Recent Windows 7 Upgrades


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Ellwood P. Farquad

A week or so ago when I was shutting down the PC, Windows downloaded
and installed I think it was 16 upgrades.

Since then, the Welcome screen comes on, disappears, then comes on
a second time. That I can handle.

But now, when I'm going down a list, opening each item on the list, instead
of changing color to red as each is opened, so I needn't have to memorize
where I am on the list, the color of each item on the list stays black.

This is not an "upgrade" as far as I am concerned. Is there a setting I can
use
to toggle this feature back on, the one they've removed, that flagged the
items
on a list I've already referenced?

TIA
 
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...winston

Windows 7 doesn't download any updates when shutting down...the files were downloaded and installed or ready for installation.
Shutting down only initiates the final process of updating what was installed and/or holding what needs to be installed upon a
restart prior to Windows resuming control to load your welcome screen/desktop.

Without knowing what 'list' you are referring to its nearly impossible to determine if Windows Update or something else is the
fault of your problem.


--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps


"Ellwood P. Farquad" wrote in message

A week or so ago when I was shutting down the PC, Windows downloaded
and installed I think it was 16 upgrades.

Since then, the Welcome screen comes on, disappears, then comes on
a second time. That I can handle.

But now, when I'm going down a list, opening each item on the list, instead
of changing color to red as each is opened, so I needn't have to memorize
where I am on the list, the color of each item on the list stays black.

This is not an "upgrade" as far as I am concerned. Is there a setting I can
use
to toggle this feature back on, the one they've removed, that flagged the
items
on a list I've already referenced?

TIA
 
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s|b

A week or so ago
Probably April 9, Patch Tuesday.
when I was shutting down the PC, Windows downloaded
and installed I think it was 16 upgrades.
AFAIK there were 7 updates for Windows 7 and one was to be avoided:
KB2823324. If you have installed this one, make sure you uninstall. I'm
not sure if this update is causing your problem...
 
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Ellwood P. Farquad

I didn't mean to cause trouble. Define "list"? Okay, just off the top of my
head,
take newspapers, recipes, medical info etc. Using Windows 7 Internet
Explorer, go to
USA Newspapers. (www.usnpl.com) The page displays all the states. Pick
Illinois.
Up comes a huge "LIST"of cities. Pick Chicago. Up comes a huge "LIST" of
that
city's newspapers.

Select one, and as you do the name turns to red from black, and you go to
that site.

In the past, when you returned to the "LIST", the name stayed red. Now it
doesn't.

Or go to AllegroMedical.com. Select Personal Care.You'll see 10
Sub-Categories,
ten Brands, 4 conditions, each of which has further lower levels, such as
134 for
Back Pain.

As you select and look at each of these, the same thing happens, turns red
when
selected, but instead of staying red as it used to when you return to that
page,
it goes back to black, and when you're looking at a high number of "LIST"
entries,
it just helps to have Windows flag for you the ones you've already seen.

Hey, if this NEVER happened before, and I just thought of it, I'M RICH!!!

Fat chance. So................ why did it change???? How do I get that
function back?

TIA



"...winston" wrote in message
Windows 7 doesn't download any updates when shutting down...the files were
downloaded and installed or ready for installation.
Shutting down only initiates the final process of updating what was
installed and/or holding what needs to be installed upon a
restart prior to Windows resuming control to load your welcome
screen/desktop.

Without knowing what 'list' you are referring to its nearly impossible to
determine if Windows Update or something else is the
fault of your problem.


--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps


"Ellwood P. Farquad" wrote in message


A week or so ago when I was shutting down the PC, Windows downloaded
and installed I think it was 16 upgrades.

Since then, the Welcome screen comes on, disappears, then comes on
a second time. That I can handle.

But now, when I'm going down a list, opening each item on the list, instead
of changing color to red as each is opened, so I needn't have to memorize
where I am on the list, the color of each item on the list stays black.

This is not an "upgrade" as far as I am concerned. Is there a setting I can
use
to toggle this feature back on, the one they've removed, that flagged the
items
on a list I've already referenced?

TIA
 
S

s|b

ALWAYS turn off, block, deny ALL "automatic" upgrades of everything
except maybe AV defs and prog.
Leave well enough alone.
M$ has enough bugs etc in the crap they sell/provide and more often
than not their so-called critical updates creates more damage than "fixes".
If a full service pack is KNOWN to be worthwile, then buy and use that.
YOU keep FULL control!
Your spreading FUD. In all my years of experience with Windows only once
have things gone wrong. There was this one update that caused a loss of
Internet connection IF and only if you had ZoneAlarm installed. In the
end, M$ was *not* to blame; it was ZoneLabs (creator of ZoneAlarm) that
was to blame and they even admitted it.

