No sound with WinXP Location 65535


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Bob H

The 260 is a pretty basic stereo device. But it also happens
to have S/PDIF. If the hardware is not connected to anything, then
the INF file should be preventing them from being an option. If the sound
is redirected to the S/PDIF ports, then that would be reasonably consistent
with your symptoms (sound goes off to no-where).

http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=27&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=39


In the installer folder, I see "RTHDCPL.exe" and I expect that is
the control panel for the RealTek audio. You might see that running
in Task Manager, while the RealTek control panel is running.

The INF files in those installers are pretty big, and I can't
see any obvious pattern to that one (i.e. how the file knows
which sections of the INF to apply).

I wish I knew of a utility that could "map the plumbing" and
indicate what is connected logically. That would help identify
where the sound samples are going when you play something.

The dxdiag.exe utility knows some things about multimedia, but
I don't know if it can help identify what is up with the audio.

I thought it was WinAMP, which had the ability to play output to
more than one destination. Perhaps WinAMP has a list of destinations
and can identify all the ways your sound samples could "get lost" ?

Paul
The Realtek Audio Control Manager does sit in the quick view? part of
the toolbar, and when I right click on it I get the Realtek panel or
window up.

I have just found that by clicking the Tool button in the DIGITAL
section that brings up another window/panel with S/PDIF in/Out Settings.
These are Output Sampling Rate and Output Source.

Now on the Output Source there are 2 check buttons:
No S/PDIF output
Output digital audio source.

The 2nd button is checked and when I hover the mouse arrow over that
actual button it says The Digital Output Format (such as wave, MP3 etc)
will come out through SPDIF-Out.

In WinAmp | Preferences|Plugins| Output, I changed the output to
Nullsoft Wave Output out_wav.dll and then clicked configure to choose
either Realtek HD Output or Microsoft Sound Mapper. I tried both
actually, but no sound,
Then I selected Nullsoft DirectSound Output out_ds.dll, and again chose
either the Realtek HD device or Primary Sound Driver. Still no sound
either from speakers or headphones.

I would like to know exactly what Location 65535 is, but googling it
doesn't give me the information I want.
And like you if I knew where the actual sound was going to, 'map the
plumbing' as you say.

Thanks
 
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Paul

Bob said:
The Realtek Audio Control Manager does sit in the quick view? part of
the toolbar, and when I right click on it I get the Realtek panel or
window up.

I have just found that by clicking the Tool button in the DIGITAL
section that brings up another window/panel with S/PDIF in/Out Settings.
These are Output Sampling Rate and Output Source.

Now on the Output Source there are 2 check buttons:
No S/PDIF output
Output digital audio source.

The 2nd button is checked and when I hover the mouse arrow over that
actual button it says The Digital Output Format (such as wave, MP3 etc)
will come out through SPDIF-Out.

In WinAmp | Preferences|Plugins| Output, I changed the output to
Nullsoft Wave Output out_wav.dll and then clicked configure to choose
either Realtek HD Output or Microsoft Sound Mapper. I tried both
actually, but no sound,
Then I selected Nullsoft DirectSound Output out_ds.dll, and again chose
either the Realtek HD device or Primary Sound Driver. Still no sound
either from speakers or headphones.

I would like to know exactly what Location 65535 is, but googling it
doesn't give me the information I want.
And like you if I knew where the actual sound was going to, 'map the
plumbing' as you say.

Thanks
Well, WinAmp was my last hope. As it's the only application I know of
right off hand, that makes better usage of the sound facilities.

Most applications make use of the system mixer (kmixer?) and with that,
the "sound comes out of the device you select in the control panel". That's
rather limiting, if say, something kmixer-related is broken.

WinAmp shows the true capability. If the programmer spends the time to
write the appropriate linkage, it's possible to drive more than one
output, at the same time.

And along the same lines, WinAmp should also be able to show a list of
devices (analog or digital) that samples could flow out of.

About the only other way I know of, to bypass kmixer (if it's broken),
is with ASIO. But this has nothing to do with your situation right now.
There is an ASIO4ALL driver, for adding ASIO to non-ASIO sound devices,
but it's still missing the flexibility of the WinAmp style of solution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output

Since I don't know of any other "plumbing related" programs than that,
I've run out of ammunition :) WinAmp is about as close as you're going
to get, if some intermediate plumbing is broken.

Paul
 
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Bob H

Well, WinAmp was my last hope. As it's the only application I know of
right off hand, that makes better usage of the sound facilities.

Most applications make use of the system mixer (kmixer?) and with that,
the "sound comes out of the device you select in the control panel". That's
rather limiting, if say, something kmixer-related is broken.

WinAmp shows the true capability. If the programmer spends the time to
write the appropriate linkage, it's possible to drive more than one
output, at the same time.

And along the same lines, WinAmp should also be able to show a list of
devices (analog or digital) that samples could flow out of.

About the only other way I know of, to bypass kmixer (if it's broken),
is with ASIO. But this has nothing to do with your situation right now.
There is an ASIO4ALL driver, for adding ASIO to non-ASIO sound devices,
but it's still missing the flexibility of the WinAmp style of solution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output

Since I don't know of any other "plumbing related" programs than that,
I've run out of ammunition :) WinAmp is about as close as you're going
to get, if some intermediate plumbing is broken.

Paul
I installed ASIO on the laptop and pressed the 'Generate a signal'
button but no sound came out.

Thanks for your help.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Bob H
Now on the Output Source there are 2 check buttons:
No S/PDIF output
Output digital audio source.

The 2nd button is checked and when I hover the mouse arrow over that
actual button it says The Digital Output Format (such as wave, MP3 etc)
will come out through SPDIF-Out.
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Can you select the first button (no S/PDIF output)? From what Paul's
saying, having the second one selected will kill the analogue audio.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]ews.com>, Bob H
Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones,
I didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.
You have physical outputs for both speakers and headphones?
The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
Speaker or Headphones
I think that affects how the sound is shaped, to come out via the same
socket. (In other words I think the other socket is the [microphone]
INput.
 
B

Bob H

In message <[email protected]>, Bob H
Looking down both barrels of line out for speakers and for headphones,
I didn't see any led's as both back ends looked silvery in colour.
You have physical outputs for both speakers and headphones?
The Realtek Audio Manager is very limited on what can be changed , and
the only thing that can be changed is the selection of either 2CH
Speaker or Headphones
I think that affects how the sound is shaped, to come out via the same
socket. (In other words I think the other socket is the [microphone] INput.
After selecting the 1st option : no S/PDIF output, it did not make any
difference, still no sound.
Yes there are 2 outputs: 1 for headphones and the other for external
speakers.
 
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Use Long Path Tool, Long Path Tool can simplify and probably end your problems in unlocking, managing and renaming files that appear to have a long filename.
 
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Well, after trying 3 different USB tools to get a linux iso bootable on
my 2gb usb stick, I finally managed to make a ubuntu bootable image.

Just for information, win7 usb tool complained the iso was no a proper iso.
ISO to USB tool complained the path was too long:
E:\Downloads\Temp\Ubuntu.8.10.iso

The tool which did the job was Unetbootin-windows.

So after the bootable iso was created on the USB stick, I then plugged
into the sony laptop, and restarted it to get into the BIOS.
There was no option/no listing to select boot to USB, only HD, Floppy
and Optical Drive.

So after all that, I'm back to where I was.

Thanks for the prompt anyway about using a USB stick.
Hi bob,
i just try Long Path Tool it worked for me
 

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