No Win7 drivers for mobo

[scbs29]

The "VanguardH" is a friggen moron.
His knowledge consist of what he googled 10 minutes ago.

He's a weak usenet bully...you piqued his interest because the word "Linux"
appeared in your post.

Thanls for the reply.
I will remember that in the future.

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[philo]

However, after I questioned him on it, he decided that he had an Asrock
instead of an ASUS mobo.

I missed that but assumed it to be ASRock since ASUS makes no such board.

Since it only supports 2gigs of RAM there would be no sense in even
trying to load Win7 on it.

 

[VanguardLH]

Since you seem to have trouble reading I'll quote the OP for you:

Oops, Sorry.
Should have said mobo is ASUS P4VM890.
Found drivers for printer, grapics card.
Checking now for soundcard (SoundBlaster Audigy) drivers.
Only other thing is a Conextant CX2388x Video Capture card.

Oh, I see, you didn't reply to his post that mentioned his hardware.
Instead you replied to his original post. You jumped to a different
subthread when you replied. Silly me for assuming you followed the
subthread.

Also, for some reason, his reply to himself ran afoul of my filters. It
got flagged as Ignored (which means the whole subthread gets flagged as
Ignored) and my default view is to hide ignored posts since, well, if
they are ignored then I really should do so.

Your bad and my bad conspired together in me not seeing the info. Now I
have to figure why his reply to himself triggered which rule.

 

[Darklight]

Thanls for the reply.
I will remember that in the future.

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Registered Linux User 490858

From my experience win7 will install it's own drivers for a old motherboard.
Example an asus m2nsli-deluxe I a winxp MB. I have driver dvd but don't need
it. As abovewin 7 installs all it needs

 

[VanguardLH]

Ah, I see why his reply got flagged: the Path has Altopia's node in it
(alt.net) and I don't trust any posts from there because Altopia lets
its users modify the injection point (the source node). While Altopia
says that such users are supposed to prepend "alt.net!" to the domain
the user claims is the injection node, they don't enforce it or even use
a script to check on submission that the poster complied. Altopia and
others that permit modifying the injection node allow posters to lie
about the source of a post. If Altopia wants to assist liars then I
don't want to see their posts.

Note that because posters can append their own injection node that you
will never know if what is before the "alt.net!" in the Path header is
valid or not. Could be that portion is true from the point of
submission onward in hops through other servers. Could be the poster
appended that string to mislead from where his post was injected. You
won't know. Altopia allows the modification. Altopia doesn't do any
enforcement check.

I don't trust anything that goes through Altopia. They lie because they
let their posters lie.

First post by scbs29:
Path: news.albasani.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews!core-easynews-01!easynews.com!en-nntp-02.am2.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail

Starts at easynews, go up though Highwinds backbone, and comes down
through blueworldhosting and then to albasani. So easynews peers with
Highwinds.

Second post by scbs29:
Path: news.albasani.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder02.blueworldhosting.com!news.alt.net!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews!core-easynews-01!easynews.com!en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail

Starts at easynews but this time peers with Altopia instead of
Highwinds. Or it just looks that way since the poster could append the
easynews portion after "alt.net!". With Altopia permitting injection
ode modification, you won't know for sure.

I probably won't delete my filter until Altopia decides to stop letting
their posters lie about the injection node. I've ran across too many
posters pretending what is their injection node because of how Altopia
allows them to pretend.

 

[VanguardLH]

All I wanted to know was generally what difference does it make if
theere are no mobo drivers insalled ? No more, no less.

Some hardware funcationality losses due to "no mobo drivers":
- No Ethernet support (no networking).
- No wifi support if it's onboard.
- No onboard audio support.
- Possible video problems, like only low resolution, if it's onboard.

It's been a long time since motherboards came nude of any ancilliary
hardware, like audio, video, NIC, modem, etc. It's all that onboard
stuff for which you need the drivers. They provide the interface
between OS and hardware. Without the interface you don't get to access
the hardware.

<snipped the fake signature proselytizing Linux>
Forte Agent, according to its users, does NOT insert the sigdash line
(dash, dash, newline). You have to add "--\n" (\n = newline) to your
signature. That's why I noted the fake signature: the assemblance of a
signature but missing the delimiter line.

 

[Paul]

I missed that but assumed it to be ASRock since ASUS makes no such board.

Since it only supports 2gigs of RAM there would be no sense in even
trying to load Win7 on it.

I've been running a Windows 7 VM with less than that, and it was fine.
Seemed snappy and responsive with only 1GB loaded. But that's with no
cruft added to it. This has hibernate disabled. Indexing turned off.
Aero probably isn't working (because of the standard of video emulation).
That makes it more like WinXP.

http://imageshack.us/a/img30/322/al0.gif

This is from my laptop. Sitting idle. It's a single core laptop,
and the cruft on board is using 25% CPU when doing nothing. This
is the situation you'd want to avoid. So in real usage, then
Windows 7 isn't going to be as much fun. Because every tool you
own, assumes the machine is "powerful" and can take the abuse.

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/6517/3lh.gif

I don't expect a 2GB machine will look much worse than the second picture.
An S478 motherboard and CPU, would be about as powerful as my laptop.