Last Patch Tuesday it seemed that KB2823324 was causing problems. Mostly
in Brazil and Kaspersky antivirus seemed to have something to do with it
as well. I installed KB2823324 (on W7 HP x64 SP1) and did *not*
experience problems. Nevertheless, M$ advises everybody (with W7) to
uninstall KB2823324: <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2839011>

For those who are unable to boot their computer after installing
KB2823324 M$ has provided an ISO:
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=38435>

That being said: since the ZoneAlarm update I always make sure that I
have a backup image before installing Windows Updates...
 
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s|b

This is not an "upgrade" as far as I am concerned. Is there a setting I can
use
to toggle this feature back on, the one they've removed, that flagged the
items
on a list I've already referenced?

TIA
One Microsoft Windows Live Mail luser to another and the whole thing
becomes unreadable... Please install a decent newsreader or at least try
WLM QuoteFix: <http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/>

THANK YOU... both!
 
R

Robert Baer

Alias said:
Please define what you mean by "list" and what program you're using that
has said list.
ALWAYS turn off, block, deny ALL "automatic" upgrades of everything
except maybe AV defs and prog.
Leave well enough alone.
M$ has enough bugs etc in the crap they sell/provide and more often
than not their so-called critical updates creates more damage than "fixes".
If a full service pack is KNOWN to be worthwile, then buy and use that.
YOU keep FULL control!
 
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Gene E. Bloch

One Microsoft Windows Live Mail luser to another and the whole thing
becomes unreadable... Please install a decent newsreader or at least try
WLM QuoteFix: <http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/>

THANK YOU... both!
Although it does look like the OP is having a problem with Internet
Explorer. However, he seems unwilling to provide us with enough
information to enable us to guess what's wrong.

....winston has been asked frequently to use a more useful newsreader,
and has made it clear that he prefers his current scheme.
 
B

Bob I

Might I suggest looking in "Internet Explorer", Tools, Internet
Properties, General Tab, Colors. Change as you see fit.
 
W

...winston

Here's a recap if having trouble reading this thread.
1. OP posted about a possible problem after Windows Update with a
'list'. Type, location of 'the list' and software which it was occurring
was not provided.
2. Two requests to provide more information on the 'list'
- what it is and/or where occurring
3. A few unrelated comments about the benefits of configuring automatic
updates for installed software and a two completely inconsequential
references to KB2823324
4. OP finally clarified list was occurring when visiting web sites with
Windows 7 and Internet Explorer (IE version not provided)
5. Recommendation to check the Appearance Color settings IE uses for
rendering content when visiting a web site. (Possibly related if
previous colors were reset with an IE Update (cumulative or browser
version update)
 
J

Johnny

Here's a recap if having trouble reading this thread.
1. OP posted about a possible problem after Windows Update with a
'list'. Type, location of 'the list' and software which it was occurring
was not provided.
2. Two requests to provide more information on the 'list'
- what it is and/or where occurring
3. A few unrelated comments about the benefits of configuring automatic
updates for installed software and a two completely inconsequential
references to KB2823324
4. OP finally clarified list was occurring when visiting web sites with
Windows 7 and Internet Explorer (IE version not provided)
5. Recommendation to check the Appearance Color settings IE uses for
rendering content when visiting a web site. (Possibly related if
previous colors were reset with an IE Update (cumulative or browser
version update)
I never use IE, but it didn't take long to find what he wants it to do.

Click on Tools, that is the little gear at the top right of the page.

Click on Internet Options.

Under the General tab Click on Accessibility.

Check the boxes labeled: Ignore Page Colors, Ignore Page Font Size,
Ignore Page Font Style.

Then the visited links will show up in any color you choose.
 
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s|b

...winston has been asked frequently to use a more useful newsreader,
and has made it clear that he prefers his current scheme.
He doesn't need to quit WLM, he can install WLM QuoteFix to fix the
problem. If he is unwilling to, not a problem, I'll create a kill
filter.
 
