" route.
If this second way is what's meant, it would be more economical, except
that by doing the individual updates route, I can select which, if any,
of the monthly update files I want to download/apply, on a file by file
basis!
Daniel
W
...winston
"Bob H" wrote in message
Yes, that is correct.Basically what you say is that repairs can't be done with a slipstreamed sp1 etc. if I read that right.
W
Wolf K
Search on "win 7 iso download", and you'll get a bunch of hits. Em firstWolf, what do you mean by "quicker to d/l the latest SP'ed version"??
hit is a list of clcvkable links to currently available versions
(several languages, too):
http://www.w7forums.com/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads-t12325.html
Even on my slow DSL, it takes less than two hours, or about the time toIn the discussion here, when posters mentioned Win7 SP1, I was thinking
they meant a complete version of Win7 that included all the SP1 updates,
so a couple of Gb or more of download. But then, after reading more of
the replies here, I'm starting to think that they mean just the SP1
file, which would probably be smaller than going the "individual updates
from original Win7" route.
assist with making and having supper. ;-). Which I am about to do, while
the -64 Home Premium downloads. (See, I do sometimes take my own advice.
;-))
True, if that's important to you. IME, it's best to install all theIf this second way is what's meant, it would be more economical, except
that by doing the individual updates route, I can select which, if any,
of the monthly update files I want to download/apply, on a file by file
basis!
Daniel
important updates, almost all of which relate to security and
performance bugs.
Have a good day,
C
Char Jackson
Cool, your ISP has a name! (Ross)Yeah!! I have thought that, on the odd occasion when I'm going to need a
greater monthly d/l limit than my current 3Gb, I could speak to my ISP
(yes, I know my ISP, Ross, personally, been to his house!) to upgrade my
account from its current 3Gb to 10Gb, maybe, just for one month, but
haven't done it yet! Probably only cost an extra $10-$20.
Some of my customers live in small towns and get their Internet access via a
very small wireless distribution system, sometimes from an access point
located in the church steeple or on top of the town's water tower. In one
case it's on the roof of the bank building. (Yes, there's only one bank in
town.) Your description made me think of them.
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Daniel47
Wolf K wrote:
see why I need these, and other un-needed, updates.
Thanks for reply, and hope you enjoyed your supper!
Daniel
Don't have MSIE on board and computer is not used as a server, so cannotTrue, if that's important to you. IME, it's best to install all the
important updates, almost all of which relate to security and
performance bugs.
Have a good day,
see why I need these, and other un-needed, updates.
Thanks for reply, and hope you enjoyed your supper!
Daniel
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Daniel47
Char, the reason I mentioned that I actually knew my ISP was that whenChar said:Cool, your ISP has a name! (Ross)
Some of my customers live in small towns and get their Internet access via a
very small wireless distribution system, sometimes from an access point
located in the church steeple or on top of the town's water tower. In one
case it's on the roof of the bank building. (Yes, there's only one bank in
town.) Your description made me think of them.
I've mentioned it before, some here-abouts have doubted it.
In one of the other groups I read regularly, one of the posters has said
that he acts as a hub for several of his neighbours, who connect via
Wi-Fi to his computer/server which is then connected to the world via cable.
Daniel
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Daniel47
Hadn't thought about doing it that way, Paul!! About the only time I'vePaul said:Does your public library allow downloading ?
Perhaps you can get your ISO9660 file that way. Take a USB flash stick
to the library, and download your DVD image while there. Sign out the PC
for an hour, ought to cover it (assumes library has a decent link). If the
library doesn't have good download rates, it might not be possible to
do it all in a one hour signout.
Our public libraries here, are like computer centers now. There's more
emphasis on computers, than traditional library resources. One branch here,
has 30 PCs in a separate room, and it's usually full. That's why you
have to reserve
a session in advance.
Paul
used the computers at the library is when I've been doing some Family
history ..... the Library had easier connection into the state
governments Births, Deaths and Marriages registrations.
Daniel
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