Paul

 

[VanguardLH]

Thanls for the reply.
I will remember that in the future.

remove fred before emailing
Registered Linux User 490858

Had to do with him inserting a fake signature (which I explained in a
different subthread). Plus his signature, as with the vast majority of
them, is ego-stroking fluff that is almost always off-topic to the
thread hence it is spam. He wanted to stroke himself in public
regarding his choice of OS and yet, gee, when I point at him stroking in
public it must surely be my fault he's stroking.

He doesn't know how to configure signatures in Forte Agent to include a
proper sigdash line. Or he knows about it and deliberately chooses NOT
to include the sigdash line because he knows many NNTP clients have an
option to strip/hide/dim signatures and he wants to ensure everyone sees
him stroking.

 

[Chris S.]

From my experience win7 will install it's own drivers for a old
motherboard.
Example an asus m2nsli-deluxe I a winxp MB. I have driver dvd but don't
need
it. As abovewin 7 installs all it needs

At last! The true and simple answer!

Chris

 

[scbs29]

snip
Had to do with him inserting a fake signature (which I explained in a
different subthread). Plus his signature, as with the vast majority of
them, is ego-stroking fluff that is almost always off-topic to the
thread hence it is spam. He wanted to stroke himself in public
regarding his choice of OS and yet, gee, when I point at him stroking in
public it must surely be my fault he's stroking.

He doesn't know how to configure signatures in Forte Agent to include a
proper sigdash line. Or he knows about it and deliberately chooses NOT
to include the sigdash line because he knows many NNTP clients have an
option to strip/hide/dim signatures and he wants to ensure everyone sees
him stroking.

what a t*sser you are.
replies to you end now, you are not worth it.

--\n
remove fred before emailing
Registered Linux User 490858

 

[Paladin]

Had to do with him inserting a fake signature (which I explained in a
different subthread). Plus his signature, as with the vast majority of
them, is ego-stroking fluff that is almost always off-topic to the
thread hence it is spam. He wanted to stroke himself in public
regarding his choice of OS and yet, gee, when I point at him stroking in
public it must surely be my fault he's stroking.

Signatures aren't required to be on-topic.
They are signatures, up to the user.
Could be a web address,link,quote,etc.
Go back to net-nanny school.

He doesn't know how to configure signatures in Forte Agent to include a
proper sigdash line. Or he knows about it and deliberately chooses NOT
to include the sigdash line because he knows many NNTP clients have an
option to strip/hide/dim signatures and he wants to ensure everyone sees
him stroking.

I'm sure he does it deliberately to piss you off.
Good for him.

 

[Paladin]

SNIP


what a t*sser you are.
replies to you end now, you are not worth it.

--\n
remove fred before emailing
Registered Linux User 490858

I'm not familiar with your reader, but you need a <space> between the --
and the /n.

 

[Paladin]

SNIP

I'm not familiar with your reader, but you need a <space> between the --
and the /n.

correction ^ \n

 

[philo]

ptifies his hardware, like also back in:

I've been running a Windows 7 VM with less than that, and it was fine.
Seemed snappy and responsive with only 1GB loaded. But that's with no
cruft added to it. This has hibernate disabled. Indexing turned off.
Aero probably isn't working (because of the standard of video emulation).
That makes it more like WinXP.

http://imageshack.us/a/img30/322/al0.gif

This is from my laptop. Sitting idle. It's a single core laptop,
and the cruft on board is using 25% CPU when doing nothing. This
is the situation you'd want to avoid. So in real usage, then
Windows 7 isn't going to be as much fun. Because every tool you
own, assumes the machine is "powerful" and can take the abuse.

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/6517/3lh.gif

I don't expect a 2GB machine will look much worse than the second picture.
An S478 motherboard and CPU, would be about as powerful as my laptop.

Paul

Sure, if properly tweaked Win7 will run with 2 gigs of RAM...
but that coupled to the fact that all H/W may not be supported by Win7
makes the whole thing look like a risky idea.

I'd just keep running XP until it's time for a hardware upgrade.

 

[Wolf K]

On 2013-09-08 5:09 AM, scbs29 wrote[...]

All I wanted to know was generally what difference does it make if
theere are no mobo drivers insalled ? No more, no less.

[...]

AFAIK, "mobo drovers" don't exist. The OS will run, more or less well,
depending on the hardware's specs (e.g., bus speeds, clock rates, etc),
BIOS, and any onboard firmware.

What you actually need (usually) are drivers for
add-ins/add-ons/peripherals. That includes e.g. the video subsystem
(cards/chipsets), which may run at less than best resolution/frame
rates/etc if the generic drivers that come with all OSs are the only
ones available. They are the ones the system uses during install, which
is why you see 640x480 or 800x600 resolution until the video subsystem
drivers are installed.

IOW, if you have old hardware attached to your system, you may not find
drivers for it. There are ways of using old drivers inside new OSs, but
that's a separate issue, and AFAIK, the solutions are both hardware and
software specific.

HTH

 

[charlie]

AFAIK, "mobo drovers" don't exist.

Actually, they do, sort of.
The various chip sets and so forth often have "drivers"
included in either windows, or the MBD OEM CD/DVD(s).
It's often true that the windows "drivers" function at a
reduced or "compatability" level.
Occasionally, the differences between the driver versions
do cause some problems.
An example I ran into has to do with AMD support chips and SATA.
Seems that you must revert to the windows drivers to update
SSD firmware on several Mfrs SSD drives.
Another one was a conflict between Realtek MBD sound drivers, MS windows
sound drivers, and AMD video card HDMI sound drivers.
AMD finally solved most of the problems by making changes to the
Video card drivers.