W

...winston

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ....winston has been asked frequently to use a more useful newsreader,
and has made it clear that he prefers his current scheme.
Actually my latest reply (apparently after being afflicted with a short term stroke of altruism) to s|b was in SeaMonkey (figured
it might aid the 'unreadability' he encountered).

But more importantly the OP has a few suggestions (some good, a few not even remotely related) provided by the group regardless of
the newsreader in use by anyone including the op.
 
M

mick

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...winston has been asked frequently to use a more useful newsreader,
and has made it clear that he prefers his current scheme.

Actually my latest reply (apparently after being afflicted with a short term
stroke of altruism) to s|b was in SeaMonkey (figured it might aid the
'unreadability' he encountered).
Winston, the unreadability comes from any newsreader that does not use
quote marks properly to indicate the text of the previous message you
are replying to.

It would not matter what monkey you were using to reply to s|b as you
did not quote any previous text but simply wrote a new message as a
reply.

Anyone who uses a newsreader that does not quote previous text in a
logical manner gets ignored here as I cannot be bothered to decipher
what the poster is trying to reply to. Its a shame really because it
sometimes spoils what can be an interesting thread, not only does the
poster of such diatribe waste their time on me but I suspect on many
others also.

Not wanting to conform to the normal etiquette of using proper quoting
just smacks of pure laziness IMO, Microsoft was guilty of it, but you
do not have to follow suit :)
 
W

...winston

mick said:
Winston, the unreadability comes from any newsreader that does not use
quote marks properly to indicate the text of the previous message you
are replying to.

It would not matter what monkey you were using to reply to s|b as you
did not quote any previous text but simply wrote a new message as a reply.

Anyone who uses a newsreader that does not quote previous text in a
logical manner gets ignored here as I cannot be bothered to decipher
what the poster is trying to reply to. Its a shame really because it
sometimes spoils what can be an interesting thread, not only does the
poster of such diatribe waste their time on me but I suspect on many
others also.

Not wanting to conform to the normal etiquette of using proper quoting
just smacks of pure laziness IMO, Microsoft was guilty of it, but you do
not have to follow suit :)
In this response the client would make a difference since it would be
necessary to retain the prior point (yours). In the previous quote
capable newsreader generated reply it did not since it was not even
remotely related to the op's original thread (digression and off-topic,
directed solely at one single person in said ot-digression especially
since it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the gist and
purpose of that reply.

I support and moderate newsgroups on a private nntp server (and my
primary nntp usage) where html, inline graphics, attachments and much
larger post size is permitted with over 6000 users accessing those
groups on any email client with nary a single concern about what does
and doesn't quote.

You are correct. MSFT doesn't conform to nntp netiquette and hasn't
provided an option (quoting amongst many others) to do so for at least 5
yrs.

If I weight the benefits of 6000 elsewhere vs. the 50-100 (vs. multiples
of the latter number in the past) that now show up in this forum it's
really an easy decision on what serves best as a primary nntp client
rather than flipping between or fully adopting a different client.

I do appreciate and welcome any opinion and/or criticism (I read every
single post and without difficulty deciphering anything)

I'm always ok with someone ignoring my posts regardless of the news
client I happen to be using at a given point in time.

Lazy ? Actually, imo, a better value-added decision for where my skills
are primarily provided. That may change in the future, but probably not
today or tomorrow.
 
S

Steve Hayes

He doesn't need to quit WLM, he can install WLM QuoteFix to fix the
problem. If he is unwilling to, not a problem, I'll create a kill
filter.
Please tell more.

Will it also fix the Trademark-Euro problem?
 
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Ellwood P. Farquad

Yep, I would have thought that would be the fix, uncheck the "Use Windows
colors" box, then select black for "unvisited" and choose red for "visited".
Unfortunately, the "Apply" box isn't active and clicking on "OK" changes
nothing in later IE use.

But I appreciate the tip anyway. I'll just keep searching.

"Bob I" wrote in message
Might I suggest looking in "Internet Explorer", Tools, Internet
Properties, General Tab, Colors. Change as you see fit.
 
S

s|b

Please tell more.
WLM QuoteFix
Will it also fix the Trademark-Euro problem?
I have no idea what this will do with the euro * symbol. Forté Agent can
be set up to use charset=ISO-8859-15 for the euro symbol.

¤


* Are you German? (Only Germans write "euro" with a capital letter.)
 
B

Bob I

Could it be that just certain places(web sites) that this is occurring?
For me "Yahoo Finance" does not honor the "visited color" but "Google
search" does.
 
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